Dolgopolov Fixing another match?????

**JNic** · 10-13-10, 12:38 AM

haha its actually pretty funny though. i mean he may not fix that many matches but this rep he has is horrible and his results are really fvcking weird

**nulldah** · 10-13-10, 12:39 AM

well, if he can avoid spotlight from major european bookies, he probably will get off the hook again.

It's based on my memory seeing two different case of such things. One, Davydenko, few years back, he was investigated after BetFair (if not mistaken) notice huge money come on his opp prior the match. Then there's Hanescu, which never being investigated or whatever, but I remembered there was a time he's losing like 7 or 8 consecutive times as moderate to big fav.

**Mikail** · 10-13-10, 12:40 AM

Total bullsh*t. this kind of activity is rampant in tennis betting. I am down over 1k from the china open.

**Goat Milk** · 10-13-10, 12:44 AM

i didn't bet this match mikail i'm just saying this is routine for dolgopolov this past year

oh and dolgo loses the first set 6-1

nulldah its not really about the books i'm saying atp should investigate this guy because he loses all his first sets this past year 6-1 then goes on to even win in 3 or battle very hard in the second.

**Mikail** · 10-13-10, 12:47 AM

Good call on the 1st set. I really need a live betting out for tennis. Sucks being in the U.S

**nulldah** · 10-13-10, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by Mikail

Total bullsh*t. this kind of activity is rampant in tennis betting. I am down over 1k from the china open.

err.. I've been only betting tennis for ~1.5 years, but I can say tennis is least fixed sports on level with major european soccer leagues.

You can look at top100 wta n atp players and try to give me at least 5 players that can be proven fixing the match. Remember I say fix, not tanking, tired, fresh from injury, weather, day/night, court comfort etc factor that affect losing the match.

This is because major spotlight of media or atp/wta themselfves on these players when they're found fixing that can affect their careers, imo.

**Mikail** · 10-13-10, 12:54 AM

Originally posted by nulldah

err.. I've been only betting tennis for ~1.5 years, but I can say tennis is least fixed sports on level with major european soccer leagues.

You can look at top100 wta n atp players and try to give me at least 5 players that can be proven fixing the match. Remember I say fix, not tanking, tired, fresh from injury, weather, day/night, court comfort etc factor that affect losing the match.

This is because major spotlight of media or atp/wta themselfves on these players when they're found fixing that can affect their careers, imo.

I can't argue this as I am not really one to bet soccor matches but I'm sure it is rampant there as well.

**nulldah** · 10-13-10, 12:59 AM

Originally posted by Mikail

I can't argue this as I am not really one to bet soccor matches but I'm sure it is rampant there as well.

ok, how bout this

from the most fix to least fix:
1. nba
2. mlb
3. soccer
4. tennis

**Mikail** · 10-13-10, 01:01 AM

Originally posted by nulldah

ok, how bout this

from the most fix to least fix:
1. nba
2. mlb
3. soccer
4. tennis

that looks right to me.

**Goat Milk** · 10-13-10, 01:09 AM

Originally posted by nulldah

ok, how bout this

from the most fix to least fix:
1. nba
2. mlb
3. soccer
4. tennis

nba totals are fixed, sides are not easy to fix no matter what people think.

anyway Dolgo cashed his 1st set bet now it looks like hes gonna win the second set and force a third or at least force a tiebreaker in the 2nd

told you guys

**Mikail** · 10-13-10, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

nba totals are fixed, sides are not easy to fix no matter what people think.

anyway Dolgo cashed his 1st set bet now it looks like hes gonna win the second set and force a third or at least force a tiebreaker in the 2nd

told you guys

Yeah totals are mostly fixed in NBA but they fix sides sometimes also. Especially in meaningless but highly public games.

**noober** · 10-13-10, 01:16 AM

last week his match against ljubicic was an obvious fix. ban him!!!

**Goat Milk** · 10-13-10, 01:19 AM

unfukking believable. dolgo wins the second set 7-5.

I wish I was outside the states I would clean up with live betting at sbobet or betfiar

**Mikail** · 10-13-10, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

unfukking believable. dolgo wins the second set 7-5.

I wish I was outside the states I would clean up with live betting at sbobet or betfiar

Bet365, Bwin the list goes on and on but U.S players don't get none.

**yisman** · 10-13-10, 01:39 AM

I don't understand why there hasn't been a major investigation of him yet.

He's pulling the kind of stunts Davydenko used to pull, and he's even more brazen about it.

There's shady stuff going on with so many of Dolgopolov's matches. It's incredible.

**yisman** · 10-13-10, 01:42 AM

Originally posted by nulldah

ok, how bout this

from the most fix to least fix:
1. nba
2. mlb
3. soccer
4. tennis

1. tennis
2. soccer
3. american sports

Tennis gets more fixes because it's an individual sport. Add Eastern Europeans to the mix and you have the perfect storm.

Soccer is sometimes fixed, but almost never in the top leagues, unless you consider end of the season Italian Serie A matches to be "fixes", when they're just two teams playing conservatively. Not really what people would call a fix.

American major sports are very rarely fixed, because it's simply a lot harder to get away with it here. The secret would never stay hidden.

On SBR, some people like to claim American sports are always fixed, because it's easier to lay the blame elsewhere. There would be more talk about soccer, but since this is an American forum, football, basketball, and baseball are what get the attention and the most cries of "FIXED!"

**Mikail** · 10-13-10, 01:49 AM

Originally posted by yisman

1. tennis
2. soccer
3. american sports

Tennis gets more fixes because it's an individual sport. Add Eastern Europeans to the mix and you have the perfect storm.

Soccer is sometimes fixed, but almost never in the top leagues, unless you consider end of the season Italian Serie A matches to be "fixes", when they're just two teams playing conservatively. Not really what people would call a fix.

American major sports are very rarely fixed, because it's simply a lot harder to get away with it here. The secret would never stay hidden.

On SBR, some people like to claim American sports are always fixed, because it's easier to lay the blame elsewhere. There would be more talk about soccer, but since this is an American forum, football, basketball, and baseball are what get the attention and the most cries of "FIXED!"

I disagree Yisman. I am convinced that american sports are fixed quite often.

**yisman** · 10-13-10, 01:49 AM

You probably shouldn't be betting them, in that case.

The fact is that it would be incredible difficult to fix the winner of an American sports game without word getting out.

OTOH, tennis is a piece of cake. The only risk there is that a high profile book or exchange will shut down wagers on a match, which would make the news.

**Mikail** · 10-13-10, 01:52 AM

Originally posted by yisman

You probably shouldn't be betting them, in that case.

The fact is that it would be incredible difficult to fix the winner of an American sports game without word getting out.

OTOH, tennis is a piece of cake. The only risk there is that a high profile book or exchange will shut down wagers on a match, which would make the news.

I bet them all the time and for the most part I am + barring a few losing streaks here and there. I just factor this in when capping.

**Goat Milk** · 10-13-10, 02:08 AM

I agree with Yisman because American sports are so widely televised and every event being watched by tens of thousands of fans whereas tennis matches all an athlete does is bet on the opposing player at decent odds and thats all there is to it. No one else has control over teh situation. But american sports obvioulsy fixed they just need to be a lot more careful

I can't believe this guy is not getting investigated it is absolutely unreal. i remember davydenko doing it sometimes and if you watch tennis a lot you know how he acts like hes trying real hard but you really know whats up.

but dolgopolov doesn't even act the guy straight up doesn't think people notice or something? the biggest one was the movement when he played pryz the german a few months back and line moved like 200 cents or more on betfair and it looked like a lot of money came in on him winning the first set sure enough dolgo got crushed the first set, even foot faulting multiple times.

then during the intermission, his boys went and bet on him to win the match live at probably +1500 or more and he ends up winning the next two sets.

**Mikail** · 10-13-10, 02:10 AM

Goatmilk don't you agree that americans who play offshore are at a disadvantage because our live betting options are limited?

**Goat Milk** · 10-13-10, 02:23 AM

Originally posted by Mikail

Goatmilk don't you agree that americans who play offshore are at a disadvantage because our live betting options are limited?

for sure man whoever can establish something like that here would do very well if they knew what they were doing and could get around it.

**Mikail** · 10-13-10, 02:24 AM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

for sure man whoever can establish something like that here would do very well if they knew what they were doing and could get around it.

Yeah for now the only option is having a beard outside of the U.S

**nulldah** · 10-13-10, 02:32 AM

Originally posted by yisman

1. tennis
2. soccer
3. american sports

Tennis gets more fixes because it's an individual sport. Add Eastern Europeans to the mix and you have the perfect storm.

Soccer is sometimes fixed, but almost never in the top leagues, unless you consider end of the season Italian Serie A matches to be "fixes", when they're just two teams playing conservatively. Not really what people would call a fix.

American major sports are very rarely fixed, because it's simply a lot harder to get away with it here. The secret would never stay hidden.

On SBR, some people like to claim American sports are always fixed, because it's easier to lay the blame elsewhere. There would be more talk about soccer, but since this is an American forum, football, basketball, and baseball are what get the attention and the most cries of "FIXED!"

those statements just mean we have different view. For me, it's the other way. Harder to get away in european soccer n tennis than american sports.

You can keep agreeing your ideas n I can keep agreeing mine

. Coz For me, bettor that like to rely on stats n matchup (not line movement guy), I can survive betting european soccer n tennis year with plus (not much) or less losing. But, the same strategy I applied to nba (I dont know much about nfl/nhl coz I never played those sports) will not work. The only thing I do to minimize the damage is make smaller units.

And here is my argument or my reasoning, in major soccer leagues, it's too difficult for player to fix the match coz it's 22 player match. you make a mistake doesn't mean your opponet will make use of it, not to mention being dropped to bench. Then being spotlight in the media and banned for years from soccer is never good idea. From referee, missed calls are often coz of no action replay, but excessive and obvious bad call can make those old men to lower league n suddenly major spotlight of media (worse, you even can get the spotlight when you referee big team match n grumpies men like ferguson does not like your refereeing) Then in tennis, I'm talking about atp/wta level btw, it's really difficult to be involved in fixing unless you're involved in some syndicates. Why? you keep moving here and there each week for each different tours and you will stay at some place that prob wont have safe internet/phone for you to communicate. Then, you also can't put big money coz tennis is not major betting sport and be suspicious on the european bookies.

While for basketball, a referee alone can fix the totals, in this case, by calling many fouls. Fouls involved free throws n less physical play by teams which means weaker defense. Then for nba, you get the garbage time when teams can make some unreasonable play (I'm not talking bout missed free throw) and ruin your spread. And the amazing thing, I seldom hear the commentator reasoning the play nor do I can find the reason of the play aside for "fulfilling" the spread.

For mlb, I really like to bet on it (although not late season

). I dont even need to think about the fixing, coz the fact, it's hard to fix it. You can't keep calling ball if that ball is throw exact at the middle. For base umpire, there's no much close call, so effort to try to miss calls are just wasteful. For a player, do you really want to fix the match when you need to put effort at least 2-3 years in minor league before you go to major? If there is, I really want to meet such person

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 10-13-10, 05:04 AM

Tennis fixing is always visible in the markets, the fix money swamps the rest.

For example, when Dolgo played Petzschner, he sold the first set - on betfair there were huge amounts matched on Petzschner to win the opener, down to something silly like 1.10, yet main odds were much higher. Surprise surprise, Petzschner wins the opener, loses the other two.

**AbleFollow** · 10-13-10, 08:57 AM

actually there a lot of players that fix matches.. a lot of post soviet tennesists are among them

**yisman** · 10-13-10, 01:03 PM

I think there are other players who maybe sometimes fix matches, but with Dolgopolov the frequency of shady stuff going on is so much higher.

It's also pretty stupid of him to think he can get away with this.

nulldah, tennis is a lot easier to fix than any major American sport, and that's a fact.

**rumple** · 10-14-10, 04:32 AM

He lost, was this matched still fixed?????

**AbleFollow** · 10-14-10, 04:49 AM

oh yeah.. after bet fair appears the matches are unpredictable sometimes