Giraffe Raonic

**Cessation** · 05-02-14, 09:21 AM

I had him in a parlay yesterday and same today. In hindsight it was a bad move today against Berlocq considering he was the same price as he was against Cuevas.

Broken 3 times in a row now, gay.

**matt1216** · 05-02-14, 12:29 PM

he's not a bum on clay, he didn't give a fck today... Getting ready for the French open

**rankslash** · 05-02-14, 12:43 PM

French Open is four weeks away. He gave a f*ck for sure. He is just not as good as people wanted/ing him to be. I'm watching him since 2009, guy is a top 20 player at best.

**Tmuston Beltics** · 05-02-14, 01:34 PM

No huge serve he'd be ranked outside top 50 for sure

**JC1186** · 05-02-14, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by Tmuston Beltics

No huge serve he'd be ranked outside top 50 for sure

Hahahahahaha good one.

Without his huge serve he'd be lucky to be ranked inside the top 200. In fact I would go as far as saying he'd certainly be outside the top 200.

**frugalgambler** · 05-02-14, 11:50 PM

What's the point of this discussion: he has a huge serve and that's the end of it. Sometimes, decent players have issues on clay against pure claycourt specialists like Berlocq. And Warlock is no slouch on clay. Plus, this is indeed a small tourney so his motivation to win here was questionable. If he gets beaten by a +200 dog in Madrid or Monte Carlo, then perhaps Raonic is indeed not ready for clay.

**SirtySree** · 05-03-14, 12:13 AM

Always sick of hearing how players like Isner, Anderson and Raonic are serve bots when they are clearly not. They are ranked top 20 for a reason. There are so many actual servebots out there and their rankings are all crap. (eg. Olivetti who aces ppl with his 2nd serve, Groth who serves 200+ consistently, and Herbert who has a good serve and volley game but thats about it. There are many more but thats just 3 on the top of my head).

**EaglesPhan36** · 05-03-14, 01:30 AM

Problem with the big boppers is they lack the harder work others dedicate to groundstrokes because they know serves will bail them out. When their serve is off, most of them resemble Challenger level guys. If they had half the ability/work rate of a Ferrer to go with ther serve = unstoppable.

**matt1216** · 05-03-14, 02:47 AM

Originally posted by SirtySree

Always sick of hearing how players like Isner, Anderson and Raonic are serve bots when they are clearly not. They are ranked top 20 for a reason. There are so many actual servebots out there and their rankings are all crap. (eg. Olivetti who aces ppl with his 2nd serve, Groth who serves 200+ consistently, and Herbert who has a good serve and volley game but thats about it. There are many more but thats just 3 on the top of my head).

Sirty, I fully agree.... The comments above are rediculous. It's like saying Nadal wouldn't be top 10 if he was right handed. If there's any server that should be given credit it Raonic.. The big man is one of the few guys to climb the ranks at such an age. Also his ground strokes are not that bad. There improving every tournament this year... Like I said above, Raonic just wasn't geared to go today. He will save it for the French open. I'm sorry if people lost money wagering on him today. I expected him to beat Berloc as well, we all know when Berloc is at his best, he's not easy to beat on clay

**rankslash** · 05-03-14, 11:01 AM

In my opinion, Berdych is the perfect example for a player who evolved his game. He started as a servebot too and now is an allround player. Raonic is a better version of Ivo Karlovic. That's only mine opinion of course.