5dimes rep lies to me, then tries to cover it up

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  • jasper90
    SBR Rookie
    • 02-20-12
    • 29

    #1
    5dimes rep lies to me, then tries to cover it up
    I am new to 5Dimes and I noticed they had a halftime bet option for soccer. To verify, I asked the rep what it was:

    Allan: Hello. How may I assist you today?Jasper: are the soccer halftime bets for who will win the half?
    Allan: yes, 2nd half bets are only for the half, no the full game
    Jasper: ok, thank you
    Allan: You're welcome

    After the bets were graded, I inquired about it. The first guy told me the department would review it and get back to me. A few hours later, I still had no response, so I got back on the chat with a rep. This guy tells me I was wrong and that my question wasn't specific enough and that they were really full time bets.

    I have included the transcript, I usually don't rant, but I am really disappointed in their customer service telling me two different things:

    Andy: that's a general question, sir
    Andy: you were not being specific
    Andy: sorry
    Andy: Is there anything else I can assist you with?
    Jasper: how is that general, i specfically asked if the soccer halftime bets were for just the half
    Andy: yes, and you placed your bets for the full game
    Jasper: i did halftime bets though
    Andy: I don't the relation between the 2 events
    Andy: *I don't see
    Jasper: they say halftime bet
    Andy: you were asking for one thing
    Andy: and you made bets on a different thing
    Jasper: the bets say halftime on them
    ............
    Andy: you could have been asking for first half bets
    Jasper: i didnt say first half
    Jasper: I said halftime bet
    Andy: nor second half
    Andy: if you tell me halftime bet
    Andy: I would understand the first half line
    Andy: for example
    Jasper: that makes no sense, i made a bet at halftime
    Jasper: which is after the 1st half
    Andy: the fact is that you made bets for the full game
    Jasper: your guy said it was just the second half
    Andy: you placed them yourself online
    Andy: Full game soccer wagers are official on the result at full time (90 minutes of play + referee stoppage time) unless otherwise specified.
    Jasper: yes, but no where under the halftime bet did it say it was for the full game
    Jasper: which is why i asked your guy
    Jasper: and he said just second half
    Andy: that rule was readily available in our website well before you opened your account
    Jasper: so are you admitting your guy was wrong?
    Jasper: so your guy lied to me?
    Jasper: if there are no second half bets, then why would he tell me this?
    Andy: your question was not specific enough
    Jasper: i said soccer halftime....and now you say there is no such thing
    Andy: yes, I say that
    Andy: the website says that
    Andy: the tickets say that
    Jasper: so your guy was wrong?
    Andy: or better yet, the tickets don't say your bets were for any half
    Andy: what you want me to do is to tell you that you are right, so you can have an argument for dispute this further
    Andy: I cannot help you with that
    Andy: *to dispute
    Andy: you didn't ask an specific question
    Jasper: was your guy right or wrong?
    Andy: you didn't ask a specific question
    Andy: if you would have asked: do you offer second half bets on soccer?
    Andy: and he told you yes
    Andy: that's a mistake
    Andy: but you didn't ask that
    Andy: or if provide a rotation number and ask
    Jasper: yeah, I asked were the halftime bets just for the half
    Andy: is this bet for the second half or the full game?
    Andy: you could have asked that
    Andy: that's specific
    Jasper: my question is pretty specific
    Jasper: I mention the type of bet
    Jasper: then asked if it was just for the half
    Andy: no sir
    Andy: you just want to talk you way out of grading that does not benefit you
    Andy: were those winning tickets, you won't be here
    Jasper: no, i made sure i asked, before betting, because i was unsure
    Andy: that's not good faith in business
    Jasper: then your person assured me it was just second half
    Andy: the grading stands
    Andy: Can you please confirm your account number and password?
    Andy: I mean
    Andy: Is there anything else I can assist you with?
    Jasper: your guy lied to me, that is bad business
  • kmarinouofm
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-26-09
    • 8437

    #2
    a half time line is a spread or moneyline for the outcome of the entire game.. current score is factored into the price...

    and 2nd half bet.. is just that.. a bet on the 2nd half... both are different.. but seem like the same...

    5 dimes offers a lot of halftime soccer bets for major leagues..
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    • jasper90
      SBR Rookie
      • 02-20-12
      • 29

      #3
      yes, I wasn't 100% sure, so I asked him, and he told me second half bet.

      After the long convo, I realize the difference, but when I asked them they mislead me by telling me what a 2nd half bet was, and I now realize, they decided to answer my question with an answer that didn't directly relate to my question.

      I just feel this is very unfair for them to not correctly answer my question, then feel they did nothing wrong
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      • tb1984
        SBR MVP
        • 09-11-08
        • 3112

        #4
        I agree with you that the first guy was wrong and he clearly said that "2nd half bets are only for the half". 5dimes has a bad reputation with its Customer Service, so I am not surprise with Andy's attitude(which is arrogant and rude). I hope you did not lose much and consider this as lesson for betting soccer.
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        • kmarinouofm
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-26-09
          • 8437

          #5
          he might has told you a 2nd half bet is for the 2nd half... but you didn't end up betting on a 2nd half bet.. u betted on a halt time line.. as i said there is a difference..

          you asked a question about something else.. and placed a bet on a different thing..

          5 dimes really didn't do anything wrong.. now had u given the rep the rotation number of the wager you were going to make and then he gave you wrong info.. then you would have a case..

          but as it stand.. you made the wrong wager... kinda like a rookie going to the horse track ends up muffing a ticket.. you did pretty much the same thing..
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          • jasper90
            SBR Rookie
            • 02-20-12
            • 29

            #6
            Originally posted by kmarinouofm

            you asked a question about something else.. and placed a bet on a different thing..
            I asked about a halftime bet, and I made a halftime bet.


            He mislead me with his answer and yes, I realize that now, but at the time, before the bet, he definitely mislead me
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            • kmarinouofm
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-26-09
              • 8437

              #7
              Originally posted by jasper90
              I asked about a halftime bet, and I made a halftime bet.


              He mislead me with his answer and yes, I realize that now, but at the time, before the bet, he definitely mislead me

              i dont think he meant to... he isn't a linesmen and this is a bet they only really offer in soccer.. 99% of the time.. you are making a "2nd half" bet... on major sports..

              in soccer there are both 2nd half and halt time lines... they are different..

              if it was my book and it wasn't a lot of money i would probably give it to you.. but its not..
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              • lovetobet
                SBR MVP
                • 10-06-08
                • 1294

                #8
                Wow, shocking I haven't been in this section for 6+ months I come back and the first thing I see is someone has a legit complaint with 5Dimes and specifically their customer service, which SUCKS A*S!!!!!

                So typical, I swear their customer service just gets worse and worse. Went through something similar (bad customer service) and basically received the same type of hostile, arrogant, douchebag type behavior.

                Jasper - I don't think he did it on purpose but I think employees working for a company that allows their customer service reps to deal with customers this way are a lot less likely to perform the appropriate due diligence before answering questions, which is what happened to me and to this guy, I'm just lucky mine wasn't about betting on a game like his was but still cost me money.
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                • Courtesywipe
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-02-11
                  • 1623

                  #9
                  Don't expect Tony to make it right. His book is already #1 so he can simply ignore these type if poor customer service incidents and still remain #1
                  Its a shame really.
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                  • jasper90
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 02-20-12
                    • 29

                    #10
                    are there any 5dimes reps on this board?
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                    • tb1984
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-11-08
                      • 3112

                      #11
                      Now, just read over your original post again, I think there is a mis-communication, you asked about half-time bet, but Allan answered about second half bet. These are essentially two different bets.
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                      • mighty maron
                        SBR MVP
                        • 04-20-09
                        • 4215

                        #12
                        IMO it will come down to this.......ask for the chat to be reviewed.....I think they will look at how much you bet and if you have ever made that exact type of wager before. If you have made that exact wager b4 you are out of luck. If you have not made that exact wager before and you dont bet soccer a lot nor for big amounts; maybe they give you the wager amount back....

                        All goes down to whether they believe you or not...if you bet soccer for any length of time or for any serious money, then I dont think so...if you are a noob you might get it back

                        GL
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