Is it true ATP is the easiest way to make money?

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  • D3 Mighty Ducks
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-17-09
    • 11939

    #1
    Is it true ATP is the easiest way to make money?
    If it is then I think I'm going to deposit of a big amount on to my book and ride some favorites. Fukk betting MLB baseball in the summer that crap is terrible
  • newjerseydevils
    SBR MVP
    • 03-11-08
    • 3110

    #2
    no...atp tennis is a grind...a lot of upsets all the time
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    • Cappinpicks
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-11-10
      • 14986

      #3
      have fun losing 50% of the huge favorites, this shit is a coin flip every time
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      • zafzaf
        SBR Sharp
        • 09-06-09
        • 457

        #4
        No way you can profit in tennis with playing favs IMO
        Tennis Record

        27-33 +8.9
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        • noober
          SBR MVP
          • 10-23-09
          • 2012

          #5
          short answer: no
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          • PetrGasparik
            SBR Sharp
            • 05-19-10
            • 278

            #6
            it may be easiest way to make money as well as to lose them
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            • JNic
              SBR MVP
              • 01-03-10
              • 4272

              #7
              it's also really hard to read motivation in all the small tournaments
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              • HeeeHAWWWW
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 06-13-08
                • 5487

                #8
                If you're seeing lots of "upsets", you're not looking at enough factors. Over last 6 years from pinnacle, atp favs won 11999/17385, with flat stakes a loss of 1.5%.

                That's pretty much exactly pinnacle juice, so on average odds are spot on. Profit comes in the outliers.
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                • D3 Mighty Ducks
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-17-09
                  • 11939

                  #9
                  Ok thanks guys. A buddy of mine has been betting tennis womens and mens and he was telling me ATP is his easiest way to make money. He knows his tennis inside and out and he doesn't bet huge favortives all the time. I'll probably just stay away from this sport completely.
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                  • zsuzsa23
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 07-17-10
                    • 4

                    #10
                    Tennis can be more profitable with trading but then you should follow the games in-play.
                    For example it is a good strategy backing the favourite after he lost the first set
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                    • zsuzsa23
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 07-17-10
                      • 4

                      #11
                      Trading can be a profitable option but in this case you have to follow the games in-play
                      One of the best known strategies is backing the favourite after he loses the first set
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                      • MUHerd37
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 10-23-09
                        • 12816

                        #12
                        You just have to be selective. You can't ride the huge favorites the whole tournament. You just have to be selective on who you play and when you are playing them. What surface they are playing on can also have a big effect.
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                        • beefcake
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-26-09
                          • 14029

                          #13
                          Herd who is your avatar? Ive always wanted to know..
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                          • MUHerd37
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 10-23-09
                            • 12816

                            #14
                            Originally posted by beefcake
                            Herd who is your avatar? Ive always wanted to know..
                            Allison Stokke is her name
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                            • Goat Milk
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 03-24-10
                              • 25850

                              #15
                              stay away from wta!
                              Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                              • whitedogau
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 04-16-10
                                • 621

                                #16
                                unless you like making donations all the time, the wta is a joke
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                                • HeeeHAWWWW
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 06-13-08
                                  • 5487

                                  #17
                                  It's like any other sport: generalisations don't work long term, because the market absorbs that knowledge into default prices.
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                                  • cornhuskfan
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 03-22-10
                                    • 163

                                    #18
                                    momentum of players and heads up stats ecspecially return stats and second serve points won will give you
                                    a lot of value on underdogs but stay away from betting heavy faves
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                                    • beefcake
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 11-26-09
                                      • 14029

                                      #19
                                      Totals man
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                                      • LT Profits
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-27-06
                                        • 90963

                                        #20
                                        I actually do think Tennis, both Men's and Women's, is easier to beat than most major sports, but I think your idea of betting favorites is totally wrong. Like any sport, key is always line value, which usually means dogs, and the best time to find quality tennis dogs is in the early rounds of tournaments.
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                                        • ji03
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 06-27-09
                                          • 1144

                                          #21
                                          I agree with LT. I think underdogs win most often in tennis than other sports.
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                                          • Fthenorm
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 10-20-07
                                            • 712

                                            #22
                                            agree, definitely not easy and dogs are the way to go...tennisinsight.com offers substantial information at a glance
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                                            • Foggy
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 05-07-10
                                              • 664

                                              #23
                                              but you have to pay for tennisinsight right? I use http://tennis.matchstat.com/BetRating/
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                                              • solepride
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 10-22-09
                                                • 108

                                                #24
                                                play dogs like others say but make sure to find out the rules on grading bets as retirements as such so you don't get your hopes up high when the situtaion arises.
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                                                • PetrGasparik
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 05-19-10
                                                  • 278

                                                  #25
                                                  Yeah, the selection is the way
                                                  like, f.e., betting on aspiring +200 dog and in live betting, when he wins first set, bet on fav.
                                                  Because there is probability he lose.
                                                  Or betting on over/win 1 set.

                                                  Just make your system
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                                                  • Sunde91
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 11-26-09
                                                    • 8325

                                                    #26
                                                    You will get buried in a heartbeat betting huge favs in this sport, especially if you don't know it (happened to me).

                                                    Big favs lose at an ungodly rate.
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                                                    • raydog
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 11-07-07
                                                      • 6984

                                                      #27
                                                      i would say that after the wc, most would say soccer is easier to beat than tennis
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388179

                                                        #28
                                                        You really need to know the tour and do your homework and study player matchups

                                                        You can never make really good money though because tennis has the lowest limits out of any sport
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                                                        • noober
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 10-23-09
                                                          • 2012

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                                          You really need to know the tour and do your homework and study player matchups

                                                          You can never make really good money though because tennis has the lowest limits out of any sport
                                                          u can put ton of money on live betting as the odds change after every single point so limits is not really an issue with tennis.
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                                                          • Daveyboy
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 05-12-10
                                                            • 1317

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by PetrGasparik
                                                            Yeah, the selection is the way
                                                            like, f.e., betting on aspiring +200 dog and in live betting, when he wins first set, bet on fav.
                                                            Because there is probability he lose.
                                                            Or betting on over/win 1 set.

                                                            Just make your system
                                                            Where do you bet to win 1 set?

                                                            My advice to all kinds of betting: Never take below 1/3 odds - not worth the risk.
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388179

                                                              #31
                                                              If you bet tennis you need Euro books or you might as well not even bet it

                                                              American books your luck to bet $100 per match with no live betting
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                                                              • noober
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 10-23-09
                                                                • 2012

                                                                #32
                                                                yeah, euro books is the way to go for tennis.
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                                                                • venhitman
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 03-02-10
                                                                  • 200

                                                                  #33
                                                                  re

                                                                  against the favourites on single betsbut select the matches
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                                                                  • ngates815
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 12-01-09
                                                                    • 13845

                                                                    #34
                                                                    will be alot tougher than you think....-600's it seems lose quite often....If that weren't the case everyone would be hammering the -600 - -1000 all the time, and just hoping to get 6-8 in a row, then if they lose it's all profit. Not that simple.
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                                                                    • Boner_18
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 08-24-08
                                                                      • 8301

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Heeehaww is spot on. Don't approach as faves vs. dogs. Just do you homework every day, know what line you are looking for and be selective. In short, it's the same amount of work mastering handicapping in any sport.
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