Way not to hit confirm, durito
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math.com is correct. fed is done.
so sad how the dude has grown a vagina.
if he were up 2 sets to love vs. Rafa in the final.... well, we all know who would win. and the 5th set would be 6-0 rafa. just a shame
i'm really rooting for the guy.. but, seriously, he needs to lift weights and lose that blubber fat around his mid-section. he looks like Nalbandian. he could dramatically change his physique with weights and stabilize his body... instead he looks like a feeble-breasted European physicallyComment -
Nice write-up Lou, but I still don't see Roger coming through with a victory here. He's lost his fire, and now being married I expect him to continue the decline in his career as opposed to rebounding. He may pick up one more Slam title somewhere, but I'm pretty sure it won't be on clay.Originally posted by StraitShooterComment -
Vald, how does that work? I'm not following.
1 and 4 are on the same side of the draw.
2 and 3 are on the same side of the draw.
This is the case for the French and not Wimbledon. With this reasoning, Roger would not play against Djoker until the final....
Am I missing something?Comment -
Pretty sure this is the correct answer. 1 and 2 are always the opposite sides but 3 and 4 can end up on either side. 1 doesn't always end up with 4 and 2 don't always end up with 3. So whether you are rated 3 or 4 doesn't really matter. Being 1 and 2 matters though because you can't meet until the finals.Comment -
I see what you're saying... but from memory in these 128 draw tourney (slams).... the 1 and 4 is always on the opposite side of the 2 and 3.
I can understand how they play with who gets put in what number.... but from what I understand the seedings are constant in most all tourneys.
Ex:
NCAA
1-16
2-15
3-14
4-13 ... and etc
NBA
1-8
2-7
3-6 ... and etc
SLAMS
1-4 .... get paired down to this result if all players pull through
2-3 .... ditto
The reason why I keep talking about this is b/c to me it pretty much looks like this scenario for the FO:
1 Rafa
2 Fed
3 Djoker
4 Murray
This is important to me b/c I think Fed could lose to Djoker in the semis.... and I want another Rafa/Fed final ... so Fed would be better protected if he faces Murray ... if Murray makes it that farComment -
Does anyone have records for parlaying Grand Slam champions in every round, compared to their pre-tournament line to win?Comment -
I think someone went over this before in another thread.... and the long-term odds are supposed to be pretty congruent with the overall price...
... but I have no proof of that. Just read that somewhere I think.
HEE HAW: What did you think of Bjorg's assessment after the match last year.... that Fed should try to draw the match out and make it a long affair?Comment -
Seems a bit counter-intuitive tbh. The longer the rally, the more it favours the fitter guy, and the one with less UEs. Nadal wins on both counts.
Aside from that, Nadal will just relentlessly pound Federer's backhand in a long rally. That's not something Federer has ever been able to handle on high-bouncing surfaces.Comment -
No, you are incorrect. 3 and 4 have to be on opposite sides but 1 can play 3 or 4 and 2 can end up playing either as well. There is no set draw except that 1 and 2 are on opposite sides and so are 3 and 4. However 1 doesn't always play 4 and 2 don't always play 3. If you need an example use the Australian Open last year. Federer was 1 and Djokovic was 3 and they met in the semi's.Last edited by valdosta; 05-08-09, 03:48 PM.Comment -
Okay, looks like you're right.
This must be the only sport that does this.... I can't really think of another one.
What's the point of ranking the players in sequence and not putting them equal distribution... which is what most all other playoff formats do. My guess is that it's just so the tourney can pick it's own future potential matchups.
With the logic they're using (well, this year we put 3 on this side and 4 on that side and 5 on this side)... they can do whatever they want.
I guess don't really care when this concerns tennis... the only thing I want to see is Fed vs. Raf in the final.Comment -
I don't know why they do it how they do, I just know that's how it's done. In all honesty I have no interest in Federer-Nadal in the finals. It will be lopsided. I'd much rather see Djokovic play Nadal. At least he won a set from Nadal on clay this year and last year if I remember right he had a set point but blew it.Although Nadal beat them both in straight sets last year his match with Djokovic was much more competitive and Federer has only gotten worse. Last year was pathetic enough at 6-1,6-3 and 6-0.Comment -
Madrid draw is out - looks like a Nadal Djoko semi on one side. Fed has bunnies like Blake/Roddick/Davy before the semis. Murray has banana skins in Robredo then Wawrinka/DelPotro before playing Fed.Comment -
Has Fed really been that bad on clay this year, tho?
He had the marriage so you can throw out the loss to Wawrinka....
Then he has his 2nd tourney and he loses in the semis to Djoker.. but he was up a set and a break... then the rain delay. He loses the 2nd set after the rain delay.... in the 3rd he goes up a break..... but tanks it.
At least he's got ascending results... and it looks like it will crescendio (sp) with a final appearance in Madrid.
As for seeing Djoker and Rafa.... I think Djoker is an absolute punk faaggot. Can't stand that little bitch. He pounds his chest like he's got the heart of a lion... but he's as soft as they come and can't finish matches.Comment -
Regardless of Djokovic's history of quitting, he is playing the 2nd best tennis on clay right now. He has a very good game on pretty much all surfaces. He's extremely talented when he has it together. As for Federer yeah it's that bad for him on clay if you expect him to beat Nadal. Federer had never lost to Djokovic on clay before this year and in general was only losing to Nadal on the surface. Not anymore though. As for him making the semi's of the last tourney his draw was pretty weak up until Djokovic.Comment -
Won't be long till the French Open. Can't wait.Comment -
Always hard to answer anything based on Fed's masters results - he's long since ceased caring about them. Only won one in 2007, and in 08/09 he only made one final on hard/indoors. Clay has always been the exception though, as he takes a run at Roland Garros.
This year he's not even got the clay results. Goes out in the 3rd at Monte Carlo - the most important event because it's the most similar clay to Roland Garros (even though it's a lot slower due to the wet sea air). Then flops against Djoko after one good set in Rome, the exact same pattern as their Miami match.
He does have a piece of cake draw in Madrid though. Interesting potential semi vs Murray though, who's beaten him 5 times in a row now. That would be doubly important, because if Murray wins it he'll likely take number 2 after Roland Garros.Comment -
Beaten him 5 times in a row.... how embarassing.Comment -
no this time roger will win the french open.Comment -
I want to know when Mathdotcom is going to start booking any women's tennis match I want at -700 and what his limits are.Comment -
I've got a question.
If Rafa is at -360 or whatever to win the FO.... what does that break down to in the final?
He has to be a -800 or better fave in the final, wouldn't you think? I know that sounds outlandish but he was a -800 or -900 fave vs. Djoker in Rome for a best of 3-sets.Comment -
Nadal's results on clay cannot be questioned, but he's not invincible. He's susceptible to the same nerves as everybody else, despite the fact that he's been playing over his head for quite some time. He will never come close to Federer's slam count.
In fact, should they both meet in finals which I am forecasting that they do, I wouldn't be surprised if Federer took it in 4 sets.Comment -
You've really gone off your rocker on this one, Lou. Not sure why you're doing this. No disrespect.Comment -
If Crazyl had to put his job on the line for this pick, you know he would say "Just kidding" in a heartbeat.
He must be going nuts not being allowed to bet so he just makes all these crazy prognostications that lose so he feels better about not wagering.Comment -
I hope he's right.... that Nadal loses... but I don't see how it will happen.
This looks like when Fed was on top and playing his best at U.S. Open... nobody could even smell his farts. Same goes with Nadal right now... in RG.Comment -
lol
CrazyL: "Nadal has been playing over his head for quite some time now."
MoronComment -
There was a long period of time where Federer couldn't lose a tiebreak, same as Nadal, he finds ways to win the toughest and most pressure packed points- that won't continue forever. He's not the best tennis player alive, he's extremely good and a master at clay, but Federer is all around better than he is. He just needs to believe that, and play like it.Comment -
"He just needs to believe that, and play like it."
LOL. He is done.
Why not tell Nolan Ryan to come back. He is still the best pitcher alive, he just needs to believe it and play like it.
Federer at his best could not touch Nadal on clay. Now Nadal is even better, Federer is much worse, but you like this play?
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So how many units are you risking Crazyl? And will they count towards your record or will you pull the 'they werent in the official thread' or 'they were just to start discussions' excuse again?Comment -
Speaking of morons, can we start with the -700 on any women's tennis match already?lol
CrazyL: "Nadal has been playing over his head for quite some time now."
MoronComment -
come on Mathy, all in on L. Dominguez Lino +700Comment -
Bueller? ...Bueller? ...Bueller?Comment
