Australian Bookies

**brettels** · 11-02-11, 10:31 PM

i monitored them during footy season, they really do lack in markets but i'll see what they have next year. never saw odds more than .01 better than anywhere else but right now there tennis odds look more generous for favourites under 1.50

**Hareeba!** · 11-02-11, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by brettels

i monitored them during footy season, they really do lack in markets but i'll see what they have next year. never saw odds more than .01 better than anywhere else but right now there tennis odds look more generous for favourites under 1.50

Yep, sports markets are pretty basic. Their AFL lines at 1.93 are very competitive I find but best of all I can get all my stake down, unlike at the major corporates.

As for tennis, well maybe the shorties but it's just not my style to bet in that odds range.

**pwm** · 11-16-11, 01:50 AM

All these Aussie books limit as quickly (if not quicker) than the UK guys.

**brettels** · 01-08-12, 10:00 PM

I have played with topsport now, all i can see is they are the slowest book i have been with when it comes to settling bets! I'm talking hours when other bookies take just a few minutes or less when event has finished!

**brettels** · 01-08-12, 10:12 PM

And for there "top odds" i've seen TAB of all places have some better odds.

**Hareeba!** · 01-08-12, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by brettels

I have played with topsport now, all i can see is they are the slowest book i have been with when it comes to settling bets! I'm talking hours when other bookies take just a few minutes or less when event has finished!

never really found that a problem
sports or racing?
they do seem to take longer than most to settle on racing I know but it doesn't bother me ... I'm getting best of 3 totes which the others you refer to don't offer on non-metrop racing

**brettels** · 01-08-12, 10:18 PM

Sport!

Only bet racing 3-5 times a year!

**MARKOFCAIN** · 07-01-13, 03:37 AM

Unibet are another who except large wagers, well they have for me also the reason some are starting to take the pommy approach of limiting bet amounts is most of them now have been sold to pommy books. Paddy Power owns Sportsbet and Ias for example

**MARKOFCAIN** · 04-16-14, 07:21 AM

I know this is an old post however i am limited to about $20 AUD on sports markets with sportsbet and ias also banned from promotions with both. I am also banned from promotions with betstar and am unsure of my limits there as i have not used them since.

**Hareeba!** · 04-16-14, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by MARKOFCAIN

Unibet are another who except large wagers, well they have for me also the reason some are starting to take the pommy approach of limiting bet amounts is most of them now have been sold to pommy books. Paddy Power owns Sportsbet and Ias for example

For me Unibet accept only small stakes on sports and I detest their "take this amount and wait up to 30 mins. for a decision on the rest approach".

But for racing they are very much better.

**Hareeba!** · 04-17-14, 07:16 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wFn_vpj1Lw

**Terminators** · 04-24-14, 02:39 AM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wFn_vpj1Lw

Quality.

Unfortunately the Aussie market has been raped and pillaged over the last 3 years by the English corporates. Will Hill has 3 and Ladbrokes has a few. Paddy Power the others. Betstar the last decent size Aussie sold recently.

Only the smaller locals left now and they'll either be swallowed or struggle to survive. Palmer, TS, Betezy 3 that spring to mind still aussie owned but not many others.

**Hareeba!** · 04-24-14, 03:15 AM

Originally posted by Terminators

Quality.

Unfortunately the Aussie market has been raped and pillaged over the last 3 years by the English corporates. Will Hill has 3 and Ladbrokes has a few. Paddy Power the others. Betstar the last decent size Aussie sold recently.

Only the smaller locals left now and they'll either be swallowed or struggle to survive. Palmer, TS, Betezy 3 that spring to mind still aussie owned but not many others.

Yeah it's been the wrecking of what was once a very good scene for the Aussie punter.

I for one have effectively been banned by all the major corporates and even the TAB for sports betting.

Much as I don't really like the idea, those based in Vanuatu are becoming appealing.

Maybe more locals will appear?

One I just discovered today: classicbet.com.au

**Terminators** · 04-24-14, 03:24 AM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

Yeah it's been the wrecking of what was once a very good scene for the Aussie punter.

I for one have effectively been banned by all the major corporates and even the TAB for sports betting.

Much as I don't really like the idea, those based in Vanuatu are becoming appealing.

Maybe more locals will appear?

One I just discovered today: classicbet.com.au

Cheers, I'll check it out.

Matchbook the other missing from my portfolio atm. How are they with markets and liquidity for major aussie sports?

**Hareeba!** · 04-24-14, 03:53 AM

Originally posted by Terminators

Cheers, I'll check it out.

Matchbook the other missing from my portfolio atm. How are they with markets and liquidity for major aussie sports?

Matchbook only fair for liquidity NRL and AFL. Odds and lines mostly move in tandem with Pinnacle.

**jjgold** · 04-24-14, 06:04 AM

Is top sports Aussie owned?

**Hareeba!** · 04-24-14, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Is top sports Aussie owned?

yep
dinkum Aussie bookmaking family

**jjgold** · 04-24-14, 06:10 AM

How about sportsbetting.com.au

**Hareeba!** · 04-24-14, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

How about sportsbetting.com.au

think so but have done very little business with them ... Hamish Davidson I think ... pretty smalltime operation but I think he's tech savvy and helped out a lot of the independent Aussie books

**farmer33** · 04-25-14, 09:30 PM

Sportsbetting is owned by Hamish Davidson and works out of a small section of Unibets offices in NT,and they both bet like girls on sports.
Hamish has been responsible for the development of many Aust sites like Betstar,Betchoice.Tom Waterhouse and Flemingtonsportsbet and others.He has always had a very user friendly feel to his sites.
As for why all corporates are in the NT is because Sportingbet (England) lobbied the NT Gov to reduce the turnover tax to .33% originally. Tassie tried to offer the same to attract them to join Betfair down in Hobart but the NT Gov matched their offer and now its a flat 250k p/a. Sold themselves short I believe as none would have moved,as the likes of Sportingbet and 365 have invested Millions in IT and committed
to very long leases to the building they must occupy (Brett Dixon House) on track in Darwin.
Now is a good time to take advantage of some of their generous offers (if accepted) as they seem to be in a race to gobble up all the recreational punters out there during this consolidation phase.And some of you may well get some value out of them. You wont get set for much but hey when its free go for it.

**jjgold** · 04-26-14, 07:27 AM

Farmer great report I think they'll always be some small Aussie own books moving forward

I don't think the UK is changing anything other than risk management

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**Hareeba!** · 06-04-14, 09:53 PM

Without doubt this is the best article I've ever seen on this subject:

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http://trb.com.au/blog/?p=190