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  • sportsbooksucks
    SBR Rookie
    • 07-11-08
    • 7

    #1
    sportsbook.com exposed article hits AP tomorrow- hereis a sneak peak
    SPORTSBOOK.COM Distributes Millions of Dollars of Bad Checks to Customers in U.S. and Abroad

    (Dallas, TX, July 16, 2008) Sportsbook.com, a leading internet sportsbook/casino/poker website, has distributed millions of dollars in worthless checks to their winning clients in the United States, Canada and abroad over the last three weeks, and are currently holding millions more of processed winnings to thousands of U.S. clients.
    Sportsbook.com, located in Costa Rica, is one of many internet gaming websites owned by Jazette Enterprises Limited operating out of Antigua and Barbuda. Sportsbook.com was first notified of the issue on July 3rd when their clients started calling to complain of bad checks written to them by Zip Payments, a major “withdrawal” processor of Sportsbook.com, located in Henderson, NV.
    By Monday morning, July 7th, Sportsbook.com customer service reps, supervisors and managers became inundated with calls from angry clients who demanded answers. Sportsbook.com had no answers for them and said at the time they were trying to contact their processors to find the source of the problem.
    Meanwhile, Zip Payments was also being berated by calls, and their “Help Desk” was instructed to patch calls to their overseas customer service operations. They in turn referred calls to the overseas service merchant for Sportsbook.com, a company called Graapa out of Barcelona, Spain. Graapa, a large international merchant processor for several online gaming companies, among many other industries, had no comment on the matter and referred all clients to Sportsbook.com.
    By Monday afternoon, July 7th, online gaming message boards and online gaming forums were filling with massive complaints about Sportsbook.com, along with other online gaming/casino’s owned by the Jazette Corporation. Sportsbookreview.com, an online website that hosts these forums and rates online gaming companies, quickly downgraded the Sportsbook.com website to a “D- rating.” Hours later, hundreds of sportsbook.com clients were posting stories and details of the many bad checks and the charge-backs associated with them.
    On July 8th, Sportsbook.com upper management confirmed that they had lost their major withdrawal processor in the U.S. (Zip Payments) and were in the process of trying to quote “recoup the funds.” However, customer service reps, supervisors and management for Sportsbook.com offered no explanation and no plan of action as to the re-issuance of the bad checks.
    (more)

    Sportsbook.com (continued- page 2)

    Upper management at Sportsbook.com on July 8th estimated over 5,000 customers and an approximate amount of $4-5 million in bad checks were issued, but they had no clear way of knowing for sure.
    According to JoAnna Martinez, customer service manager for Sportsbook.com, “Until the client calls us and tells us that their check has bounced, we have no idea how many checks over the last three weeks that were distributed were actually bad checks,” as we cannot confirm with our processor.”
    By Tuesday afternoon, Zip Payments corporate office phones in Henderson and Las Vegas had been disconnected, and their so-called “Help Desk”, which is the phone number given on all of the bad checks, were quoted as “laughing and berating” those that called in questioning the bad checks issued by Zip Payments.
    In addition to the worthless checks that were issued, Sportsbook.com also was dealing with clients who for the last month had been “expecting winning checks to arrive.” The normal time frame for Sportsbook.com to release a check once it has “been approved by processors” was two to three weeks. Those that had waited that long and more soon learned by the end of the day from customer service reps that without a withdrawal processor, absolutely no winning checks were going to be distributed.
    Once word spread thousands more began to post messages on the online gaming forums citing their complaints and Sportsbook.com’s lack of communication.
    A few select emails to specific clients were sent by Sportsbook.com apologizing and citing the issue as quote: “which would appear to be resultant of an error in the transmission of funds.” This statement and apology did little to satisfy the wandering minds of thousands of suspicious clients who were now wondering if Sportsbook.com was going under.
    Sportsbook.com finally sent an official email out to their clients on Thursday morning, July 10th. For the complete transcript of the contents of this email, go to http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...-73395-p8.html and scroll down until you see the entire email message. An excerpt from this email reads:
    “Since the UIGEA was passed almost 2 years ago it has had varied success
    in clamping down on banking transactions involved with online gaming.
    Unfortunately the easiest form of transactions to trace and tackle are paper checks sent out to you, our customer. As a result of this all of our current check processors' have found it increasingly difficult to get your checks to you.
    At this point I would like to reassure you that a similar situation has
    happened previously, and on a much greater scale.”
    (more)
    Sportsbook.com (continued- page 3)

    Sportsbook.com customer service reps still refused to offer a timeline for settlement of these bad checks. They only commented that those that had bad checks in the amount of $5,000 and over could “possibly” receive their funds wired into their accounts for a fee. Reps went on to clarify though that quote “only 4-6 wire transfers could be done per day, and they were backlogged for 4-6 weeks already with requests.”
    By Friday, July 11th, online message boards repeatedly told stories of berate clients who continuously received no firm answers and no firm timelines for the re-issuance of the checks. By Friday afternoon, customer service reps for Sportsbook.com were telling their clients different timelines. According to the message boards on sportsbookreview.com, some were told 5-9 weeks. Some were told 3-5 weeks. One blogger even reported Sportsbook.com had told him “it may be year before he would receive any funds.”
    Clients also began to wonder if they had no way to disperse the winning funds, why were they still operating and taking in deposits and wagers from their clients? Martinez, customer service manager, stated that at that time only an estimated 5% of clients had been effected; however, on July 16th, “Gef”, a customer service supervisor under Martinez (he is not allowed to give out his last name- only managers can provide their actual names) said that “all three (3) ‘deposit processors’ for Sportsbook.com were still in place, and that we are currently searching for a ‘withdrawals’ processor.”
    “Gef” also stated on Tuesday, July 16th that “over 8,000 customers were estimated to have been effected (significantly higher than Martinez had estimated the week prior.) “Gef” refused to provide an estimated dollar amount associated with these 8,000 customers who had now received bad checks, but that it was quote “in the millions.”
    “Gef” then stated that the cause of the bad checks was now due to “the United States federal government finding out about the ‘Zip Payments’ accounts.” He continued that “it was the federal government that closed the Zip Payment accounts at the Nevada State Bank, and Sportsbook.com had still not recovered the funds.” Calls to Nevada State Bank officials to confirm this statement were unreturned, other than one return call from a marketing director named Sandi Milton who said she could not even find “Zip Payments” in their system. She then never responded after several repeated attempts to contact her.

    (more)

    Sportsbook.com (continued- page 4)

    Message boards also confirmed that Sportsbook.com customer service reps were now using this new “federal government crackdown claim” as to the reason of the widespread bad checks, now reported to also be occurring to clients in Canada and to other online gaming/casino websites owned by the Jazette Corportation.
    Sportsbook.com had a similar incident in 2007 with their processors, yet all clients eventually were paid, that according to Martinez. The email to sportsbook.com clients referenced this incident and assured everyone would eventually get paid:

    “How is this reassurance? Absolutely every single one of our customers got their pending payouts. Admittedly it took a little time, and a lot of effort, but
    we have never missed a payout and I assure you, we never will.
    We also intend to put into practice the valuable experience we gained
    during the previous situation. Our processors at the time gave us
    timeframes after which they estimated situation would be resolved. We passed
    these timeframes on to our concerned customers, only to have our
    processors move the goalposts time and time again. This only served to
    frustrate everyone involved.

    While many customers are content to wait it out without a firm timeline, many others are suffering the hardships associated with large checks being charged back to their accounts. Sportsbook.com has agreed since day one to pay any of their clients’ ********** fees and returned transaction fees; however, this is of no help to one particular 23-year old client who threatened suicide with his post he made to a message board on sportbookreview.com. He posts as the name of “SBruinedmylife” and here is his message he posted:

    “I’m only 23 years old i just bought my house and brand new car with my online poker winnings I’ve won over 80 k this year but it’s all gone now and I’m in debt, I’m completely screwed id go play in a casino but i dont have the stake and my family doesn’t help me out at all i hate my life and honestly contemplated suicide because of these ****s”. “do you understand what an overdrawn account, terrible credit a repossessed car and eviction means? I haven’t slept in a week.

    When “Gef” (sportsbook.com customer service supervisor) was asked how he feels about his clients contemplating suicide because of the thousands of dollars of bounced checks owed to him, “Gef” simply replied “Sounds like he has a major problem.”

    (more)


    Sportsbook.com (continued- page 5)

    While this particular client seems to be an extreme case, the message boards are filled with stories of charged back checks, and the quick needs of these people to receive what Sportsbook.com owes them. Hundreds of messages are also warning fellow players to stay away from Sportsbook.com, and many more are also advising their peers to steer clear of online gambling for good. Says one “sportsbooksucks” message:

    “DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT SPEND ANY MORE OF YOUR MONEY ON AN ONLINE GAMBLING SITE- GET IN YOUR CAR, GO TO A CASINO, WIN YOUR MONEY, GO THE CASHIER AND WALK OUT OF THEIR WITH YOUR MONEY IN YOUR POCKET! not only are these online companies playing with your mind and your money, they are also collecting interest by holding your money as ransom for weeks upon weeks at a time.”

    As of late Wednesday afternoon, July 16th, “Gef” stated that “All customer service managers and directors were absent from work, as they were in joint meetings in an attempt to find solutions to re-disperse the bad checks to these clients.”
    Twelve days have now passed and other than one official email, there has been no further communication initiated by Sportsbook.com to their client base. Tempers are raging in the message boards, and the situation is likely to get much worse before it gets any better.
    As the U.S. federal government continues in its efforts to limit and eliminate online gambling, Sportsbook.com, and the entire Jazette family of sportsbooks/casinos and online poker internet sites, among others, are likely to continue to encounter setbacks of this magnitude.

    ###

    NOTE: Zip Payments, Graapa, and the Nevada State Bank all refused interviews for this story.
  • sbruinedmylife
    SBR Hustler
    • 07-15-08
    • 99

    #2
    what newspaper is this is, thats awesome you could have used my real name if you wanted, they are claiming im gonna get this bankwire for 6,000 but i dont know if they are lying, i also hope to god this doesnt hurt my chances of getting the money

    thanks anyway for the article thats classic and i meant what i said, although ive decided against "suicide" at this point and ive been forced to find 2 or 3 jobs in the mean time to try to make up for this , but it isnt going so swell in this economy
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    • durito
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-03-06
      • 13173

      #3
      If you want to be sure to never see your money again, put your name in that article.
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      • tbettis
        SBR Hustler
        • 07-01-07
        • 56

        #4
        if this gets published..say goodbye to your money...but honestly i think its a fake but we'll see.
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        • trypsin
          SBR Hustler
          • 05-14-08
          • 58

          #5
          seriously. this only makes it worse. if the federal govt takes wind of it, they are simply going to keep the money for themselves and if this goes to court, you can forget about recooperating and of your money. You are just pouring gasoline on a fire.

          another note, what a poorly written article.
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          • tomcowley
            SBR MVP
            • 10-01-07
            • 1129

            #6
            The article is nothing but badly written tripe (unfounded rumors, comments only by people who aren't in a position to represent the company with their comments, and factual inaccuracies), and it doesn't serve any positive purpose for offshore bettors. Go post it on the FoF website or something, they'd love it.

            Seriously, this is a 1-paragraph newsflash bloated into a monstrosity.
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            • sbruinedmylife
              SBR Hustler
              • 07-15-08
              • 99

              #7
              at this point im willing to pay taxes on the money the owe me if it helps it be recouperated, if anything they are the ones breaking the law and the us citizens should get protection from them, shut them down thats fine w/ me just get me the money first , im sure the govt is well aware of sportsbook and their operation they will still find ways around it im sure,
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              • sportsbookscams
                SBR Rookie
                • 07-15-08
                • 36

                #8
                If this article gets published, I will not only vote for Obama, I will vote Democrat in every election for the rest of my life. That's how sure I am that this article is complete bs.
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                • casper
                  SBR Hustler
                  • 07-13-08
                  • 87

                  #9
                  Article is a fake but I like the sentiment

                  Folks, I have a master's in journalism from a prestigious school and spent 5 years in daily journalism (AA and AAA levels). This article is fake. It's a rant, one with which I agree. Writer merely cobbled together some stuff, including posts from this board. Alas, I wish and hope the bastards pay us some day.
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                  • RickySteve
                    Restricted User
                    • 01-31-06
                    • 3415

                    #10
                    I encourage everyone cheated by Sportsbook.com to edit their Wikipedia page.

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                    • Santo
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-08-05
                      • 2957

                      #11
                      It's quite clearly a PRWeb or similar free press release, that will get picked up by nobody.
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                      • gambleballs
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 10-15-07
                        • 466

                        #12
                        Oh Goody.
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                        • sportsbooksucks
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 07-11-08
                          • 7

                          #13
                          to santo, casper, tomcowley and tbettiss,

                          I'm trying to help us all out by bringing the situation to the forefront with this article and to advise others to stay away so that they don't have to put up with this nonsense. The story was not written AP style- it was written in feature form to attract attention. If you "journalists" don't like it, then take some action and write your own damm stories and submit them for consideration- better yet, go to costa rica and form a riot! lol!! Otherwise, shut the hell up. All the info in this article is factual- if the official spokespersons won't publicly talk, then the next best thing are quotes and info that the official reps for Sportsbook.com are telling the managers and customer service supervisors to tell us. And for your information, ABC wants to meet with me next Tuesday. I'll see what actions Sportsbook.com takes between now and then before deciding to meet with them. Best of luck to you all- especially the negative ones!! Sounds like you four need something positive in your life!!
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                          • tomcowley
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-01-07
                            • 1129

                            #14
                            No, everything is not factual. At the least, SB didn't get downgraded over this.

                            "Bringing this to the forefront" is the stupidest idea ever for "helping out". I'm sure that will make it SOOOOO much easier for them to get a processor and get people paid. At least all evidence so far points to you being completely full of it, so I guess it doesn't really matter.
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                            • durito
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 07-03-06
                              • 13173

                              #15
                              Originally posted by sportsbooksucks
                              to santo, casper, tomcowley and tbettiss,

                              I'm trying to help us all out by bringing the situation to the forefront with this article and to advise others to stay away so that they don't have to put up with this nonsense. The story was not written AP style- it was written in feature form to attract attention. If you "journalists" don't like it, then take some action and write your own damm stories and submit them for consideration- better yet, go to costa rica and form a riot! lol!! Otherwise, shut the hell up. All the info in this article is factual- if the official spokespersons won't publicly talk, then the next best thing are quotes and info that the official reps for Sportsbook.com are telling the managers and customer service supervisors to tell us. And for your information, ABC wants to meet with me next Tuesday. I'll see what actions Sportsbook.com takes between now and then before deciding to meet with them. Best of luck to you all- especially the negative ones!! Sounds like you four need something positive in your life!!
                              Before continuing your budding journalism career, I'd suggest familiarizing yourself with the paragraph.
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                              • Pokerdogg
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 04-18-08
                                • 57

                                #16
                                What's the quickest way to topple a bank that is in trouble... by creating panic and cause a run at the bank.

                                Now I don't know if they are in financial trouble, or they are really inept and can't solve their processor problem. But I don't think creating a media circus will solve the problem for either scenario.

                                For my own selfish reasons, I want them to stay alive, find a way out of their problems (whatever it is), and pay me. I have close to $30k outstanding with them (don't ask), this is not a trivial amount for me. At the same time, I am not going to panic and start pushing the wrong buttons, because in the end it serves no one (except perhaps the media machine, and the self-righteous groups that want to ban online gambling).

                                Sportsbooksucks, I can understand why there is skeptism towards what you have written, aside from the undesirable effects I already mentioned. As an investigative journalist, your writting seems quite sub-par. I am not that good a writer (I'm an engineer and English is my second language). My wife (the ex-journalist) regularly takes my writing apart, but I think I write better than you. You also overhyped what you were doing, talking about major stories coming out, when it seems apparent that your news article was not commisioned by anyone. I may be totally wrong about you, but preception is everything, especially on an online forum where I don't know you from Joe on the street. If you want to be convincing, I suggest you work on your delivery, whether you want to convince a bunch of strangers on this forum, or a national media outlet like ABC news.

                                Oh, by the way, quotes from postings on an online forum cannot be deemed factual, unless the information has been fact checked and verified. I am sure you learned that in Journalism 101.
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                                • Wahhhhh
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 07-17-08
                                  • 3

                                  #17
                                  Moron

                                  This article is one of the biggest POS's I have ever seen. Whoever wrote this should be embarassed.
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                                  • sportsbooksucks
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 07-11-08
                                    • 7

                                    #18
                                    Every statement and quote in the article was stated directly to me by the person who quoted it. You all have heard most of these BS quotes from SB when you called in as well, so whats the difference in consolidating it all into one story? (as un-AP-style as you may think it is in).

                                    Additionally, there were two posts pulled from this forum (and yes, it was verified that the people who wrote them did actually write them and cite them on this site- and i am glad one of them is still alive- things will get better "SBruinedmylife"- hang in there buddy!).

                                    The word document this article was originally written in is in paragraph form- when copied and pasted into this message forum box, it becomes unformatted. (this in response to the multi-paragraph notzy!)

                                    You guys are too much- those that are complaining can't seem to handle the truth. I do feel all of your pain- but you need to come to terms that you are being screwed. And yes, patience is a virtue! I hope we all get paid- especially the guy who is owed $30,000+. May it serve as yet another warning that we need to steer clear of not only this site but all others like it. Invest money wisely somewhere else- maybe in the stock market (just joking).

                                    This will be my last post- wish you all the best of luck- out of consideration to many of my paranoid peers, I will take your advice and cancel the requested ABC interview (for now). What everyone else does with the story idea for now is out of my hands! Adios!!
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                                    • sportsbook.blow
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 05-14-08
                                      • 35

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Pokerdogg
                                      What's the quickest way to topple a bank that is in trouble... by creating panic and cause a run at the bank.

                                      Now I don't know if they are in financial trouble, or they are really inept and can't solve their processor problem. But I don't think creating a media circus will solve the problem for either scenario.

                                      For my own selfish reasons, I want them to stay alive, find a way out of their problems (whatever it is), and pay me. I have close to $30k outstanding with them (don't ask), this is not a trivial amount for me. At the same time, I am not going to panic and start pushing the wrong buttons, because in the end it serves no one (except perhaps the media machine, and the self-righteous groups that want to ban online gambling).

                                      Sportsbooksucks, I can understand why there is skeptism towards what you have written, aside from the undesirable effects I already mentioned. As an investigative journalist, your writting seems quite sub-par. I am not that good a writer (I'm an engineer and English is my second language). My wife (the ex-journalist) regularly takes my writing apart, but I think I write better than you. You also overhyped what you were doing, talking about major stories coming out, when it seems apparent that your news article was not commisioned by anyone. I may be totally wrong about you, but preception is everything, especially on an online forum where I don't know you from Joe on the street. If you want to be convincing, I suggest you work on your delivery, whether you want to convince a bunch of strangers on this forum, or a national media outlet like ABC news.

                                      Oh, by the way, quotes from postings on an online forum cannot be deemed factual, unless the information has been fact checked and verified. I am sure you learned that in Journalism 101.
                                      FACE!!!
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                                      • azkid
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 01-27-07
                                        • 46

                                        #20
                                        Oh you're canceling your interview now?

                                        Ha, ha, ha. You're really pathetic. As if you ever had an "interview" with ABC!

                                        I happen to be a reporter, a real one for a major newspaper and you have violated so many journalism rules with your poorly written and reported story that it's not even funny.

                                        For one thing, journalists aren't supposed to cover things they have an obvious interest in. You obviously have money tied up in sportsbook.com. Nobody will pick up your crappily written story.

                                        I won't even get into the millions of other ethical rules you violated with this shizt.
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                                        • cinpls081
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 05-09-08
                                          • 655

                                          #21
                                          i think it was a joke. A really bad one but kind of funny in my opinion
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