Off-season reflections

**reedy** · 11-30-15, 09:51 AM

Nice.

I think its ok to bet WTA. Just harder to pick your spots. I'm assuming you don't like the exhibition tourneys due to effort?

I don't have a list of players i don't be on. Just players who I have to take a better look at.

This year I am going to try to stay away from marginal bets based on value. With the volume of tennis played in a year there's no reason to bet on these games.

**beefcake** · 11-30-15, 11:33 AM

1.look to back Marchenko next year. Guy is coming on strong.
2.Bet Dustin brown when he is a dog and fade him when a fav. if you had done this all year blindly you would be ahead.
3.Also Bhambri,Taro Daniel, and I think Groth will have a massive year.
4.Outside the top 100 I would say Gerasimov,Fritz

**pattymayo** · 11-30-15, 07:40 PM

personally I love betting WTA-- the volatility feeds the action junkie inside me. The chick you bet on could get bageled and then come back and win the next two sets. Or you could bet an over 20, chick gets blasted 6-1 and then down a break in the second, yet still fight back and cover. Much rarer to see that in ATP.

Lets face it, we all gamble to ideally make some extra cash, but you want some excitement too. Betting an Isner/Raonic match with tiebreaks galore and hardly even any break points is just boring as shit.

**Jeff_Black** · 11-30-15, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by reedy

Nice.

I think its ok to bet WTA. Just harder to pick your spots. I'm assuming you don't like the exhibition tourneys due to effort?

I don't have a list of players i don't be on. Just players who I have to take a better look at.

Yes it's hard to question motivation I think when it's meaningless. Besides there are tournaments going on then where there are points up for grabs so I ask myself why I bother with the exhibitions at the start of the year? Lol
Pretty sure Tomic beat Djokovic one year at the hopman cup and Kooyong. Little things like that.

as for WTA I agree, I used to do it more then I do now but I just feel like cutting down, I'd rather focus on one side then the potential value for the other. But I don't want to be a guy who's having a rough patch and then going to the unreliable women's side for a wager. If I back a male player who is solid and lets me down I can live with that.m

if I had to come up with a list of women's players, maybe five because itd be so easy not to be on it'd be...
- Samantha Stosur
- Ana Ivanovic
- Alize Cornet
- Sabine Lisicki
- Andrea Petkovic

and that took me five seconds to think of haha

**Jeff_Black** · 11-30-15, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by beefcake

1.look to back Marchenko next year. Guy is coming on strong.
2.Bet Dustin brown when he is a dog and fade him when a fav. if you had done this all year blindly you would be ahead.
3.Also Bhambri,Taro Daniel, and I think Groth will have a massive year.
4.Outside the top 100 I would say Gerasimov,Fritz

Taro Daniel has been a sleeping giant for some time but I hope he comes good and breaks into the top 100
Groth I am a bit worried about as its been quite the breakthrough but a lot has been the back of his serve and watching many of his matches I still feel he is a one dimensional player with not a lot of strings to his bow. He'll do ok but I don't think he will rise a lot higher then what he is.

**brodie** · 12-01-15, 12:12 AM

kyrgios, zverev and hyeon chung.

**Jeff_Black** · 12-01-15, 03:46 AM

Originally posted by brodie

kyrgios, zverev and hyeon chung.

Good list
Kyrgios I think will improve but he will have his shit losses which will put people off betting on him
Yeah I'd rather avoid all together

**beefcake** · 12-01-15, 08:21 AM

Chung for sure..but needs to improve serve!

**frugalgambler** · 12-01-15, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by pattymayo

personally I love betting WTA-- the volatility feeds the action junkie inside me. The chick you bet on could get bageled and then come back and win the next two sets. Or you could bet an over 20, chick gets blasted 6-1 and then down a break in the second, yet still fight back and cover. Much rarer to see that in ATP.

Lets face it, we all gamble to ideally make some extra cash, but you want some excitement too. Betting an Isner/Raonic match with tiebreaks galore and hardly even any break points is just boring as shit.

You summarized perfectly how I feel about WTA vs ATP. Non-Slam ATP is basically unwatchable, especially if no top-10 players are not involved. WTA is not that much fun either, but at least there is some excitement and I still like girls in short skirts. Plus, I think some betting patterns hold pretty well for some WTA players.

**reedy** · 12-01-15, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by Jeff_Black

Yes it's hard to question motivation I think when it's meaningless. Besides there are tournaments going on then where there are points up for grabs so I ask myself why I bother with the exhibitions at the start of the year? Lol
Pretty sure Tomic beat Djokovic one year at the hopman cup and Kooyong. Little things like that.

as for WTA I agree, I used to do it more then I do now but I just feel like cutting down, I'd rather focus on one side then the potential value for the other. But I don't want to be a guy who's having a rough patch and then going to the unreliable women's side for a wager. If I back a male player who is solid and lets me down I can live with that.m

if I had to come up with a list of women's players, maybe five because itd be so easy not to be on it'd be...
- Samantha Stosur
- Ana Ivanovic
- Alize Cornet
- Sabine Lisicki
- Andrea Petkovic

and that took me five seconds to think of haha

Interesting. Petkovic became great fade material toward the end of this year. I'll agree that both Cornet and Lisicki are tricky to bet on.

I'll second what patty and frugal said. Athletic girls in short skirts are always a plus and the shifts in WTA are what make it watchable/heart breaking.

**frugalgambler** · 12-01-15, 10:00 PM

If you pick the right spot, Cornet is an overs machine. She just cannot close out sets.

**brodie** · 12-01-15, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by beefcake

Chung for sure..but needs to improve serve!

power will come. the guy knows how to hit the ball

**brodie** · 12-01-15, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by Jeff_Black

Good list
Kyrgios I think will improve but he will have his shit losses which will put people off betting on him
Yeah I'd rather avoid all together

i think he starts the new year fresh and really tries to break through starting with his home grand slam. needs to put the past behind him and go out there and compete. he can hang with really anyone outside of nove. just hope he doesnt turn into a raonic type of player relying on his serve to stay inmatches

**tb1984** · 12-02-15, 12:06 AM

Qualifiers with + games. I think this only works outside out Slams(best of 3 sets).