djokovic underdog at french final if it happens?

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  • reformed
    SBR MVP
    • 11-18-10
    • 1384

    #1
    djokovic underdog at french final if it happens?
    At some point the books must realize there is a changing of the guard...
  • ha1ogen
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 06-16-10
    • 528

    #2
    until he starts losing, djokovic should be considered a favourite against anyone on any surface
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    • and24
      SBR Sharp
      • 11-11-10
      • 334

      #3
      if nadal reaches out to roland garros final, djoko will probably be underdog again which i would like it to happen.
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      • noober
        SBR MVP
        • 10-23-09
        • 2012

        #4
        in a best of five match on clay i would give rafa a slight edge
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        • reformed
          SBR MVP
          • 11-18-10
          • 1384

          #5
          nadal +100 joker +160 for french
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          • yisman
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 09-01-08
            • 75682

            #6
            Nadal will be favored again if it happens.
            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
            [/quote]

            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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            • gators0708
              SBR MVP
              • 10-07-10
              • 2318

              #7
              Joker would be small dog i think
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              • erkanua
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 10-18-10
                • 773

                #8
                it will depends on their performances during the tournement..
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                • Stacocakes
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 04-10-08
                  • 7126

                  #9
                  Perfect time to get Rafa outrights for the French Open. Can get him at even money now
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                  • shari91
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 02-23-10
                    • 32661

                    #10
                    Too hard to say what the odds will be. Depends what their draw is and how they both perform throughout the tournament. Books obviously pay much more attention to the lines they hang for Slams as everyone and their dog comes out to bet them so they'll be sharper, regardless.
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                    • BrianLaverty
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-02-07
                      • 2183

                      #11
                      Nadal will NOT be an underdog on clay.. (at least not in the next 3-4 years)
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                      • JBT
                        Restricted User
                        • 06-26-10
                        • 1819

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BrianLaverty
                        Nadal will NOT be an underdog on clay.. (at least not in the next 3-4 years)
                        Not if he continues losing to Djokovic...
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                        • yisman
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 09-01-08
                          • 75682

                          #13
                          Correct, if it continues, he will eventually be an underdog on clay, but not yet.

                          I am willing to bet Nadal will be favored in every French Open match he's in.
                          [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                          [/quote]

                          [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                          • JBT
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                            • 06-26-10
                            • 1819

                            #14
                            Originally posted by yisman
                            Correct, if it continues, he will eventually be an underdog on clay, but not yet.

                            I am willing to bet Nadal will be favored in every French Open match he's in.
                            Do you expect Nadal to beat Djokovic and win Roland Garros 2011? Assuming they meet in the finals of course, which is very likely.
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                            • yisman
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 09-01-08
                              • 75682

                              #15
                              Very likely? I know how it's gone in the recent tournaments, but I'd bet against the matchup occurring.

                              As for who will win, I don't know. I've only been betting on them when I can get good + odds, because it can go either way. Djokovic is very capable of beating Nadal. Unfortunately, the market will adjust and you're not getting +180 on Djokovic if it happens at RG.
                              [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                              [/quote]

                              [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                              • JBT
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                                • 06-26-10
                                • 1819

                                #16
                                My bad, it's just my opinion, seeing as Djokovic must realize this is his best chance to end Nadals French Open reign, while Nadal will surely come to the tournament as motivated as ever. Who are the main contenders you have in mind that could potentially eliminate either of them from reaching the finals?

                                PS: I take it you don't see enough value in taking Djokovic French Open future @ +275?
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                                • barcelonafc
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 02-16-11
                                  • 428

                                  #17
                                  the joker has demolished nadal in there last 2 clay meetings, if joker plays the same nadal has no answer !!!
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                                  • yisman
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 09-01-08
                                    • 75682

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by JBT
                                    My bad, it's just my opinion, seeing as Djokovic must realize this is his best chance to end Nadals French Open reign, while Nadal will surely come to the tournament as motivated as ever. Who are the main contenders you have in mind that could potentially eliminate either of them from reaching the finals?

                                    PS: I take it you don't see enough value in taking Djokovic French Open future @ +275?
                                    No, I definitely wouldn't bet that.

                                    As for the contenders, those two are clearly the two best in clay in the world, but the usual suspects:

                                    Ferrer, Del Potro (if he's fit), Soderling, Almagro, and Berdych.
                                    [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                    [/quote]

                                    [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                    • JBT
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 06-26-10
                                      • 1819

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by yisman
                                      No, I definitely wouldn't bet that.

                                      As for the contenders, those two are clearly the two best in clay in the world, but the usual suspects:

                                      Ferrer, Del Potro (if he's fit), Soderling, Almagro, and Berdych.
                                      Alright, thanks for your thoughts man. I put something on the Djokovic future anyway, because I most likely won't be able to get him at + points until the finals (if he makes it) and even then it likely won't be even close to these odds.

                                      PS: I thought Del Potro already pulled out of the tournament, but apparently he's just questionable...
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                                      • reformed
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-18-10
                                        • 1384

                                        #20
                                        honestly none of those guys you mentioned have much of a chance against nadal and especially djokovic in a best of 5 set match on clay. Fatigue will also not be a factor like it was in rome coming off madrid since now they have a week or more off. I mean cmon...joker just murdered soderling and berdych couldnt even beat gasquet. Del potro has not beaten anyone good on clay. ferrer has taken a set off joker and no sets off nadal. I just dont see it, and I know for a fact murray doesnt have what it takes to win 5 set matches against the elite so that leaves nobody.
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                                        • yisman
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 09-01-08
                                          • 75682

                                          #21
                                          Yes they do.

                                          I'm perfectly willing to bet against that final occurring.
                                          [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                          [/quote]

                                          [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                          • JBT
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                                            • 06-26-10
                                            • 1819

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by yisman
                                            Yes they do.

                                            I'm perfectly willing to bet against that final occurring.
                                            Is it the best of 5 rule that makes you think this tournament will be different than the last few?
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                                            • aca
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-20-06
                                              • 2111

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by erkanua
                                              it will depends on their performances during the tournement..
                                              Sharp post! Fully agree!
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