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  • bigboydan
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-10-05
    • 55420

    #1
    Giants will honor bonds if he breaks ruth's record
    i agree baseball is about records, but this is too tainted to celebrate. MLB should step in and prevent this one.

    SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. (AP) - The San Francisco Giants will celebrate appropriately if Barry Bonds passes Babe Ruth on the career home run list.

    Team owner Peter Magowan and executive vice president Larry Baer vowed Tuesday to honor the organization's star player while also reiterating their commitment to cooperate with the commissioner's office on any investigation into Bonds' alleged steroids use.

    Magowan and Baer arrived in Arizona one week after the release of excerpts from an upcoming book revealing Bonds' purported longtime schedule for taking performance-enhancing drugs.

    ``I recognize this is a serious matter,'' Magowan said, standing in the dugout before the Giants hosted the Texas Rangers. ``It is still a legal proceeding, that's all I can say. ... I can't comment on any of this. It's the position we've taken for two years now.''

    The Giants brass is brainstorming exactly what to do if Bonds ties Ruth for second place on career list with 714 homers, and then how to honor him if he passes the Babe. Bonds begins the season with 708 home runs.

    ``It's certainly not going to go unnoticed or uncommemorated,'' Baer said. ``He's our player and it would be a tremendous accomplishment. We don't have a hold on what we're going to do. It won't be silence.''

    This has been a spring of further off-field distractions for Bonds, who was in the lineup as the designated hitter against the Rangers. Bonds played left field for the first time Sunday against San Diego and homered for the first time in only his fourth spring training at-bat.

    ``Game of Shadows,'' written by two San Francisco Chronicle reporters, is due out later this month, while another book on Bonds - ``Love Me, Hate Me: Barry Bonds and the Making of an Antihero'' - written by Jeff Pearlman is set for release in late May.

    Magowan insists he would sign Bonds again. The 13-time All-Star has been with San Francisco since 1993 after spending his first seven big league seasons in Pittsburgh.

    ``Winning ballplayer,'' Magowan said. ``He's helped us win.''

    Baer has been communicating more frequently with commissioner Bud Selig and his staff. Baseball didn't ban steroids until after the 2002 season.

    ``Obviously this is a story that has a fascination to it,'' Baer said of everything about Bonds' pursuit. ``The commissioner has a review and we're working in lock step with him.''

    Last August, Magowan said he had mixed feelings about the Giants' decision to give up the right to void 2006, the final year of Bonds' contract - though he originally defended the move. At that point, Bonds hadn't played all year following three operations on his right knee since Jan. 31. He eventually returned for 14 games in September.

    The seven-time NL MVP turns 42 in July, so the Giants know his time could come any day if he steps wrong and injures his tender knee.

    ``I think, from all that I've seen and from that all that I've heard, he's going to do fine,'' Magowan said. ``You never know. He could trudge out to left field at any point and his career could be over. He certainly seems to be able to still hit a baseball. He says he's not in pain. He hasn't done the really tough stuff yet. I'm sure that will happen within the next three weeks.''

    Bonds said he will need to push his body soon to gauge his true health.

    The Giants have already sold about 2.5 million tickets, nearly the same number as last season at this time. Magowan isn't concerned about a fallout from the steroids reports, saying: ``I'm pretty confident. I think we know our fans pretty well and the fans like Barry and they show up to see him perform. I suspect they will again.''

    Bonds' off-the-field issues are something the Giants have been dealing with for several years now.

    ``We've been through this sort of stuff a lot in the past. I admit it was not as much as it is right now,'' Magowan said. ``The more he can play the better. I don't know what that number is. I think it has to be more than 14.''
  • Illusion
    Restricted User
    • 08-09-05
    • 25166

    #2
    Let him have it. Everybody knows it's watered down so it won't mean much.
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    • imgv94
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-16-05
      • 17192

      #3
      Since its more obvious than ever he was a extreme steroids user, his possible
      record breaking will be lowgraded.
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      • onlooker
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 08-10-05
        • 36572

        #4
        Hell. I say let them celebrate it. He did put his health on the line for all of this.
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        • Alamorich
          SBR MVP
          • 12-28-05
          • 1475

          #5
          Bonds is the star of my team and I would expect him to be honored. In the end it doesn't really matter cause baseball fans that care about the records know his record is tainted.
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          • bigboydan
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 08-10-05
            • 55420

            #6
            i just hate to see ruth's record be broke by a cheater like bonds.

            btw... looker, Ruth put his health on the line too when he drank like a fish during proabition era.
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            • bigboydan
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-10-05
              • 55420

              #7
              Bonds hits 710th home run
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              • Illusion
                Restricted User
                • 08-09-05
                • 25166

                #8
                Both homers have been hit to the opposite feild. Barry can't pull the ball.
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                • tacomax
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-10-05
                  • 9619

                  #9
                  Originally posted by bigboydan
                  Bonds hits 710th home run
                  :0000045:
                  Originally posted by pags11
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                  Originally posted by curious
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                  • The Great One
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 02-08-06
                    • 792

                    #10
                    He was better than Ruth when he was in college.

                    Guarantee when barry is 65 years old, he will be in better health than Ruth was in his prime. You know when he drank everyday and still acted like he was an athlete.

                    What is all of this crap where people act like steroids will kill you. What, because the media portrays this. because we have 2 or 3 bad cases in the last 30 years. Reminds me of listening to Mike Greenburg this morning dissing steroids. All of this coming from a guy thats never even been in a gym his entire life but yet he is some kind of "expert" with the side effects.

                    Give me a break. Most people have absolutely zero clue about anything. Gee, whats more healthy, having a clean diet, training, and taking steroids, or drinking beer 4 or 5 days a week and eating fast food every other meal? Answer that.
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                    • isetcap
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-16-05
                      • 4006

                      #11
                      LOL.

                      Yeah, Barry is going to break Fatass Ruth's record and they won't celebrate in San Francisco. That notion might win the Skip Bayless Award.
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                      • BuddyBear
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-10-05
                        • 7233

                        #12
                        Originally posted by The Great One
                        He was better than Ruth when he was in college.

                        Guarantee when barry is 65 years old, he will be in better health than Ruth was in his prime. You know when he drank everyday and still acted like he was an athlete.

                        What is all of this crap where people act like steroids will kill you. What, because the media portrays this. because we have 2 or 3 bad cases in the last 30 years. Reminds me of listening to Mike Greenburg this morning dissing steroids. All of this coming from a guy thats never even been in a gym his entire life but yet he is some kind of "expert" with the side effects.

                        Give me a break. Most people have absolutely zero clue about anything. Gee, whats more healthy, having a clean diet, training, and taking steroids, or drinking beer 4 or 5 days a week and eating fast food every other meal? Answer that.
                        He'll be in better health than Ruth b/c of advancements in medical technology, diets, and workout routines. You arguments seem very weak and illogical at best as to why steroids are no big deal. It's well documented in the research literature that taking steroids is detrimental to an individual's physical well-being. I would expect Bonds to live till about 80 or so....there are certain characteristics that would lead you to think that since he is in tremendous shape and he is very well off financially (two predicotors of long life expectancy)...conversely, he is male and African-American which are two predictors of decreased life expectancy.
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                        • The Great One
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 02-08-06
                          • 792

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BuddyBear
                          He'll be in better health than Ruth b/c of advancements in medical technology, diets, and workout routines. You arguments seem very weak and illogical at best as to why steroids are no big deal. It's well documented in the research literature that taking steroids is detrimental to an individual's physical well-being. I would expect Bonds to live till about 80 or so....there are certain characteristics that would lead you to think that since he is in tremendous shape and he is very well off financially (two predicotors of long life expectancy)...conversely, he is male and African-American which are two predictors of decreased life expectancy.

                          I didn't know I was making an argument here. Or was that just your chance to take a shot at me since you don't like me. It's far from an argument . i was just stating the truth.

                          What is this literature you are referring to? Wouldn't actual people that have taken them and lived long and healthy lives be better example?

                          Like I said, what's healthier. Some one who trains, eats right, and does 3 cycles a year at decent doses or someone who drinks 5 nights a weekand eats fast food all the time? Id you want to act like it's an argument. there you go. answer that question.

                          I'm a proponent of letting pro athletes take whatever they want. If I was a professional athlete, I'd take them in a second. Youare doing a physical task that not many can do. If used right, steroids do not cause any short or long term health condiitions. It is far healthier on your liver and kidneys to take 500mg. a week of testosterone enanthate than it is to drink and stgay out all night.
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                          • jbbulldawg2003@hotmail.co
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 03-30-06
                            • 56

                            #14
                            Originally posted by The Great One
                            He was better than Ruth when he was in college.

                            Guarantee when barry is 65 years old, he will be in better health than Ruth was in his prime. You know when he drank everyday and still acted like he was an athlete.

                            What is all of this crap where people act like steroids will kill you. What, because the media portrays this. because we have 2 or 3 bad cases in the last 30 years. Reminds me of listening to Mike Greenburg this morning dissing steroids. All of this coming from a guy thats never even been in a gym his entire life but yet he is some kind of "expert" with the side effects.

                            Give me a break. Most people have absolutely zero clue about anything. Gee, whats more healthy, having a clean diet, training, and taking steroids, or drinking beer 4 or 5 days a week and eating fast food every other meal? Answer that.
                            I agree with you 100% on this one. Instead of the media trying to control people and say how bad it is, the emphasis should be placed on the patients that dont have as much access to the steroids that is needed as medicine because of athletes getting these drugs illegally.
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                            • bigboydan
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 08-10-05
                              • 55420

                              #15
                              Bonds hits 711th home run


                              when he breaks Ruth's record it's gonna be a travisty!
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                              • tacomax
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 08-10-05
                                • 9619

                                #16
                                Originally posted by bigboydan
                                Bonds hits 711th home run


                                Came on to pinch hit in the bottom of the 9th and tied the game with a 2 run homer. Is there anything that this guy can't do?
                                Originally posted by pags11
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                                Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
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                                • imgv94
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-16-05
                                  • 17192

                                  #17
                                  Steroids aren't as bad for you as most people think.
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                                  • tacomax
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 08-10-05
                                    • 9619

                                    #18
                                    Mods, we've got a problem I think.

                                    It looks like The Great One has hacked into imgv94's account.
                                    Originally posted by pags11
                                    SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                    Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                    I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                    Originally posted by curious
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                                    • imgv94
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 11-16-05
                                      • 17192

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by tacomax
                                      Mods, we've got a problem I think.

                                      It looks like The Great One has hacked into imgv94's account.
                                      Didn't you watch that video on here regarding steroids?

                                      Not one person has ever died from steroids use. It
                                      was shown on Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel.
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                                      • isetcap
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-16-05
                                        • 4006

                                        #20
                                        Certain "steroids" are much worse than others especially when evaluating dosages in comparison to body mass. The real truth of the matter is that BB has always been "accused" of taking an HGH cocktail in a very carefully and scientifically administered method. This is why the supposed "tests" have never been able to provide evidence of foulplay. Scientific data has not been provided that shows major side effects to taking a carefully controlled dosage of HGH. Scientific evidence HAS been provided that shows there are multiple health benefits to an HGH supplemented diet.
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                                        • bigboydan
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 08-10-05
                                          • 55420

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by imgv94
                                          Steroids aren't as bad for you as most people think.

                                          Lyle Alzado would disagree with that statement IMG.
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                                          • The Great One
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 02-08-06
                                            • 792

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by bigboydan
                                            Lyle Alzado would disagree with that statement IMG.

                                            Thats what I'm talking about. This is prime example of how America thinks. Do you drink Dan? Do you drink alot? I bet I could give more alcoholics and people with liver failure that might agree that alcohol is a killer. Probably alot more than you could get that say steroids kill. And I'm talking people that have actually used them, but some politican that's never been to a gym in his life.

                                            You get a couple bad examples in 20 or 30 years, all of a sudden they are bad.

                                            If used in reasonable doses, they can be very benficial. Actually, Dan at your age, 250 **. of testosterone a week would benefit you.

                                            When I'm older, i plan on taking HGH as long as my health is right. If you do research and understand and have a brain, they are beneficial. If you are ignorant about it, sure bad things can happen. HGH is only bad for you if everything is not functionng correctly because it will escalate whatever illness you have. Do some research on it, you might find it the perfect anti-aging drug.

                                            Some of you will bitch about the government with it anti-gambling propoganda based on the fact that they don't know what they are talking about, but something like this comes up and you want to do the same thing the ogovernemnt does on gambling. Just assume it's bad without knowing facts.

                                            But there are far more fatalities related to cigarettes and alcohol than there are for steroids. That point is not even open for debate. Just a fact.
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                                            • The Great One
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 02-08-06
                                              • 792

                                              #23
                                              And by the way, steroids are only illeagal because they work.

                                              Any drug that works is either illeagal or by prescription only,.. If it doesn't work, the FDA will market it like crazy and these huge compmnaies will do the same. There are a ton of bodybuilding supplemets that are all garbage, yet they are legal because they don't work and give pofits to people like Joe Weider.
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                                              • imgv94
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 11-16-05
                                                • 17192

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by bigboydan
                                                Lyle Alzado would disagree with that statement IMG.
                                                That video mentions that Lyle Alzado in fact died from
                                                something else. Not Steroids.
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                                                • isetcap
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-16-05
                                                  • 4006

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by imgv94
                                                  That video mentions that Lyle Alzado in fact died from
                                                  something else. Not Steroids.
                                                  Similar to how nobody dies from AIDS, they just die from the pneumonia their body couldn't fight off because the AIDS virus had completely depleted their immune system.
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                                                  • The Great One
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 02-08-06
                                                    • 792

                                                    #26
                                                    Like I said, you'll alwayus be able to name a few names as bad examples, but overall, REASONABLE steroid usage is alot healthier than drinking and smoking everyday. Guarantee lung cancer kills more Americans than steroid usage.
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