The official lets go Sam Querrey thread!

**hoopster42** · 09-01-08, 02:57 PM

dude, i wagered against my boy rafa to win the tourney (-155 on no, Nadal will not win the us open vs the field), but i'd like to see him advance a little further, so i hope this thread gains no steam, sir!

**InTheHole** · 09-01-08, 03:01 PM

Close one!

**Boner_18** · 09-01-08, 03:05 PM

Yeah Rafa looks pretty rattled...

**hoopster42** · 09-01-08, 03:05 PM

if sam loses this tiebreaker, the match is as good as over

**hoopster42** · 09-01-08, 03:06 PM

this match is over boys

**vanman** · 09-01-08, 03:30 PM

The kids not done yet.

**Boner_18** · 09-01-08, 03:32 PM

Now he is done... It was a good match to watch tho.

**vanman** · 09-01-08, 03:33 PM

Spoke to soon.

**hoopster42** · 09-01-08, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by vanman

Spoke to soon.

no i didnt, the match was over figuratively not literally, the moment querrey lost the 3rd set, dont be fooled by some dramatic moments in the 4th set when querrey is down 2-4 and getting break pts, nadal had this match won when he went up 2 sets to 1,

**hoopster42** · 09-01-08, 03:50 PM

some ppl in this thread are a little naive about tennis........when the 51st player in the world has a chance to go up 2 sets to 1 over the #1 player in the world, but loses the set and actually goes down 2 sets to 1 himself, the match is OVER, its psychological more than anything else,

tennis 101 ppl

**daggerkobe** · 09-01-08, 03:50 PM

Nadal had this match won even before they laced up their sneakers.

**vanman** · 09-01-08, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by hoopster42

no i didnt, the match was over figuratively not literally, the moment querrey lost the 3rd set, dont be fooled by some dramatic moments in the 4th set when querrey is down 2-4 and getting break pts, nadal had this match won when he went up 2 sets to 1,

I was refering to my own previous post actually.

**hoopster42** · 09-01-08, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by vanman

I was refering to my own previous post actually.

well, then let me respond to your post "the kids not done yet"

he was absolutely positively done when he lost the 3rd set. perhaps at indian wells in a tourney no one cares about, he might catch the #1 player napping after being up 2-1, but not at the us open, at the us open, the #1 player mr. nadal goes for the jugular, which is what you just saw happen

if you dont know this, you dont know tennis

**vanman** · 09-01-08, 04:09 PM

So what your saying is that even though it`s plainly obvious that Nadal is going to win,which it was to me also that i can`t hope that the underdog(querrey)might somehow come again and take him all the way.
Don`t you ever cheer on an underdog.?

**EaglesPhan36** · 09-01-08, 04:21 PM

Great tournament for Querrey. Too bad he can't find this sort of game consistently.

**hoopster42** · 09-01-08, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by vanman

So what your saying is that even though it`s plainly obvious that Nadal is going to win,which it was to me also that i can`t hope that the underdog(querrey)might somehow come again and take him all the way.
Don`t you ever cheer on an underdog.?

yrs ago, i used to root for underdogs blindly, then i matured sports-wise and realized that the true great moments in sports are when greatness and dynasties occur,

if federer and nadal had been beaten before the wimbledon final, we would not have gotten what is being called the greatest tennis match in the history of the sport that took place on july 6, 2008

so no, i did not want querrey to beat nadal, because querrey is not a champion right now, nadal is, i wana see the #1 and #2 players in the world play in the final, mr. nadal and mr. federer, and then i want mr. federer to win

i want greatness in big matches, not mediocrity or above average-ness who scored an upset to get there

some of the greatest games in the ncaa mens basketball tourney have occurred these past 2 yrs when the upsets have been few and far between, when the better players and teams advance in sports, the better the games get in the end

youll come around in due time, ive been a diehard fan of sports for over 20 yrs, it took me a while to figure it out but i finally did

**hoopster42** · 09-01-08, 04:36 PM

#1 kansas beats #1 memphis in one of the best games in ncaa basketball history in '08,

in '06, george mason the cinderella goes to the final 4 and gets run off the court by florida in the semifinal

see the difference?

cinderella upsets provide enjoyment for a few moments, while greatness advancing gives great moments time and time again

now go root for djokovic and federer to lose so the rest of the us open sucks, LOL

**daggerkobe** · 09-01-08, 04:39 PM

**jon13009** · 09-02-08, 06:51 AM

Looking at Querrey you have to wonder why this kid does not serve and volley. As you watch players bunt Querry's serve back, -and watch as Querry loses in a long rally- it is a bit puzziling IMO. Looking at the touch Querry appears to have at net (after decent appraches) , if Querry knew how to serve and volley, Querry's service points would be over rather quick - saving some energy versus sitting there and grinding out long rallies. You could say the same about Roddick, except Roddick has hands of stone, no concept of a decent approach shot, and a mind of mush to match.

In fact, it is evident that no one serves and volleys in the game anymore.

I remember Sampras saying at one point in his career that he changed his game to serve and volley because he wanted to win Wimbledon, and, at that time, Wimbledon's courts were lightning fast.

Now with Wimbledon's courts slower than the US Open's courts, - and with baseliners winning Wimbledon now - serve and volley is becoming a lost art, and apparently no one in the US player development programs knows (or wants?) how to teach these guys how to do it. McEnroe and Sampras were the last great US serve and volleyers, but most players these days want to follow Agassi's example of power tennis.

The only other reason I see is that the player's returns have gotten too good (or perhaps the serves are too fast - not allowing players to get there in time?) , and people are wary about going up there after a first serve. Otherwise, it is just that players don't know how to move forward properly after they hit a well placed first serve.