Federer [2] vs. Djokovic [2], Men's Semifinal

**SBR Lou** · 09-05-08, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by Tchocky

I don't think Novak did himself any favors last night by alienating the unruly NY crowd. The guy was definitely bothered by Roddick's comments and the crowd. He's got a chip on his shoulder and he wants to shut up the crowd with another win. The crowd will definitely be behind Roger.

I think you're right about that, plus even with Fed's question marks Novak doesn't really have the stuff to beat Federer here IMO.

**VegasDave** · 09-05-08, 11:43 AM

I'm so bummed... I was a day late on getting the bet in on Federer to win the US Open can't believe it was at +350... not saying he will but the value on that was insane.

**gordon gekko** · 09-05-08, 11:45 AM

Fed is going to destroy Dj.

**WestsidePete** · 09-05-08, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by gordon gekko

Fed is going to destroy Dj.

I agree....probably in 4 sets Dj has got to be wearing down at least a little at this point compared to Fed and if you can hold serve Dj has definitely shown he can be broken at any time

**daggerkobe** · 09-05-08, 11:54 AM

Loved his emotional outburst. Not only because RodDICK deserved it for his stupid comments and the unruly ugly American crowd but it showed he can overcome enormous pressure.

He plays better when he's angry like he did at the Aussie Open.

Federer barely survived Andreev who blew about 12 BPs. Djoker won't do that.

I have said Federer was washed up all year and I am sticking to my gun.

**jjgold** · 09-05-08, 11:54 AM

Fed has been unimpressive in all his wins, he is having trouble putting points and games away against sub par players. Fed also is not as strong as this DJ guy and definitely has lost something off his ground strokes.

DJ in 4

**SBR Lou** · 09-05-08, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Fed has been unimpressive in all his wins, he is having trouble putting points and games away against sub par players. Fed also is not as strong as this DJ guy and definitely has lost something off his ground strokes.

DJ in 4

Federer 62 64 36 64

**daggerkobe** · 09-05-08, 11:56 AM

Broken anytime? He was broken what two times last night? And broke back as Andy was serving for the 5th set.

**WestsidePete** · 09-05-08, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by daggerkobe

Broken anytime? He was broken what two times last night? And broke back as Andy was serving for the 5th set.

How often has Fed been broken?? His sets are going to tie breaks....he can outlast DJ if he can't break DJ...what I mean by broken any time is it's more of a possibility of DJ being broken then Fed....yes, Fed has struggled but has only lost sets in one match while DJ has lost sets in the last 3 matches

**SBR Lou** · 09-05-08, 12:22 PM

Djokovic would have more of a chance if this was best of 3.

**WestsidePete** · 09-05-08, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by CrazyL

Djokovic would have more of a chance if this was best of 3.

Yes...I agree....and if Fed was serving at 5-4 down 2 sets to one like Roddick was Fed would have won the game and the fifth set....

**daggerkobe** · 09-05-08, 12:25 PM

It's not just about forcing tiebreake. Look how many times Djokovic broke Roddick last night. 4 out of first 8. The best server on tour got broken that many times?

Roger 2008

0-4 in slams and Olympics
0-7 in masters

2 total titles (even less than 19yr old Del Potro)

I'd be real careful betting Roger.

**daggerkobe** · 09-05-08, 12:28 PM

Djokovic destroyed Roger in straight sets in the last best of 5 so I don't know why crazy would say that.

**WestsidePete** · 09-05-08, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by daggerkobe

It's not just about forcing tiebreake. Look how many times Djokovic broke Roddick last night. 4 out of first 8. The best server on tour got broken that many times?

Roger 2008

0-4 in slams and Olympics
0-7 in masters

2 total titles (even less than 19yr old Del Potro)

I'd be real careful betting Roger.

I know....It does look bad....yes, DJ came out fast vs Roddick..Fed must start better then Roddick...that made Roddick basically chasing to stay in the match...Fed needs to be the one to win the first set

**bettilimbroke999** · 09-05-08, 12:36 PM

Very tough match, was figuring on getting decent +odds but the same suckers that placed donations on Roddick last night suddenly grew brains and realized Djoker is the real deal and that you can't just bet on the player you've heard about more often, just my luck figured the squares would pump Djoker up to at least +140

**WestsidePete** · 09-05-08, 12:38 PM

I keep thinking DJ is a little more worn down...I am factoring this a little in a best 3 of 5....that and Fed still is the 4 time defending champ here....

**WestsidePete** · 09-05-08, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by bettilimbroke999

Very tough match, was figuring on getting decent +odds but the same suckers that placed donations on Roddick last night suddenly grew brains and realized Djoker is the real deal and that you can't just bet on the player you've heard about more often, just my luck figured the squares would pump Djoker up to at least +140

I highly doubt people bet on Roddick because of his name only....I know I didn't that would be stupid...but you think betting on the 4 time defending champ at -135 is a square bet??

**EaglesPhan36** · 09-05-08, 12:51 PM

Player you've heard more often? It's #2 vs. #3 - pretty sure we've heard of both. Interested to see if Djokovic can find something to pump him up here. I think all the comments from Roddick certainly did fire him up, but Fed isn't going to give him anything to put on the bulletin board & Fed has probably more questions surrounding him than Djokovic.

For me, you bet based on two things here:

#1 - Djokovic's state of mind. If you think the Roddick match woke him up for good, go with him.

#2 - Fed's Revenge. You know he wants to win here again. You know he wants Rafa again. Is that enough to convince you he can win?

**Kingctb27** · 09-05-08, 12:55 PM

On Roger / Brewers Parlay.

Lets do it

**bettilimbroke999** · 09-05-08, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by WestsidePete

I highly doubt people bet on Roddick because of his name only....I know I didn't that would be stupid...but you think betting on the 4 time defending champ at -135 is a square bet??

I don't know why you bet on Roddick then, no stat or results comparison would justify him only being +130 or w/e crap odds you got him at, he's a fukin chump compared to Djoker, hell he couldn't even hold serve to take it to 5th set when the only thing he's got going for him is the serve.

Moving along to future bets though, Federer -140 is a square bet correct, you are simply not following tennis this year and suddenly pulling out your wallet b/c it's the US Open and you get to watch it live on TV. I can tell you Federer is absolute dump this year and Djoker has played twice as good as Fed in 2008, winning a couple masters titles, while Feds been struggling with every journeyman pro he goes up against this year. Fed is a shell of his former self as one could see at the French Open and Wimbledon where he was simply outclassed by Nadal, in the past yes he would've beaten Nadal at Wimbledon and he would've beaten Djoker at the US Open but we have to focus on the current situation, they don't let us bet on tournaments of years gone by unfortunately.

**WestsidePete** · 09-05-08, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by bettilimbroke999

I don't know why you bet on Roddick then, no stat or results comparison would justify him only being +130 or w/e crap odds you got him at, he's a fukin chump compared to Djoker, hell he couldn't even hold serve to take it to 5th set when the only thing he's got going for him is the serve.

Moving along to future bets though, Federer -140 is a square bet correct, you are simply not following tennis this year and suddenly pulling out your wallet b/c it's the US Open and you get to watch it live on TV. I can tell you Federer is absolute dump this year and Djoker has played twice as good as Fed in 2008, winning a couple masters titles, while Feds been struggling with every journeyman pro he goes up against this year. Fed is a shell of his former self as one could see at the French Open and Wimbledon where he was simply outclassed by Nadal, in the past yes he would've beaten Nadal at Wimbledon and he would've beaten Djoker at the US Open but we have to focus on the current situation, they don't let us bet on tournaments of years gone by unfortunately.

I'm not pulling out my wallet because it's the US Open and on TV...don't need your insults... just add your opinions...I have followed and played tennis for years you don't need to add anything towards me..you take chances on dogs sometimes to come thru..Roddick didn't play the Olympics ...came in the US Open rested....and Dj had just played a 5 seter vs Robredo while Roddick destroyed Gonzalez...Roddick blew it...put Fed in the same position and he wouldn't have blown it...we'll see...it should be a good match...

**Gorzy** · 09-05-08, 02:02 PM

Totally agree with bet999

Fed still fav because many people bet on him because his name

If you watched tennis this year you wouldn´t justify Federer being favourite.

**Shark79** · 09-05-08, 02:06 PM

Roger wins 3-2 at +580 is the best value IMO

**Shark79** · 09-05-08, 02:07 PM

Fed has had easier games than Djoko ... fatigue will be a factor and Djoko IMO will not have the same efficiency than Fed.

**bettilimbroke999** · 09-05-08, 02:20 PM

Djoker is the future, Federer is the past. Paying -140 for Federer in what's no better than a 50/50 is stupid, this is the first year since 2002 that Federer has failed to win a grand slam event heading into the US Open, and the first year since 2001 he has failed to win either a Masters series or grand slam event, Djoker on the other hand has won the Australian Masters (defeating Federer in the SF) and two Masters series events as well as just defeating Federer in Cincinatti SF. You squares are betting on the name only at -140 and it will cost you, this match is a coin toss this year, Fed is dead, anyone who actually pays attention to tennis this year knows what I'm talking about.

**Shark79** · 09-05-08, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by bettilimbroke999

Djoker is the future, Federer is the past. Paying -140 for Federer in what's no better than a 50/50 is stupid, this is the first year since 2002 that Federer has failed to win a grand slam event heading into the US Open, and the first year since 2001 he has failed to win either a Masters series or grand slam event, Djoker on the other hand has won the Australian Masters (defeating Federer in the SF) and two Masters series events as well as just defeating Federer in Cincinatti SF. You squares are betting on the name only at -140 and it will cost you, this match is a coin toss this year, Fed is dead, anyone who actually watches tennis this year knows what I'm talking about.

U r correct. Maybe the toss will be in favor of Fed.

Im stepping out of this game, simply to enjoy watching it. But it sure is a coin toss.

**WestsidePete** · 09-05-08, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by bettilimbroke999

Djoker is the future, Federer is the past. Paying -140 for Federer in what's no better than a 50/50 is stupid, this is the first year since 2002 that Federer has failed to win a grand slam event heading into the US Open, and the first year since 2001 he has failed to win either a Masters series or grand slam event, Djoker on the other hand has won the Australian Masters (defeating Federer in the SF) and two Masters series events as well as just defeating Federer in Cincinatti SF. You squares are betting on the name only at -140 and it will cost you, this match is a coin toss this year, Fed is dead, anyone who actually watches tennis this year knows what I'm talking about.

No...not name only...but I do agree that Dj is the future #1

**Shark79** · 09-05-08, 02:23 PM

we have another promising future. Del Potro ... he may take Djokos turn.

**Boner_18** · 09-05-08, 04:06 PM

I wouldn't say Fed is dead simply b/c he hasn't been as dominant as he has in the past. Lest we not forget he has still appeared two grand slam finals and a semi (in which Djok beat him).

Not to mention we all know he wants it bad. He has shown more emotion in this grand slam than we have seen out of him his entire career.

I like Fed in 4.

**EaglesPhan36** · 09-06-08, 10:24 AM

Federer steam rolling Djokovic in the 1st, 4-1.

**Tevez** · 09-06-08, 10:33 AM

Djoko is warming up.

**EaglesPhan36** · 09-06-08, 10:38 AM

Set 1 to the champ. 6-3.

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 09-06-08, 10:52 AM

Hard to know what to make of this. Federer hasn't played this well in a major match since last year's Masters Cup. Can he keep it up? If he can, I don't think there's much Djokovic can do about it, even if he was at his best (which he isn't).

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 09-06-08, 10:53 AM

....and there's the answer: he can't keep it up. Djoko now a little less lethargic as well.

Personally a bit split: my bank balance wants a Djokovic win, but I much prefer Federer's style and tennis elegance.