Is this Kosher?

[Dbldown11]

This may be another standard practice in betting that makes no sense but is widely accepted.

I placed a bet on the CWS -135 with Colon pitching and it was listed as (action)

My fault to not make the bet (listed). So instead of cancelling my bet with there was a pitching change (like creditwagering did for me) VIP just changed the line. So instead of paying -135 for the Sox (and Colon) they just changed my bet the the Sox -145 with Floyd pitching.

I didnt cap the game with that pitcher and NEVER agreed to a bet at -145. So is it standard to just be able to change bets like with and the juice your paying? I would think they would have to just cancel the wager like Creditwagering did. How can you basically just make a completely different bet for the bettor using the same amount of money?

I'm sure theres a reason and it's standard (like not grading a O/U wager even if the over hits but the game was shortened do to rain)

Let me know

[Dbldown11]

ahhhh they do have it in their rules....although it's still BS. Wager should be cancelled or kept with the same line. I don't see how it's fair to give a bettor an alternet line that they have no choice to accept or not.....Guess it's my own dumb fault for not placing the wager with listed pitchers

[twister]

That is bullshit.

They whole point of betting on 'action' is that you are willing to take the line regardless of pitching changes - whether they go in your favour or against.

[Dbldown11]

that is exactly what I have always assumed twister......with this system what is the point of betting action? You should just always be 'listed' then if there is a change the wager is cancelled and you can choose for yourself if you want to take the same team with the new line or not.

The way they have this set up makes absolutely NO SENSE to ever bet action. lesson learned I guess

[sportsguy04]

They pushed my bet and refunded my money when they changed pitchers. So I had to go again and bet on the SOX with Flyod pitching.

[themajormt]

I might be just as naive as you DD but my understanding of "action" was that you wanted ACTION no matter the pitchers, so you are basically saying that you are betting on the Sox regardless of who is pitching and you want it at that price... If you wanted that specific pitching match up you wouldve picked "listed"... Regardless if its in the rules or not I think that is a shitty rule... You should have Floyd at -135

[Dbldown11]

I agree but they arent touching it....so now I'm stuck with Floyd at -145 (which I wouldnt have bet on). Hopefully they win and it's not an issue. Either way though a crap rule

[themajormt]

Least it won right??

[G's pks]

next time choose must pitch if that is what you want!

[LT Profits]

Yes, VIP handled it perfectly. The point of betting "Action" is that you have action if there is a pitching change, but it does NOT lock in the line you get with the original pitchers. You are givien the new opening line with the new pitcher. That is standard practice.

[themajormt]

Thats standard LT?

I have never encountered it but I thought it would lock in line when you take ACTION...

[Dbldown11]

Least it won right??

Yup a winners a winner

Now my beefs with creditwagering because they cancelled my wager and I didn't re-bet it!!! cost me $300!!!!!!! hahahahaha

[LT Profits]

Thats standard LT?

I have never encountered it but I thought it would lock in line when you take ACTION...

No, it just gives you Action. Suppose you bet the Mets at -240 with Action with Santana pitching, and there is a pitching change to Tim Redding with a new line of -145. Would you want to be locked in at -240? Of course not.

But since you bet "Action", you do keep the bet on the Mets, but at -145.

[yisman]

wow, that's ridiculous. You can't change the line when someone already placed a bet with a different line. It should stay locked in at the original price, for better or for worse.

Or they can just cancel all bets that were placed before the pitching change.

[Dbldown11]

Yeah lesson learned....It all worked out luckily, but from now on I'll just be betting listed. I mean I see ZERO benefit to betting action. Can anyone tell me the benefit to placing and action wager as opposed to just making it listed and re-betting if there's a change and you still want it?

[themajormt]

Probably the ONLY benefit would be that if you placed it and do not have time to monitor it and you just wanted to bet say your favorite team and couldnt give a shit who is pitching. I am definitely only doing listed now, I always did action before...

[LT Profits]

wow, that's ridiculous. You can't change the line when someone already placed a bet with a different line. It should stay locked in at the original price, for better or for worse.

Or they can just cancel all bets that were placed before the pitching change.

What makes baseball unique is that the betting line is 80% based on the starting pitchers. And they do cancel all wagers unless you specify "Action", an option that is not available at all books.

[DeeWizzle]

I was on the same game but wagered Colon as listed pitcher at 5dimes and they didnt even touch it. I came home to find out that Colon was scratched for Floyd and the wager stood. Fortunately it won.