How is this NOT a lock?

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  • Rich Boy
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-01-09
    • 9714

    #1
    How is this NOT a lock?
    Nationals +180 (3 game series)
    Houston -240 (3 game series)

    Nationals are 9-32 (.219) on the road.

    Someone tell me why I shouldn't bet my entire bankroll on this...
  • woodman663
    SBR High Roller
    • 07-02-09
    • 143

    #2
    Results from the past are no guarantee for the future.

    That, and betting your entire bankroll is just plain stupid.
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    • VegasDave
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-03-07
      • 8056

      #3
      Tonight, Lannan faces Ortiz... a very winnable game for the Nats.

      Tomorrow, Olsen faces Oswalt... an almost certain win for the Astros

      Saturday, Stammen faces Hampton... edge to the Astros

      Personally, I wouldn't bet my entire bankroll on a .500 team sending Ortiz and Hampton to the mound. I think its a decent bet, but not an OMG-lock bet.

      In fact, considering Scott Olsen is one of Washington's worst (Nats are 2-7-1 in his starts this season) and he is coming off of a strong game in Atlanta (on paper anyway... 8.2 IP 3 ER looks good, but 8 hits and 5 walks in that one, could have been worse) going up against Houston's best in Roy Oswalt, I don't imagine the 'Stros will be much chalkier than -240... why not just bet that game tomorrow?
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      • curious
        Restricted User
        • 07-20-07
        • 9093

        #4
        Originally posted by woodman663
        Results from the past are no guarantee for the future.

        That, and betting your entire bankroll is just plain stupid.
        Ah, let him bet his $10 if he wants.
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        • JC2008
          SBR MVP
          • 02-27-08
          • 2258

          #5
          There's no such thing as a lock. The people thought the same thing when they thought there was no way the Yankees would lose the series to the Nationals, look what happened. Oh well, serves people right for laying 600 to win 100 or whatever the odds were haha.
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          • Rich Boy
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 02-01-09
            • 9714

            #6
            I was looking at the Nats past road series (3 games) and they have 2 wins this season (@ Dbacks, @ Yankees)

            If they can win @ Yankees then I guess anything is possible, they even lost the 1st game of that series.
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            • Rich Boy
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 02-01-09
              • 9714

              #7
              I figure I would get better odds just fading the Nats ML for all 3 games.

              No way they can take 3 in a row, on the road...
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              • themajormt
                SBR MVP
                • 07-30-08
                • 3964

                #8
                Instead of the series I would bet the Stros each game and chase if they lose... I have done it 3 times this year and it has worked and I dont think they have swept a series yet. Could be wrong but just going off of my recollection and not facts.
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                • dreamjob
                  SBR MVP
                  • 05-21-09
                  • 1963

                  #9
                  No major its a fact the nats haven't swept a series at all this season. Nothing new for me I fade them its money in the bank.
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                  • paco
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 05-07-09
                    • 62873

                    #10
                    Nationals took the sries from the yankees on the road
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                    • dreamjob
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-21-09
                      • 1963

                      #11
                      Originally posted by paco
                      Nationals took the sries from the yankees on the road

                      Yes Paco they took the series but not swept. Just play the hou ml and chase to a win. The astros will win at least one of these games.
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                      • Rich Boy
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 02-01-09
                        • 9714

                        #12
                        I think im going to fade the Nats ML for the rest of the season.

                        These guys are almost averaging 1 error per game, that's insane.
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                        • dreamjob
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-21-09
                          • 1963

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Rich Boy
                          I think im going to fade the Nats ML for the rest of the season.

                          These guys are almost averaging 1 error per game, that's insane.
                          That's what I have been doing. The money keeps flowing in.
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                          • Rich Boy
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-01-09
                            • 9714

                            #14
                            I cant believe the Nats are only getting +112 on the road here. Are the odds makers wrong? or do the Nats just under perform?
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                            • dreamjob
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-21-09
                              • 1963

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Rich Boy
                              I cant believe the Nats are only getting +112 on the road here. Are the odds makers wrong? or do the Nats just under perform?
                              Both, plus the betting public gives the nats way too much respect. Why? I have no clue.
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                              • Rich Boy
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 02-01-09
                                • 9714

                                #16
                                That doesnt add up. Something else is going on here. But until the Nats start getting +200 every game, im going to fade them.
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                                • dreamjob
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-21-09
                                  • 1963

                                  #17
                                  Like I said the public is showing them way too much respect. At the current lines the public is 45% on the nats. I think people see the line and sense a trap. I know its not a trap the nats suck!
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                                  • Rich Boy
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-01-09
                                    • 9714

                                    #18
                                    Ive got 29% on Nats (bet tracker)
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                                    • dreamjob
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 05-21-09
                                      • 1963

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Rich Boy
                                      Ive got 29% on Nats (bet tracker)
                                      Yeah vegasinsider has 20% on the nats. Oops I went by sbrlines I guess they're not so accurate.
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                                      • LT Profits
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-27-06
                                        • 90963

                                        #20
                                        sbrlines uses 5 dimes only.
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                                        • dreamjob
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 05-21-09
                                          • 1963

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by LT Profits
                                          sbrlines uses 5 dimes only.
                                          Ah i see.
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                                          • LT Profits
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-27-06
                                            • 90963

                                            #22
                                            Oh and keep in mind that this is a four-game series, so it is entirely possible for the Nats to win the three-game "series" and for the Astros to win the fourth game Sunday, which would not count toward bet.
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                                            • stats13
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 06-29-09
                                              • 1687

                                              #23
                                              by your logic the nats would never win a series on the road ever this season, right? cuz they're always going to ahve the worse pitching matchup.

                                              crazy shit happens in sports, count on it happening
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                                              • Rich Boy
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 02-01-09
                                                • 9714

                                                #24
                                                There is no way the Nats are getting respect from the public. Watch one Nats game and you will see how pathetic this team is.
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                                                • watertight
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 05-20-07
                                                  • 2453

                                                  #25
                                                  lannan is hot in his last 6 going 4-0, 2.40 era, i have no problem betting against ortiz in this matchup.
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                                                  • trumpdown
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 01-21-09
                                                    • 755

                                                    #26
                                                    What if you are the "public" and the minority "sharps" are on WASH Could this be possible
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                                                    • curious
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 07-20-07
                                                      • 9093

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by watertight
                                                      lannan is hot in his last 6 going 4-0, 2.40 era, i have no problem betting against ortiz in this matchup.
                                                      I'm on the Gnats today for that very reason. Any pitcher that can go 4-0 with the Gnats ridiculous lineup behind him has done something impressive.
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                                                      • trumpdown
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 01-21-09
                                                        • 755

                                                        #28
                                                        Anyway if I take WASH I'll take them first 5 only Too many BP blow-outs.
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                                                        • fifawcs
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 05-14-07
                                                          • 2888

                                                          #29
                                                          The Nats may surprise a lot of you in this series. Lannan and Olsen have been pitching deeper into games lately. This gives the Nats a larger advantage since their bullpen, which has lost a whopping 29 games this season, will not need be used as much. OPS-wise, the Nationals have a better offense than the Astros this season. The Astros have the defensive advantage, but it's safe to say that Zimmerman is a better 3b than Blum/Keppinger. Nats could win this series with Lannan and Olsen pitching.
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