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  • LT Profits
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-27-06
    • 90963

    #1
    MLB Picks - Wednesday, 9/21/22
    2 MLB Sides Wednesday

    Orioles -152
    Angels +131


    YTD: 342-360-17, -23.78


    All plays are Listed Pitchers unless ACTION is stated

    Season low was -35.16 entering games of Thursday, 8/11/22
  • LT Profits
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-27-06
    • 90963

    #2
    3 MLB Plays Wednesday

    3 MLB Plays Wednesday

    Orioles -152
    Angels +131
    Cardinals / Padres UNDER 7.5 -108
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    • Regul8er
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-06-07
      • 10666

      #3
      Why O’s at this price? Just curious on your thoughts. They arent trending in the right direction, Lyles has been getting pounded lately, yet this seems like its priced where it would have been 2 weeks ago.
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      • stevex
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 05-02-10
        • 5122

        #4
        Originally posted by Regul8er
        Why O’s at this price? Just curious on your thoughts. They arent trending in the right direction, Lyles has been getting pounded lately, yet this seems like its priced where it would have been 2 weeks ago.
        It’s the model which doesn’t look at trends. Betting baseball is mostly about trends. For example, say the Yanks have won 6 in a row, depending on the price I’d bet them to win 7 in a row.
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        • spippen
          SBR MVP
          • 03-17-09
          • 3874

          #5
          good luck
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #6
            He does
            Not quit

            Should get an award
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            • Regul8er
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 11-06-07
              • 10666

              #7
              Originally posted by stevex
              It’s the model which doesn’t look at trends. Betting baseball is mostly about trends. For example, say the Yanks have won 6 in a row, depending on the price I’d bet them to win 7 in a row.
              Got it man! Ya, tracking direction is a critical component. I find, especially in baseball, the market adjustment can take weeks. Mid August, the O’s were still priced as a non contender. I cashed several tickets where they were priced +160 to +180 when I had them priced 30 or 40 cents lower. They should not be anywhere near this price tonight with this pitching matchup and with how cool their bats are.
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              • pavyracer
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 04-12-07
                • 82644

                #8
                Trends should be factored in when modeling. It's not all about stats. LT never bet once the Braves, Dodgers or Yankees when they were on 10 plus winning streaks multiple times.
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                • Rich Boy
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-01-09
                  • 9713

                  #9
                  Food for thought...

                  Bookmakers used advanced models to handicap games and give the most accurate outcome probabilities based on simulations

                  Why do you assume that your model is more accurate/efficient than those used by professionals and industry leaders?
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                  • asiagambler
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 07-23-17
                    • 6827

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Rich Boy
                    Food for thought...

                    Bookmakers used advanced models to handicap games and give the most accurate outcome probabilities based on simulations

                    Why do you assume that your model is more accurate/efficient than those used by professionals and industry leaders?
                    Well that's the same thing as asking a bettor (professional or otherwise), "Why do you think you know better than the market?"

                    As long as you beat the closing line (by an appropriate margin) isn't that all that matters ?
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                    • LT Profits
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-27-06
                      • 90963

                      #11
                      3 MLB Pick Additions

                      6 MLB Plays Wednesday

                      Orioles -152
                      Pirates / Yankees UNDER 7.5 -103
                      Angels +131
                      Royals +121
                      Padres -131

                      Cardinals / Padres UNDER 7.5 -108
                      Comment
                      • Jayvegas420
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 03-09-11
                        • 28213

                        #12
                        see any value in the rays?
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                        • SlickFazzer
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-22-08
                          • 20209

                          #13
                          Need to hold -23 units to have any chance for a comeback.
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                          • LT Profits
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-27-06
                            • 90963

                            #14
                            2 More MLB Pick Additions

                            8 MLB Plays Wednesday

                            Astros / Rays UNDER 7 -110 (ACTION)
                            Orioles -152
                            Pirates / Yankees UNDER 7.5 -103
                            Angels +131
                            Royals +121
                            Guardians / White Sox OVER 8 -108
                            Padres -131
                            Cardinals / Padres UNDER 7.5 -108
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                            • Rich Boy
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 02-01-09
                              • 9713

                              #15
                              Originally posted by asiagambler
                              Well that's the same thing as asking a bettor (professional or otherwise), "Why do you think you know better than the market?"

                              As long as you beat the closing line (by an appropriate margin) isn't that all that matters ?
                              And most dont, despite the belief they do

                              How many people can beat any major sports market consistently? Its too efficient imo, once you move to stock markets for example you can get edges >20% consistently

                              Over 700 plays now with negative return, safe to say there is no edge with this model.
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                              • asiagambler
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 07-23-17
                                • 6827

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Rich Boy
                                And most dont, despite the belief they do

                                How many people can beat any major sports market consistently? Its too efficient imo, once you move to stock markets for example you can get edges >20% consistently

                                Over 700 plays now with negative return, safe to say there is no edge with this model.
                                This year certainly not but OP is still betting it so he must still believe in it
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                                • Rich Boy
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 02-01-09
                                  • 9713

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by asiagambler
                                  This year certainly not but OP is still betting it so he must still believe in it
                                  Fair enough, hes had success in years past but at what point does a model become outdated. At what point do you need to tweak things? 700 plays is a large enough sample size to see that any edge this did produce is gone or has this been an outlier year in MLB outcomes.
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                                  • asiagambler
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 07-23-17
                                    • 6827

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Rich Boy
                                    Fair enough, hes had success in years past but at what point does a model become outdated. At what point do you need to tweak things? 700 plays is a large enough sample size to see that any edge this did produce is gone or has this been an outlier year in MLB outcomes.
                                    Well the first part is easy to answer, it's outdated when it no longer has an edge. I certainly don't disagree with anything you're saying. Me personally I don't believe in betting strictly based on a model or algorithm as there are just too many variables and market factors that aren't taken into consideration or are too difficult to accurately evaluate with a strictly quantitative approach. As far as tweaking things here, LT would definitely know more as it's his model not mine lol
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                                    • LT Profits
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-27-06
                                      • 90963

                                      #19
                                      Actually guys I have .done a decent job at beating closers, it simply has not translated as well as usual this year.
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                                      • LT Profits
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-27-06
                                        • 90963

                                        #20
                                        2 Last MLB Pick Additions

                                        And we end up with a 10-Pack!

                                        10 MLB Plays Wednesday

                                        Astros / Rays UNDER 7 -110 (ACTION)
                                        Orioles -152
                                        Pirates / Yankees UNDER 7.5 -103
                                        Angels +131
                                        Angels / Rangers OVER 9 +107
                                        Royals +121
                                        Guardians / White Sox OVER 8 -108
                                        Padres -131
                                        Cardinals / Padres UNDER 7.5 -108
                                        Athletics +193
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                                        • LT Profits
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-27-06
                                          • 90963

                                          #21
                                          6-2-2 with a +193
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