Murray v Roddick Qatar Final

[TurkzZ]

Murray v Roddick Qatar Final (Saturday 9th)

Murry seems to be a clear favourite here. in my oppionion Murry has too much variation for Roddiks one sided game, however Murry does have a slight injury issue as we saw in the Federe Match, seeing as its not a grand slam he wont risk anything, ill wait to the last minutes before i bet on this one, seen what the injury situation is.

[SBR Lou]

Thanks for taking a closer look at this one.

I have no position as of right now. Glad to see you posting here man!

[Shark79]

Took Murray for the max.

Murray has encountered much better opponents in this event, therefore, his mentality should be superior.

I see Roddick blowing this one up.

[Sforz]

link to watch this online?

[Shark79]

gotta check out justin.tv

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Murray is in the top 3 best returners on tour, maybe the best, so Roddick is really in trouble against him. He should break Rod's serve repeatedly, and in rallies there's only one winner.

One problem: Murray's injury. If I bet, it'll only be at a book that voids on retiral at any stage of the match.

[Sforz]

what 'A' books do that?

[HeeeHAWWWW]

what 'A' books do that?

Maybe not all A-rated, but there are tons: eg betphoenix, DSI/bookmaker, centrebet, bodog, mansion, intertops, paddy, canbet, stanjames, willhill, etc.

See my sbr page :-)

[ZXCVBNM]

Here's a link to the match, if anyone sees this..

http://atdhe.net/live-tv-2024.html

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Lots of money piling on Murray to win the Aussie Open, odds are dropping all over the place and he's the narrow favourite now. Not that good odds now though imo.

[meganie]

Lots of money piling on Murray to win the Aussie Open, odds are dropping all over the place and he's the narrow favourite now. Not that good odds now though imo.

Not very surprising. He's not even playing 100% imo and dominating.

[meganie]

Wow. Last time I saw Roddick outplayed like that was in Davis cup against Nadal. More than solid performance by Murray.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Yeah, that was a bit scary. Key thing for me: Murray was at 70% first serve. Even 60% first serve is normally good for him - that's about the mark above which he's near certain to win a match. At 70%........

It's hard to see anyone other than Federer stopping him in Australia.

[EaglesPhan36]

Australia is always full of surprises though. If you look at the finalists over the past ten years, you usually get a suprise guy in the final. With Federer not as dominant, it'll be interesting. Definitely think your futures would be wise to go with Murray and then find some value.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

You do get some surprise finalists yeah, but the winner has never been that unpredictable recently:


2008: moderately surprise finalist Tsonga, but Djokovic the correct winner (as the best hard court player with Federer unwell)
2007: surprise finalist Gonzo, but Fed wins
2006: surprise finalist Baghdatis, but Fed wins
2005: Safin wins, but we all know how talented he is. The semi was the real final, with THAT Fed-Safin match
2004: Fed-Safin, probably the best two hardcourters are the time. Fed wins

Now it gets odd:

2003: Agassi vs.... errrm... Schuettler
2002: Safin vs..... errrrm..... Johanssson (and not Joachim!). Safin goes mental and loses.
2001: Agassi vs .... errrm .... Clement.

Before that, not so odd, winners Sampras, Becker, Courier, Lendl etc. Maybe Korda in 98 was a little strange, but the field was seriously weak that year. And he was a drugs cheat, so maybe didn't count.


Anyway, the only surprise winner imo of the above was Johansson. A fair few surprise finalists, and Johansson should really only have been in that category, but Safin can lose to anyone if something upsets him :-)

Might be with Djoko/Nadal/Fed off form, we have Murray vs a surprise finalist? Tsonga again doesn't seem that unlikely.

[ZXCVBNM]

I have followed Andy since forever, but it truly seems as if his time is over (unfortunately) - he can still dominate up to the top 5 - but once he faces them he gets outclassed. He never learned how to switch up his robotic style or do any sort of net play. He's a grinder and fights for every point, his heart is why he does so well, but his skills have not held up with the emergence of these newer top 5 players like Nadal, Djokovic, and now Murray. He was consistently reaching semis and finals before them, but after them almost never.

He also has too many lapses against lesser players in grand slams, which is why it is so disappointing to see him bomb out in the 3rd or 4th round. Cause he loses to the people he should beat, not Fed or any of the top players.


However I still hope Roddick can make runs in Australia, Wimbledon, and the Open. Good play and a bit of luck can go a very long way.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Roddick's problem is simple imo: his game was made for 90s style tennis, when courts were faster. Big serve, either an ace or an easy putaway on next shot. It's why his groundstrokes aren't weapons from the back of the court, as both forehand and backhand are developed for quick spun shots from midcourt, barely clearing the net and going to the corners. Courts like Doha he's always going to struggle against a good returner or retriever type (and Murray is both), because it's very, very slow there - he hardly got any aces today.

He has definitely improved his volleying a lot in the offseason though, and he seemed a little quciker than last year (did claim to have lowered his weight deliberately). He's probably not got much chance at slower or medium speed hard courts like the Aussie Open or Indian Wells in March, or indeed modern Wimbledon, but the US Open isn't entirely out of reach now they've speeded up the courts. Still unlikely, but it's clearly his best hope, especially with the crowd roaring him on.

[Shark79]

gotta check out justin.tv

My book balance simply increased !!

[pico]

roddick should play hansic (might spelled it wrong...he's is a giant with powerful serve). i think you'll see no return games