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  • Willie Bee
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-14-06
    • 15726

    #1
    Phillies at Dodgers: NLCS Rematch
    Phillies at Dodgers: NLCS Rematch

    Randy Wolf is no longer the starter for LA against Philly in the first game of the NLCS, but it's still a battle of lefthanders when the Dodgers host the Philadelphia Phillies on Thursday.

    If the Phillies are a little tired when the 2009 NLCS finally gets underway in Los Angeles on Thursday, it's because they've been racking up the air miles traveling back and forth across the country the past few days following Monday's dramatic win over the Rockies in Denver.

    Philadelphia left Colorado after that game and traveled home before coming all the way back to LA on Wednesday to begin their rematch for the NL Pennant with the Dodgers. According to the Oddsmakers, this NLCS will turn out differently than in 2008 when the Phils bested the Bums four games to one on their way to the World Series Championship. The Dodgers opened around -115 to take down the defending champs, a price that has risen to -125 most places as the Game 1 starting pitchers became clearer.

    For Game 1, LA was originally the -110 favorite when everyone thought Randy Wolf would be opposing Cole Hamels for Philadelphia. That line has since moved into the -130s, even -140 at some shops with the word on Thursday afternoon that Joe Torre was going to go with Clayton Kershaw instead.

    Game 1's total was set at 7½ where it has stayed at 5Dimes, the Under being the thicker chalk now.

    Even though the majority of their rosters are the same as last October, a lot has changed for these two teams in those 12 short months. And a big factor in the Phillies being the underdogs despite being the defending champs is the difference between the 2008 and 2009 versions of Philadelphia's Game 1 starter, Cole Hamels.

    Hamels was on fire last October, earning MVP honors in both the NLCS and World Series win over the Rays. In fact, despite an up-&-down season, the young lefty pitched superbly against the Dodgers in two starts this year, allowing just one earned in 16 innings of work vs. LA in 2009.

    Over Hamels' last six starts vs. the Dodgers, Philly is 4-2 with the southpaw sporting a 2.04 ERA over 44 innings. That includes two wins in last year’s NLCS and a 5-hit shutout on June 4 in LA when the Phillies won 3-0.

    But he exited September off two bad outings, a trend that has continued into his two October starting assignments up to now. The fact his wife was going into labor can be an excuse for his start at home against the Rockies last week, but he's definitely on the hook for getting back into his previous form and the clincher in the public's perception right now that the boy just ain't right for one reason or another.

    Joe Torre's switch from Wolf to Kershaw is a bold one to some degree, but also makes sense on many levels. Kershaw made two starts against the Phils this season and LA lost both. The southpaw who is barely old enough to buy liquor worked a total of 10.1 innings and gave up six runs, all earned.

    Exactly how Torre will set his rotation after Kershaw is still unclear, but my guess would be Vicente Padilla in the comfy confines of Chavez Ravine on Friday for Game 2 and open the Philly part of the trip with Randy Wolf who has experience in the park and the city. Hiroki Kuroda could be able to return while the series is in Philadelphia as well, leaving Chad Billingsley as the likely long relief option.

    Kershaw's 8-8 record this season masks the fact he has assumed the mantle of Dodgers staff ace already. Torre reportedly would have gone with the kid in Game 5 of the NLDS if it had gone that far, and why not since Torre has often remarked Kershaw reminds him of a young Sandy Koufax.

    One more big difference in the two clubs is it was Philadelphia that had the better bullpen in 2008; this year the Dodgers have the best in the majors with Phillies relievers very inconsistent. Maybe Brad Lidge is going to get it back together with two hitless saves in Games 3 and 4 of the NLDS, but just getting to Lidge could be shaky.

    The key in this one is Phillies pitching and I like Hamels to have a good game. Phillies +125 and Under 7½ for me.

    STARTING PITCHERS
    NLCS Game 1, Thu, 8:07 p.m. (ET): Cole Hamels (16-16, 4.32; LDS 0-1, 7.20) vs. Randy Wolf (23-11, 3.23; LDS 1-0, 4.91)

    UMPIRE
    Randy Marsh will chief the NLCS umpiring crew and draw Game 1 duties behind the plate. With 28 MLB seasons under his belt in the big leagues, the 60-year old Marsh stood 18-14 this season in favor of the home team and went 19-12-1 O/U on the totals.

    A veteran of 18 postseason series, Marsh last called the balls and strike in a playoff game during the 2007 ALCS between the Red Sox and Indians when he also served as the crew chief. He worked Game 1 (a 10-3 Boston rout) and Game 7 (an 11-2 Boston rout), both games at Fenway.

    The rest of the NLCS crew rounds out with Bruce Dreckman (1B in Game 1), Sam Holbrook (2B), Ted Barrett (3B), Tom Hallion (LF), Gary Cederstrom (RF).

    WEATHER
    Believe it or not it looks like LA could start the day with some showers, but that tapers off and it should be just fine come first pitch. Current forecasts call for the thermometer to be in the low-to-mid 70s when the game gets underway a little after five o'clock local time. Winds are listed out of the at 5-10 out of the WNW (from left into 1B).

    NOTE: The W-L records shown for starting pitchers are their team's W-L mark when they start games. Statistical sources for this article were Retrosheet.org, Baseball-Reference.com and ESPN.com and of course, S-BEE-R-dot-com!
  • rm18
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-20-05
    • 22291

    #2
    Torre is a retard horrible rotation should be

    Kershaw
    Wolf
    Billingsley
    Garland

    he goes with:
    Kershaw
    Padilla
    Kuroda
    Wolf

    Dodgers would be -225 with my rotation, and now maybe -132 with Torre's
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    • KingCrimson21
      SBR High Roller
      • 12-24-08
      • 216

      #3
      Nice write up...leaning Phillies and Over game 1. Good luck to all...unless you have the Dodgers and the under game 1.
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      • varin18
        SBR High Roller
        • 09-21-09
        • 172

        #4
        Wolf should be the starter today...big mistake to not to do everything to increase the chances of winning the crucial first game...
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        • droc
          SBR High Roller
          • 03-17-09
          • 181

          #5
          It looks as though Torre will go with.....

          #1 Kershaw.....Love the move to start Kershaw at home in game 1
          #2 Padilla.......I would prefer to see Billingsly here, he looked great in his last 2 starts, after struggling a bit after his injury. Padilla just scares me.
          #3 Wolf.........Thinking Torre is more comfortable with Wolf pitching the 1st game in Philly
          #4 Billingsly or Kuroda......Something tells me Billingsly will get a start here over Kuroda and Garland, although I don't think Torre is even sure who he'll go with yet.
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          • xxxvince
            SBR MVP
            • 12-17-07
            • 2567

            #6
            go phillies
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            • StraitShooter
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-22-09
              • 10464

              #7
              I am on the Dodgers to go all the way

              Vin Scully will have his championship this year
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              • philswin
                SBR MVP
                • 04-18-07
                • 1279

                #8
                Lets hope if Vin Scully gets to call a championship the same fate does not occur to him as it did to Harry Kalas. As they were the best 2 broadcasters in sports. Phillies have advantage in the starting pitching, dodgers advantage in bullpen, Hitting is a slight advantage to phillies. The key is if the Phils pitchers can go at least 7 innings advantage to them. If Dodgers can knock out the starters early they will have advantage
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #9
                  Lean towards Phila

                  Dodgers have little value tonight.

                  Solid write up
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                  • CK
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 07-22-09
                    • 198

                    #10
                    I will admit this is partially the Dodgers fan in me talking, but I love Los Dojers behind Kershaw tonight at home. He's a stud. With two potent offenses, I'm going reasonably big with 5 units on Parlay: Dodgers ML (-136) and Over (7.5).
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                    • Willie Bee
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-14-06
                      • 15726

                      #11
                      Originally posted by philswin
                      Lets hope if Vin Scully gets to call a championship the same fate does not occur to him as it did to Harry Kalas. As they were the best 2 broadcasters in sports.
                      I'd love for Scully to do the game. Too bad Kalas isn't around to see this, loved him during his brief time working Houston games back in the 60s, miss his style and voice.
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                      • Bread
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-16-08
                        • 23726

                        #12
                        Ended up playing Phila +110 for the series.
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                        • hockey216
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-20-08
                          • 4583

                          #13
                          every handicapper and their mother is on the dodgers tonight
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                          • The General
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 08-10-05
                            • 13279

                            #14
                            Proudly sporting my Nike MLB Dodger cap this season and now hoping for a great finale. I told a friend a couple days ago we were due to win since it has been 20 years. He replied. Fuk you, try being a cubs fan.
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                            • xmrblueduckyx
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 03-11-09
                              • 300

                              #15
                              leaning phillies and the UNDER tonight.
                              Hamels has been great in LA and always solid against the dodgers.
                              GL tho!
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                              • Wrigley
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 12-28-07
                                • 7268

                                #16
                                Dodgers-yankees series would be fun Torre against his former team
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                                • El Sol
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 05-17-08
                                  • 876

                                  #17
                                  nice write up willie, ty
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                                  • wolf pack of 1
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 10-13-09
                                    • 11

                                    #18
                                    tough toss up tonight but. i'm leaning towards LA.
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                                    • NEOHsports4life
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-13-09
                                      • 1149

                                      #19
                                      Phillies +1 1/2
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                                      • 19th Hole
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 03-22-09
                                        • 18952

                                        #20
                                        Willie bee knows baseball.
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                                        • Willie Bee
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 02-14-06
                                          • 15726

                                          #21
                                          Not really 19th, certainly was not expecting 14 runs in the game. If it was going to have been a high-scoring game, I would've expected the runs to come earlier in the game, not from the middle on.
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                                          • Regul8er
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 11-06-07
                                            • 10666

                                            #22
                                            Going to be a highly entertaining series. I expect the momentum to shift back and forth all series long. I smell a game 7 here.
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                                            • KingCrimson21
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 12-24-08
                                              • 216

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Regul8er
                                              Going to be a highly entertaining series. I expect the momentum to shift back and forth all series long. I smell a game 7 here.
                                              Hope you are right. More opportunities!! Great weekend and good luck.
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                                              • Regul8er
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 11-06-07
                                                • 10666

                                                #24
                                                I don't think there's any reason for us to think otherwise. I think these teams proved last night that they are both going to fight until the end, and they are so evenly matched. Phils took advantage of some wildness, and the Dodgers answered back in the bottom half each time. Looking forward to this afternoon's game!
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