Books that offer open parlays?

**Hareeba!** · 03-29-12, 04:09 AM

Originally posted by parlayin

Besides 5 Dimes

don't worry about the books offering them ... just make your own at whatever book offers the best odds for each leg

**Jnas** · 03-29-12, 06:53 AM

Betislands does

**Maverick11** · 03-29-12, 11:16 AM

carib does also

**Hankwins** · 03-29-12, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by Maverick11

carib does also

carib also has no time limit to fill the open slots

**5mike5** · 03-29-12, 12:08 PM

5dimes and they have no limit either BTW....a

**thejrichshow85** · 03-29-12, 12:59 PM

betislands.

**5mike5** · 03-29-12, 01:30 PM

5dimes also offers ML on every game no matter big or small the line is, which is always nice for Open parlays...

**thejrichshow85** · 03-29-12, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

5dimes also offers ML on every game no matter the line, which is always nice for Open parlays...others dont offer over 10 and below 3

5dimes always has 1-2 "bad lines" that are purposely put on their site so if you win they can say "you were trying to take a shot at them " and if you lose ? well you lose bad line or not.

won't put a a dollar in this book until tony gets the boot!

**5mike5** · 03-29-12, 01:36 PM

i wasnt talking bad about BI bud...

and ive never had any problem with bad lines so cant comment on that

**thejrichshow85** · 03-29-12, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

5dimes and they have no limit either BTW....a

Did you even read the post? he said besides 5dimes .

**5mike5** · 03-29-12, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by thejrichshow85

Did you even read the post? he said besides 5dimes .

nope missed it...oops

just read the title of the thread

**mbrenes** · 03-29-12, 02:07 PM

www.alliancesportsbook.com also does ...

**5mike5** · 03-29-12, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by mbrenes

www.alliancesportsbook.com also does ...

isnt that ezstreet skin?

**ehp6737** · 03-29-12, 05:38 PM

Heritage does, but you have to do it all over the phone. For some reason they don't allow it to be done online.

**MUHerd37** · 03-29-12, 06:01 PM

Youwager just started offering them. Had never seem them there until today.

**hydrosmak** · 03-29-12, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by Jnas

Betislands does

Can only add two open slots though.

**mbrenes** · 03-30-12, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

www.alliancesportsbook.com also does ...

isnt that ezstreet skin?

not at all, the link is between ezstreet and 7Red ...

**Hareeba!** · 03-30-12, 04:16 PM

I really struggle to understand this fascination with "open parlays". Seems the books are fast jumping into to offer something we've always been able to do as though they've just invented sliced bread.

We have open ended parlays available at a range of different books and always have had.

I can go all up any two or more results I want (subject to stake limits of course) at the books which offer the best odds for each leg. And I can add more legs or stop whenever I choose. Simultaneous games of course have to be played at the same book but otherwise I'm free to spread the parlay between as many books as I have funded.

What am I missing?

**indio** · 03-30-12, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

I really struggle to understand this fascination with "open parlays". Seems the books are fast jumping into to offer something we've always been able to do as though they've just invented sliced bread.

We have open ended parlays available at a range of different books and always have had.

I can go all up any two or more results I want (subject to stake limits of course) at the books which offer the best odds for each leg. And I can add more legs or stop whenever I choose. Simultaneous games of course have to be played at the same book but otherwise I'm free to spread the parlay between as many books as I have funded.

What am I missing?

You're 100% correct. I guess it has to do with the psychology of gamblers. If a gambler wants to start a 4 team parlay with a -400 shot, he cant justify to himself a $300 wager to win $75, but he can justify $300 to win $429 on four -400 ML's in a parlay. Even though it's the same friggin thing. Conversely, if someone wants to take a shot at ML dogs by say parlaying three +300 dogs for $100 to win $6300, but he wont let the $1600 ride on a +300 dog in the third leg with first two games cash "in hand".

Doesn't make a lot of sense to me either, maybe someone who sees a difference can answer this.

**5mike5** · 03-30-12, 05:10 PM

i like them becuase u dont have to make every bet on the parlay off games listed today..being there no timetable to fill in the slots, i just stick my favorite game on the Open parlay and in a few days i may place another, and so on...i dont bet the 25 teamers with -800 like some do though....i just use them differently....its all personal prefernce but they have been a big moneymaker for me...but i also dont bet more than 4-5 per play, and usually no more than 3

**Hareeba!** · 03-30-12, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

i like them becuase u dont have to make every bet on the parlay off games listed today..being there no timetable to fill in the slots, i just stick my favorite game on the Open parlay and in a few days i may place another, and so on...i dont bet the 25 teamers with -800 like some do though....i just use them differently....its all personal prefernce but they have been a big moneymaker for me...but i also dont bet more than 4-5 per play, and usually no more than 3

You can do all that without having to use a book which makes a point of offering "open parlays"

By using a range of books you surely would make more money as you can shop for the best odds.

**5mike5** · 03-30-12, 05:48 PM

not when u add in the extra odds for the parlay....i mean all i can say is it works very well for me, but im not pushing it on anybody

like i said its all personal prefrence

**Hareeba!** · 03-30-12, 07:04 PM

What do you mean by "extra odds for the parlay"?
Maybe that's what I've been missing?
In fact at Pinnacle I think they actually trim the odds for parlays?

I'm just trying to get to the bottom of what the advantages of using one of these "open parlay" things is as on the surface is just seems like a bit of a gimmick to me.

**5mike5** · 03-30-12, 07:06 PM

they dont trim the odds (at 5dimes anyways)

u bet 3 teamer at -110 its dtill 6 to 1 and so on....up to 25 teamer

i think thats what was missing 4 ya

**Hareeba!** · 03-30-12, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

they dont trim the odds (at 5dimes anyways)

u bet 3 teamer at -110 its dtill 6 to 1 and so on....up to 25 teamer

i think thats what was missing 4 ya

No, that's what I would have expected and of course what you can do anywhere by simply betting all up each leg.

So there's no advantage in using an "open parlay"

**runnershane14** · 03-30-12, 07:42 PM

I like them for the purposes of betting 2nd halves/in play betting on a parlay. For instance at 5dimes on a typical day in any sports 2nd halves are posted throughout the day so I do not have the option of betting them all together at the beginning of the day. I also (at 5dimes) have the ability to throw an in-play wager as a leg.

**ehp6737** · 03-30-12, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

No, that's what I would have expected and of course what you can do anywhere by simply betting all up each leg.

So there's no advantage in using an "open parlay"

Correct. From an odds or payout comparison there is really no advantage to doing an open parlay. But there are still some other advantages to doing a regular or "open" parlay as opposed to just continuing to double up your straight bets. The main advantage is that with a parlay you won't run into max per game wagering limits, where as you eventually would with continuing to double up straight bets. For instance I can bet a $100 8 teamer (pays 150-1) to win $15k. Where as at a lot of books you wont be allowed to make the 6th, 7th, and 8th straight wagers trying to double up due to betting limits.

But again you are correct, there is not really an increased payout by doing an open parlay. You just see a lot more discussion about them now ever since vyomguy hit that $250K open 25 teamer a few months ago at 5D. So now everyone is fascinated with them and thinks open parlays are the key to financial freedom. I just like to play them because I think they're fun.

**Hareeba!** · 03-30-12, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by runnershane14

I like them for the purposes of betting 2nd halves/in play betting on a parlay. For instance at 5dimes on a typical day in any sports 2nd halves are posted throughout the day so I do not have the option of betting them all together at the beginning of the day. I also (at 5dimes) have the ability to throw an in-play wager as a leg.

Ok, but if they are not concurrent games, why can't you simply go all up at either 5D or another book if offering better odds rather than commit to using the "open parlay" product? Where's the advantage?

**5mike5** · 03-30-12, 08:20 PM

not sure what u mean about "go all up"

i use them simply becuase there not time limit, so if i only like 1 game the whole week i can add the next slot whenever i want...also u can use huge ML + or - if u want...

if theres not more than 1 game listed right now i will bet that and just wait til i really like another game or prop...
also hammering the play game by game u are risking alot more then placing the plays on a open parlay, if thats what u were saying?

and the odds on Opens parlays are exact same as if u are betting regualr parlays...odds dont shrink at 5D becuase u choose it Open...extra odds on the parlay stay the same

srry if im not explaining it good, why i personally like them but i hope it makes more sense now

**runnershane14** · 03-30-12, 08:26 PM

Actually they are going on at the same time for the most part. I would have a hard time "going all up" at another book if I didn't know the first leg was goign to win or lose. As well as I like to throw in in-play legs into the mix. Also, I don't have that much money at a bunch of different books, so its convenient for me.

**Hareeba!** · 03-30-12, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

not sure what u mean about "go all up"

i use them simply becuase there not time limit, so if i only like 1 game the whole week i can add the next slot whenever i want...also u can use huge ML + or - if u want...

if theres not more than 1 game listed right now i will bet that and just wait til i really like another game or prop...
also hammering the play game by game u are risking alot more then placing the plays on a open parlay, if thats what u were saying?

srry if im not explaining it good, why i personally like them but i hope it makes more sense now

Maybe we are talking at cross purposes because I am really struggling to see what these "open parlays" add to what you can do anyway.

Ok, say I like a couple of bets today and 5D has them both at evens (+100) just to keep the arithmetic simple. If they are not played concurrently and I can find the second of them at 2.10 (+110) at another book, I'd back the first one for say $100 at 5D and when it wins collect $200 and go "all up", putting the $200 on at the other book at $2.10 and stand to collect $420. Then I might like another bet tomorrow and I'll do some odds shopping and again go "all up" putting the $420 on at the best odds I can find. I'm not committed to completing a parlay at any book in particular and can stop whenever I want.