Clay Court Handicapping

**DR225** · 04-13-17, 01:39 AM

The clay season has barely even started, what tourney did those bets come from? So far we've only had one ok tourney, the Rio Open and then a bunch of 250 garbage. And this sounds obvious but you should be betting on clay courters. Guys that for the most part, are defensive baseliners that keep the rally going until they coax an error from their opponent. This is a time to ignore flashy players that ordinarily hit winner after winner in favor of guys that can just get the ball back over and over and over and over until the more talented player makes a mistake and loses his mind. This is mostly for the atp though. For the women, they will each get broken 90% of the time and the woman who gets broken once or twice less will win.

**Snowball** · 04-13-17, 05:53 PM

typically lean with the clay pedigree types
who were raised and trained to play on clay
your latin countries, spain, france, and some balkans.

**w@lt** · 04-14-17, 09:33 AM

Wow. I just saw that Genie is playing an ITF tourney...

**jtoler** · 04-14-17, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by w@lt

Wow. I just saw that Genie is playing an ITF tourney...

And barely hanging in there. Couple days ago against a player ranked 601.

Bouchard vs. Morgan 6-4, 2-6, 6-4

**jtoler** · 04-14-17, 10:27 AM

Form still gonna trump all. Stay closer to those who know how to play on it though, most Americans dont, most didnt grow up playing on real clay anyway, most dont even slide. Many foreigners consider clay real tennis, its about constructing points, opening up the court, wears on the legs, longer points. Women tennis just so much different than men's. Not much point constructing, more just hit where the person isnt. Not a whole lot of thinking either which is probably why coaches are always out on the court of course we dont see that on the men's side. Many times I see things in women's matches, less with men, that if they starting doing something different they'd have an easier time, like something simple as when its obvious a player is struggling on the backhand side and they dont keep going there or constantly having a player on the defensive, but the player is getting the ball back and the other player refuses to come to the net to finish pts off an ends up losing the point. No real clay in America that I know of, itf tourney by my house is like the others, in fact when I first went to it years ago I didnt even know it was clay, even after I left I saw I read online all the courts were clay, amazing, nothing looked or acted like clay that day not even the color.

**gorwin068** · 04-14-17, 06:17 PM

Bouchard just lost 0-6 3-6 to a #896 ranked player, although that is a player with higher ranking in the past.
Anyway Bouchard can leave this ITF US tournament with a bagel on the plane