Who do you feel worse for? Joyce or Galarraga?

Regul8er · 06-03-10, 09:44 AM

Joyce no question. Galarraga knows he threw a perfect game. Joyce will have this on his conscious for the rest of his life.

The most disturbing piece of the pie here is that Galarraga's el perfecto is and will be forever overshadowed by the missed call.

mister bee · 06-03-10, 09:44 AM

i definitely feel worse for joyce. galarraga will move on with his career and be known as the guy who pitched the 28-out perfect game, while joyce will be booed mercilessly every game this year.

Rixsaw · 06-03-10, 09:59 AM

Galarraga of course. He was robbed. Joyce did the right thing and apologize. Joyce won't remember what happened a week from now.

Jiggy Fly · 06-03-10, 10:00 AM

Galarraga no doubt. It is Joyce's job to call the game. He didn't do his job!!!!

Grind-It-Out · 06-03-10, 10:02 AM

Feel much worse for Joyce. Galarraga will get plenty of recognition for this even though it wasn't a perfect game. Joyce will have trouble sleeping.

Chugs · 06-03-10, 10:05 AM

Are you guys kidding me! I dont feel bad for Joyce at all. Galarraga was ROBBED of a perfect game because of that jackass. He should have to feel miserable for the rest of his life. The guy ****ing paniced like a kid calling his first game. Ive umpire since i was 13 years old and last year was my 10th year. Any umpire i know will tell you that giving that situation with a bang bang call at first, hes OUT! End of story, Safe is not an option in that situation on that kind of play. But instead this guy tried to be the prick that defies everyone else and gets the call "right".

ElmDiggity · 06-03-10, 10:27 AM

I think this is the type of situation that could push a man to the brink of suicide. I am pretty sure Joyce umpires again today, anyone know for sure? I guarantee he did not sleep at all last night. After hearing Jim Joyce speak to the public, I have become a Joyce-backer and a fan of his sweet handlebar mustache. I think I will grow one in his honor since fans might tear him to shreds at today's game...

Gopi-1 · 06-03-10, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by ElmDiggity

I think this is the type of situation that could push a man to the brink of suicide. I am pretty sure Joyce umpires again today, anyone know for sure? I guarantee he did not sleep at all last night. After hearing Jim Joyce speak to the public, I have become a Joyce-backer and a fan of his sweet handlebar mustache. I think I will grow one in his honor since fans might tear him to shreds at today's game...

It will be Jim Joyce's turn to man the plate for today's game, but I wouldn't even be surprised if he requested to be taken out and replaced by someone else. Did he got out of Comerica Field in one piece last night?

tbonmusikman · 06-03-10, 10:37 AM

Galarraga easily...ten years from now no one is going to remember Joyces name...or Galarraga's name if they don't in some insane way reverse the call...however it's good when you can't remember an umpire's name.

szk1983 · 06-03-10, 10:38 AM

Galaragga. Joyce screwed up, galaragga didn't

JGetz · 06-03-10, 11:15 AM

Detroit Detroit Detroit

I haven't even looked at the line yet...don't care to. Fans are fired up, Players are fired up. This is a MUST win.

Pick: Detroit (whatever the price is)

Bondite · 06-03-10, 11:20 AM

ABSOLUTELY it has to be Galaragga. He might never be that close again to being in the history books. The sad thing is, Joyce attempted an out call and changed it to safe. That was absolutely pathetic and I am almost tired of hearing how much people feel bad for him. He had one job in the entire game to make the right call on a somewhat close play, galaragga had to get 28 straight major league hitters out. Not only was Armando the best player on the field last night, he was also the classiest. Dont know if many other pitchers in the bigs let that go with just a grin and an interview like he had after the game. Sad day in baseball....

DennisGreen · 06-03-10, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Rixsaw

Joyce won't remember what happened a week from now.

LOL are you kidding me? This will haunt him for the rest of his career and he will be known only for this blown call. That's a hell of a weight to carry on your conscience.

pinnerpsk · 06-03-10, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by Rixsaw

Galarraga of course. He was robbed. Joyce did the right thing and apologize. Joyce won't remember what happened a week from now.

You've got to be kidding? This is the most blown comment in the history of SBR. This rivals Joyce's blown call.

FR3SH like UgHH · 06-03-10, 11:26 AM

joyce.

Rixsaw · 06-03-10, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by DennisGreen

LOL are you kidding me? This will haunt him for the rest of his career and he will be known only for this blown call. That's a hell of a weight to carry on your conscience.

Of all the mistakes we have made in our lives, you think this would be a mistake that one would have on his conscience? Please!!! Imagine if the call result in us losing a big bet, we would be calling him an A-HOLE....

baazigar · 06-03-10, 11:29 AM

joyce - galaragga and the entire world knows he throw a perfect game

galaragga said himself he knows and he will show his kids

bigsmitty · 06-03-10, 11:44 AM

At first I thought Joyce because of how he will carry it, etc. Now I think Galaragga because I think Joyce must have had some personal vendetta against him to make a call like that. Likely the team will use it as a motivator going forward. Cheers

Brian891 · 06-03-10, 12:27 PM

It looks like MLB is reviewing and will probly give him perfect game, which he pitched anyway amd deserves to go in record books for. Tigers did not protest. I feel much worse for joyce. I dont think joyce had vendetta. Have u seen his reaction? Umps are usually unremorseful a holes. He personally apologized and actually admitted his mistake, which is rare. I just dont understand how the hell he missed the call. it wasnt really that close. I feel worse for Joyce because people are attacking his wife and kids. that is just retarded. what the hell do his wife and kids have to do with that call? I want scott norwood to burn in hell for all of eternity, but i have no ill will towards his fam.

Tower · 06-03-10, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by DennisGreen

LOL are you kidding me? This will haunt him for the rest of his career and he will be known only for this blown call. That's a hell of a weight to carry on your conscience.

Couldn't agree more. Its like having a guilty conscience, knowing that you really fvcked up and can't ever make it right. This is what Joyce will be know by for the rest of his life. I feel way worse for Joyce...

mangina11 · 06-03-10, 01:37 PM

Joyce

ElmDiggity · 06-03-10, 05:07 PM

Anyone know if MLB is really going to look into changing the decision of the game? I have been hearing that, but I truly do not think this is possible considering the way MLB is. Personally, I wouldn't want something like that to happen...

mtneer1212 · 06-03-10, 05:09 PM

Joyce was/is the best umpire in the game. 22 years of great service, but he will always be known for this.

stealthyburrito · 06-03-10, 05:12 PM

sucks for joyce, but i don't feel bad for him at all.

a vette cannot fill the void of perfection.

canon714 · 06-03-10, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by ElmDiggity

Galarraga is cheated out of what we now know for sure was a perfect game...

Joyce blows the biggest call of his career and will have the rest of his entire life to deal with that call...

Who do you feel worse for? I can't decide... The whole situation makes me absolutely sick. If baseball expands on instant replay, in what capacity could they use it? A red flag for each coach like in football? Only instant replay on certain plays? Who is going to determine what those plays are?

Certainly, this creates for a very interesting time in professional baseball. I really feel bad for both of these standup professionals. Galarraga was so professional in the way he handled himself and I felt he really came off looking like a better person than if he had of chewed Joyce out. Even Joyce mentioned that he would not have blamed Galarraga for giving him a few choice words for his blown call. Joyce was called the "2nd best umpire in baseball" by Sports Illustrated in 2006. He is no chump in the world of umpires. His reaction to viewing the instant replay really gave the public a look into what kind of person Jim Joyce is. He has been in the league 22 seasons. Having an umpire like that is an asset to the game in a time where umpires like Joe West are tossing players and managers for absolute BS.

I will be very interested to see how this forum reacts to Jim Joyce and his future...

The commissioner can right the wrong if he has the balls to do so

MR PROFIT · 06-03-10, 05:17 PM

He got a new Corvette out the deal,so he ain't too shitty!!

RiverRaid · 06-03-10, 05:25 PM

Could not care less, I got bad beat on a balk the other night in the Dodgers vs D backs game. I did not see the call just read about it but shit happens.

JW Cash · 06-03-10, 05:30 PM

Joyce will get booed every game he umps for the rest of his life...............

RiverRaid · 06-03-10, 05:31 PM

Plus he is getting more press talk out of this than if it would have actually been called a perfect game. Galaragga handling it the way he did makes it even better.

Andy117 · 06-03-10, 05:44 PM

Feel terrible for both. Joyce has to hear about his mistake the rest of his career and Galarraga loses out on baseball history.
Still think Selig should have done the right thing and saved both of them some heartache.

pat venditto · 06-03-10, 05:49 PM

Joyce is going to need body guards until he retires.

Sunde91 · 06-03-10, 05:52 PM

Do you feel worse for the rapist or the rapee?

bbar86 · 06-03-10, 06:54 PM

Joyce for now, Selig in the long run

rob11234 · 06-03-10, 09:14 PM

Joyce may be haunted for the rest of his career, but how much longer than 22 years would his career have gone anyway?