Can anyone at SBR confirm that Topbet.com is run by the same owners as beted? Their sites look identical and now covers is promoting them the same way they did BetEd. If this is the case, maybe everyone screwed by beted should be calling topbet for their balances...
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I can't either confirm or deny it however, I will tell you this much regarding this subject. If I was one of their sponsors there I would probably re-think my position on the subject based on the fact that they will be the ones who will be asked for a another bailout type situation especially if they really knew the heat that surrounds the entire BetEd mess is really just starting. But hey what could I possibly know in regards to whats coming.
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Anyone notice Covers' response?
Regarding Topbet
We will be temporarily taking Topbet off our WhereTo Play list while we investigate the complaints brought up in our forum. Following the investigation, a decision will be made whether they will be re-instated or not.
A few points worth noting:
1) Our American "Where To Play" list is just that... a list of places that still take bets from Americans. You will notice that we link directly to those sites (without tracking codes) and don't offer any reviews or recommendations - we don't even number the list. In this day and age, we don't do recommendations anymore and must leave it up to the customers to ensure they have evaluated all operations thoroughly before sending money.
2) When reading or evaluating anything online, remember to consider the source. For instance, there is a site out there trying to somehow link Topbet's organization with Covers - and even betEd. Note that this site's owner has had an ongoing grudge with Covers for quite a while and seems to focus an inordinately large amount of his attention on us, which is especially odd since he positions himself as a member of the social elite. Why he is so fixated on little ol' Covers is a mystery to us, even a bit flattering. Big hugs out to you, Dude!
3) Also note that some of the members of Topbet's organization are ex-Bodog employees. It's a well-known industry fact that employees don't leave Bodog without having their character publicly assassinated and all future endeavors publicly smeared. Also note that Topbet targets the Asian market, another area of major focus for Bodog - which wasn't mentioned anywhere in the original articles. As always, there is more to the story than you might find at the source of the dirt.
4) We believe in second chances. If every offshore SB operation was disqualified because someone in their organization was once affiliated with a failed operation... there would be no offshore industry whatsoever. Bottom line... if you are still willing to take bets online from Americans, it's probably because you don't have a lot to lose. Which means there is a graveyard full of skeletons in the closet of every offshore sportsbook. This doesn't mean they are dishonest and won't fulfill their obligations; usually it just means they ran into some bad luck with the authorities somewhere along the way. That's why we are willing to offer people second chances. And that's why customers need to do their homework before depositing at any offshore sportsbook.
5) It is our view that the most important responsibility of a sportsbook is paying the customers. We got stung by that with betED - the first time in our history. The result was that we completely changed our advertising model, as you probably have noticed.
6) Also note that times have changed. The reason a lot of sportsbooks left the American market was not just because of the legal implications, but because of the sheer effort needed to keep up with the problems involved in paying American customers. Payment methods get jammed up and shut down all the time. The result is a lot of slooooowwww payments. So, just because it's taking a few extra days for your payment to arrive doesn't necessarily mean that your sportsbook is screwing you, it could mean that it's just taking a while.
7) Taking note of all above, but regarding Topbet specifically...
- Topbet assured us that the rumors posted on the other site regarding a specific individual were 100% false and the only link is a phone number that once belonged to another site. Well, having been personally attacked by that same site with false rumors, I have little basis to disagree with their statement. We are not going to penalize a site because they were targeted for a smear-campaign by the King of Smear. That would be wrong.
- That being said, we will investigate stories about non-payment. If Topbet is not paying out customers, they will remain off the list.
- If it turns out that players ARE getting paid, and this tempest is just a lot of negative hype started by a competitor/ex-boss with a few axes to grind... they'll go back on the list.
So...
Has anybody actually NOT been paid by Topbet? In our mind, that's all that matters.
Let's find out the truth.Comment -
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Hey i hope they are the same maybe now i can get my $ back i considered a loss.Comment -
This seems like a lie to me. I've been to covers.com before and it looks like how they make their money is, I sign up to book A through them, and they get a commission for life on me.
I like how they abdicate all responsibility. "we dont offer reviews or recommendations". "Leave it up to the customer".
When you go to covers.com/sportsbetting/sportsbooks.aspx and click on SBGGLOBAL, it takes you to a webpage with a clear link to Covers. (http://www.sbgglobal.com/CMG) Seems like a lie!
They seem like a shady operation. I first heard that TOPBET could be BETED on gambling911.com - that site can look kind of iffy, but whatever. Since there's other books for USA players I'd still stay away from TOPBET. I mean they just spring up out of nowhere one day, they've only been around for less than a month, so even if someone requested a check a month ago maybe it still hasn't gotten to them. So how do we know if anybody got paid or not? WHo's going to be the 1st to take that risk?Comment -
Was directed to Topbet.com when saw they're noted for having the best ML on the Pats for the Super Bowl @ -130. Though after reading all this, and not seeing Topbet rated by SBR, have major reservations. Anyone here have any experience or input on this place these days?Comment
