Andy Pettitte is a hall of famer--I don't want to hear it...

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  • will2survive
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-26-09
    • 8099

    #1
    Andy Pettitte is a hall of famer--I don't want to hear it...
    He doesnt' need 300 wins to enter the hallowed halls of Cooperstown.Multiple championships,clutch performances,being a competitor that you want in a pivotal moment,and conducting himself like a gentleman says to me....ANDY PETTITTE HALL OF FAMER-----I don't want to hear about HGH--Pettitte's grit and perserverance carved out a great career for himself.A true class act and an enjoyment to watch.

    Granted it will take him a while but he should get in and he's also maintaining his performance level into his late 30's
  • Chi_archie
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-22-08
    • 63167

    #2
    I don't know....

    guy wasn't even an all-star too much.....


    Hall of Fame should be reserved for GREAT players in their era as compared to their contemporaries.... not above avg guys that had longevity and played on good teams
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    • BIGDAY
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 02-17-10
      • 48245

      #3
      It should only be for the great, period.
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      • str
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-12-09
        • 11768

        #4
        Numbers only,he seems a little short.
        Yankees will help but ....I would say,not quite.
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        • 2daBank
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-26-09
          • 88966

          #5
          1st off he really doesnt have the numbers, second and i dont care if you want to hear it or not if they are gonna keep out Bonds, big mac, Clemons, great HOF players that juiced how the fukk can you argue this guy who isnt even one of the greatest but also cheated should get in?
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          • will2survive
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 11-26-09
            • 8099

            #6
            He admitted a mistake and I don't think that he was an abuser
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            • Deuce
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 01-12-08
              • 29843

              #7


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              • 2daBank
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-26-09
                • 88966

                #8
                Originally posted by will2survive
                He admitted a mistake and I don't think that he was an abuser

                that is a joke, you can not pick and choose which cheaters you LIKE to get in....personally im not convinced juicers shouldnt get in but as long as that is how it is gonna go no Bonds then no one with any link to anything should get in period....
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                • will2survive
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-26-09
                  • 8099

                  #9
                  It depends on the situation.The records haven't been taken down.Are we going to prevent any of these players from entering the HOF.Bonds was an easy HOF'er before he juiced it up.
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                  • 2daBank
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-26-09
                    • 88966

                    #10
                    Originally posted by will2survive
                    He admitted a mistake and I don't think that he was an abuser

                    maybe you can start a Hall of best apologies/excuses and you can name the damn thing after him....or acting HOF...
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                    • 2daBank
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-26-09
                      • 88966

                      #11
                      Originally posted by will2survive
                      It depends on the situation.The records haven't been taken down.Are we going to prevent any of these players from entering the HOF.Bonds was an easy HOF'er before he juiced it up.


                      like i said im not arguing that juicers shouldnt get in, personally i say so what but that is not the way it seems to be looking at the moment and there are way more deserving juicers out there than Pettitte, you can not pick and choose and if your gonna pick and choose the criteria should not be who you thinks apology is the most exceptable
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                      • rm18
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-20-05
                        • 22291

                        #12
                        Bonds should make the hall of fame, he was already in the hall in 1999
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                        • 2daBank
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-26-09
                          • 88966

                          #13
                          Originally posted by rm18
                          Bonds should make the hall of fame, he was already in the hall in 1999


                          i agree....then again they still keeping Pete fukkin Rose out!!!!!!!!!!!
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                          • Chi_archie
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-22-08
                            • 63167

                            #14
                            do you want mike mussina in there too?
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                            • str
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-12-09
                              • 11768

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Chi_archie
                              do you want mike mussina in there too?
                              Pretty sure Mussina is a lock.
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                              • stealthyburrito
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 05-12-09
                                • 21562

                                #16
                                numbers aren't even that great to get him in, and the admittance and link to clemens only makes his candidacy an uphill battle.
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                                • will2survive
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-26-09
                                  • 8099

                                  #17
                                  Mussina's stats are better but Andy is a big game pitcher and a champion ---multiple times
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                                  • BobHarvey
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 07-08-08
                                    • 3987

                                    #18
                                    will,

                                    You've got a better chance of getting the HOF.

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                                    • Doug
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 08-10-05
                                      • 6324

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by stealthyburrito
                                      numbers aren't even that great to get him in, and the admittance and link to clemens only makes his candidacy an uphill battle.

                                      He's nearly 100 games over .500

                                      He would be a lock without the roids.
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                                      • gryfyn1
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-30-10
                                        • 3285

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by will2survive
                                        Andy is a big game pitcher and a champion ---multiple times
                                        Actually Pettite is very average in the playoffs - sure he's 18-9 in 40 starts but thats a function of being a good pithcer on a great team - he only avergae 6 IP/ start, has a ho-hum 3.90 ERA; 1.33 WHIP; and a poor 5.9 K/9 - and he worse in the WS 5-4 with a 4.06 ERA; 5.5 IP/S, 1.40 WHIP in 13 starts - so he's not a "big game" pitcher

                                        I guess hes a "multiple time champion" but so Scott Brocious, Ricky Ledee and Ramiro Mendoza -- and none of them are headed to the Hall -

                                        Pettite has been consistently good on very good teams, a feat unto itself - He isn't as good as Mussina was, and I don't think Moose is hall worthy either -
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                                        • stealthyburrito
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 05-12-09
                                          • 21562

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Doug
                                          He's nearly 100 games over .500

                                          He would be a lock without the roids.
                                          What? are you being serious?? and that has nothing to do with pitching with the YANKEES for most of his career.

                                          there are at least half a dozen pitchers with ERAs a half point better than him that are not in the hall buddy.
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                                          • Andy117
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 02-07-10
                                            • 9511

                                            #22
                                            Not a HOFer to me. Good pitcher, not great and not nearly as "clutch" as some think.
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                                            • GRUMPERZ
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 10-26-09
                                              • 261

                                              #23
                                              no chance in hell

                                              not even that great with plenty of pitchers from his era ahead of him... I'm not saying all these guys will make it, but they are ahead of him in the pecking order.. HGH scandal added to this gives him literally 0 chance

                                              Clemens
                                              Maddux
                                              Glavine
                                              Johnson
                                              Pedro
                                              Santana
                                              Mussina
                                              Schilling
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                                              • LT Profits
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 10-27-06
                                                • 90963

                                                #24
                                                Is this thread a joke?

                                                Pettitte may be a nice guy, but he has ZERO chance of making Hall.
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #25
                                                  One of best clutch players of all times

                                                  He will get in
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                                                  • Jedi
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 02-20-10
                                                    • 701

                                                    #26
                                                    i think somebody has a little crush on Andie boy
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                                                    • Sledge187
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 04-25-08
                                                      • 3722

                                                      #27
                                                      Words to describe Andy Pettitte.
                                                      Cheater, Trader, Rat and Coward.
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                                                      • cro
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-16-09
                                                        • 1088

                                                        #28
                                                        no chance
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                                                        • DrunkHorseplayer
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 05-15-10
                                                          • 7719

                                                          #29
                                                          Good pitcher on a great team; even without the steroid factor, he doesn't belong.
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                                                          • seaborneq
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 09-08-06
                                                            • 22556

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by will2survive
                                                            He doesnt' need 300 wins to enter the hallowed halls of Cooperstown.Multiple championships,clutch performances,being a competitor that you want in a pivotal moment,and conducting himself like a gentleman says to me....ANDY PETTITTE HALL OF FAMER-----I don't want to hear about HGH--Pettitte's grit and perserverance carved out a great career for himself.A true class act and an enjoyment to watch.

                                                            Granted it will take him a while but he should get in and he's also maintaining his performance level into his late 30's
                                                            You must be Andy Pettite Jr or Andy Pettite II, or Andy Pettite III. Or George Steinbrenner.
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                                                            • tbill11
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 03-15-09
                                                              • 1451

                                                              #31
                                                              As much as I hate the Yankees, Pettitte is the one Yank I'd want to see in the HOF. But, if he gets in then hands down Jamie Moyer should get in too. They were the two most consistent left-handed pitchers of the last 20 years, and consistency definitely would count if I had a vote.
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