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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    It does not matter if aliens kidnap him. All bets are action.


    For PR reasons books will often void bets in high profile situations like this for the marketing value, but no reason they should have to.
    The all bets are action argument is not persuasive here. I'd the player I not allowed to compete even though they are ready and willing, then it's Important to void the bet. If a tourney is cancelled the futures wagers should clearly be cancelled, since the player has no opportunity to compete.

    If a third part intervenes to not allow a player or team to compete that should good the bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post

    The all bets are action argument is not persuasive here. I'd the player I not allowed to compete even though they are ready and willing, then it's Important to void the bet. If a tourney is cancelled the futures wagers should clearly be cancelled, since the player has no opportunity to compete.

    If a third part intervenes to not allow a player or team to compete that should good the bet.
    There is a process to get your opinion heard by the GCB.

    Email support@pa.unibet.com , mention you wish to lodge a dispute, and explain the problem.

    If they can not come to agreement with you, ask them for a Complaint Reference # so you can ask the Pa regulator for their opinion.

    Then fill out this form https://gamingcontrolboard.pa.gov/?p=106


    If you want things to change for the future, it's worth the effort.

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    Unibet is small like I said in USA

    They need the money

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    The all bets are action argument is not persuasive here. I'd the player I not allowed to compete even though they are ready and willing, then it's Important to void the bet. If a tourney is cancelled the futures wagers should clearly be cancelled, since the player has no opportunity to compete.

    If a third part intervenes to not allow a player or team to compete that should good the bet.
    settle down Beavis…

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitterd View Post
    Honestly, I’m in pa and never heard of Unibet. Is that book inside a wawa?
    7-11

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    Quote Originally Posted by cecil127 View Post
    settle down Beavis…
    Stop talking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    There is a process to get your opinion heard by the GCB.

    Email support@pa.unibet.com , mention you wish to lodge a dispute, and explain the problem.

    If they can not come to agreement with you, ask them for a Complaint Reference # so you can ask the Pa regulator for their opinion.

    Then fill out this form https://gamingcontrolboard.pa.gov/?p=106


    If you want things to change for the future, it's worth the effort.
    I said twice in this thread unibet informed me my bet would be refunded
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    OK threat over

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    Nice

    Hotdogs in a casino for breakfast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    OK threat over
    Morino is always a threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    If the player is not allowed to pw form because a third party intervenes than the all action clause should become mute. Djokavic did not withdraw, he was never given the chance to participate
    This is your opinion, but it's a rule you're making up in your head. When you bet on a future, you are assuming all sorts of risks which might cause your chosen horse to not participate, including government action. We just don't think about the latter because it's so rare that it's not worth thinking about. I'd wager that if you had bet a "Djokovic NOT to win Australian Open" future, your biases would be swaying your opinion in the exact opposite direction here.

    If they refunded you as a courtesy, that's awesome man. Congrats on gaining an edge you shouldn't have.
    Last edited by DontTailMe; 01-19-22 at 06:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    This is your opinion, but it's a rule you're making up in your head. When you bet on a future, you are assuming all sorts of risks which might cause your chosen horse to not participate, including government action. We just don't think about the latter because it's so rare that it's not worth thinking about. I'd wager that if you had bet a "Djokovic NOT to win Australian Open" future, your biases would be swaying your opinion in the exact opposite direction here.

    If they refunded you as a courtesy, that's awesome man. Congrats on gaining an edge you shouldn't have.
    No, as I said, I think all futures wagers should be refunded in this extenuating circumstance. Again, if a player is now allowed to compete, they don't voluntarily withdraw, the all bets have action clause should not apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Unibet is small like I said in USA

    They need the money
    hes a small player no worries

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    I am not really hearing anybody here feeling bad for Djokovik? Any other players get kicked out or was he the only one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonegambler23 View Post
    hes a small player no worries
    You are unintelligent

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    You are unintelligent

    youre down 100+k

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonegambler23 View Post
    youre down 100+k
    Wrong, you are unintelligent.

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    Imagine arguing over $10????

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    -550 units

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThanksForTheFade View Post
    -550 units
    Wrong, that's not my record

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    I'm not arguing over the price to spend the night with your mom, be quiet.
    I am really surprised that someone takes you seriously and answers your questions. You are a classic cocky quarter-intelligent with a small penis. And that comment about his Mom should get you out of here forever ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kursonik View Post
    I am really surprised that someone takes you seriously and answers your questions. You are a classic cocky quarter-intelligent with a small penis. And that comment about his Mom should get you out of here forever ...
    MODS just delete his trash now. Secretly they all fade him. What can you do?

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    Is the sportsbook based in "deleware county?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    If the player is not allowed to pw form because a third party intervenes than the all action clause should become mute. Djokavic did not withdraw, he was never given the chance to participate
    Is this Djokavic guy related to Novak Djokovic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    No you haven't, be quiet. He was kicked out by the Australian government. This has never happened before. Its clearly an extenuating circumstance. He didn't withdraw, he got kicked out of the country.
    As someone else said, the reason why he is not playing is irrelevant...whether from their angle or ours (that we have all been there), it is the same. I was going to offer you my apologies, but your tude can't allow for it.
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    1. If they did in fact refund you, which I don’t believe, they probably figured you are a loser and will just lose it back anyways.

    2. you started a thread about how they refuse to refund you, you get some criticism, you realize you are
    wrong, and then bang, 35 minutes later the book changed their mind and refunded you

    Im calling bullshIt as usual here
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    Quote Originally Posted by big joe 1212 View Post
    1. If they did in fact refund you, which I don’t believe, they probably figured you are a loser and will just lose it back anyways.

    2. you started a thread about how they refuse to refund you, you get some criticism, you realize you are
    wrong, and then bang, 35 minutes later the book changed their mind and refunded you

    Im calling bullshIt as usual here
    Unibet made very public they refunded these bets for everyone, not just me. You are unintelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrongside View Post
    As someone else said, the reason why he is not playing is irrelevant...whether from their angle or ours (that we have all been there), it is the same. I was going to offer you my apologies, but your tude can't allow for it.
    No it is relevant. If someone murders a player or the tournament keeps him from playing, bets should be refunded. There are exceptions to every rule. Your attitude is weak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    No it is relevant. If someone murders a player or the tournament keeps him from playing, bets should be refunded. There are exceptions to every rule. Your attitude is weak.
    You are wrong. If they refund your bet they have to cancel all the other bets on the players that are playing since their odds are not valid anymore. So if Medveveev was +400 with Djokovic playing and is now +200 with Djokovic not playing you think the book should refund your Djokovic bet and keep Medveveev +400 as was originally booked even though it is much lower now?

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    What if someone was about to play a match but then a person dressed as a banana smashed their skull in making that person believe he was Donny Osmond . Would you still get refunded and what if Donny Osmond Won would you still get paid or would they say Donny Osmond was not the original player and it would be a no play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    You are wrong. If they refund your bet they have to cancel all the other bets on the players that are playing since their odds are not valid anymore. So if Medveveev was +400 with Djokovic playing and is now +200 with Djokovic not playing you think the book should refund your Djokovic bet and keep Medveveev +400 as was originally booked even though it is much lower now?
    I said I agree that all futures bets should be cancelled and refunded, not just mine. I've said that multiple times.

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    This is crazy after DK paying out obvious line errors in live NFL for 200k a year or two ago... wow

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    Quote Originally Posted by big joe 1212 View Post
    1. If they did in fact refund you, which I don’t believe, they probably figured you are a loser and will just lose it back anyways.

    2. you started a thread about how they refuse to refund you, you get some criticism, you realize you are
    wrong, and then bang, 35 minutes later the book changed their mind and refunded you

    Im calling bullshIt as usual here
    What a smack down. Dana White didn’t even have to put it on PPV.
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