Silly Misunderstanding W/ Betonline...right?

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  • lambchopno
    SBR Rookie
    • 08-05-10
    • 48

    #1
    Silly Misunderstanding W/ Betonline...right?
    BetOnline is trying to be a brand name in the US market. Being patriotic I told their marketer that I would go ahead and make another CC deposit but the cc this time had 1 letter off in my name of Pr#PS##a. I own a 400 person company and do not have time to go to the bank and change the card for one letter when it's the only card with just one letter missing. The marketer said that would be no problem when time to verify. I knew about verification so I asked up front. After losing a grand, I got lucky and won 5k. Thinking I might make a small withdrawl, I called and asked if they needed anything else to prove my identity. They said there is a problem with one of the "4" cc's I deposited with and this 'could' be bad news. They then told me to call tomorrow when banking is open. There is no way BOL won't pay me after using 3 ************ with my name spelled correct and telling them upfront b4 the last deposit right? BOL will do the right thing I'm sure and I will keep you posted either way. Thanks!

    ______________

    Edit by Lou: After speaking with BetOnline management, the following was explained:

    1. The misspelling of the player's last name on the card used obviously prompted the need for additional scans/documents. While the request may have helped infuriate the player, it was necessary and fairly standard.


    2. Due to the high fraud risk associated with "business cards", BetOnline is going to A. refund deposits to the card in question, B. will pay the winnings of the account balance through their normal payout methods, and C. institute a rule going forward that company cards will not be accepted.
  • VTranX
    SBR MVP
    • 02-02-10
    • 1975

    #2
    That's messed up.
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    • +Even
      SBR Sharp
      • 11-04-10
      • 443

      #3
      veeeeery smart lambchop.....veeeeeery smart
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      • lambchopno
        SBR Rookie
        • 08-05-10
        • 48

        #4
        I'm just going to call it like it happens without any bias. The Lord has blessed me so that 5k isn't enough $ for me to stomp my feet in a temper tantrum. BOL pays me because I won and am due the money, I will post on this thread. If they try to avoid paying an honest post up player who deposited, lost, deposited won and got stiffed.....I should probably post that too. The one thing I promise to do is keep it 100% factual, which is why this forum is treasured. With football season upon us and the bonus BOL gives, all they're missing are some successful payout history. A history I unfortunately noticed missing in Lou's payout thread.
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        • Hareeba!
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 07-01-06
          • 37266

          #5
          Originally posted by lambchopno
          I'm just going to call it like it happens without any bias. The Lord has blessed me so that 5k isn't enough $ for me to stomp my feet in a temper tantrum. BOL pays me because I won and am due the money, I will post on this thread. If they try to avoid paying an honest post up player who deposited, lost, deposited won and got stiffed.....I should probably post that too. The one thing I promise to do is keep it 100% factual, which is why this forum is treasured. With football season upon us and the bonus BOL gives, all they're missing are some successful payout history. A history I unfortunately noticed missing in Lou's payout thread.
          Don't weaken and let them get away without paying you.
          Fight it all the way.
          I hope you've got evidence of your conversation about the missing character on your card.
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          • lambchopno
            SBR Rookie
            • 08-05-10
            • 48

            #6
            "UPDATE"
            BOL-"Bet On Line May I help you"
            ME-"Yes this is B#@#$#$ and I'm calling to see if I'm verified"
            BOL-"Yes you're calling about your $500 withdrawal right?"
            ME-"No, I'm calling about a more important matter and that's my verification status. The $500 can wait"
            BOL-"The verification department is working on this matter and will know in 24 hours."
            ME-"So tomorrow for sure right?"
            BOL-"Yes Sir"

            We will all know tomorrow. Meanwhile, should I post up somewhere else or keep playing till tomorrow? I'm a sicko and play my entire balance every day regardless of whats in my account. Nevermind, I just answered my own question.
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            • Maniac
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 04-12-11
              • 667

              #7
              Is the spelling mistake just on the card, or is the same spelling mistake on your statement as well ?

              If so then I suggest making copies of front and back of that card as well as a statement, and also do the same for another of the cards you have used with them in the past. This should prove that despite the spelling mistake, both cards are registered in your name and go to the same address etc
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              • JoeVig
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 01-11-08
                • 772

                #8
                Could not even imagine this not being paid by them. I would say calmly follow up and all will be well.
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                • topgame85
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-30-08
                  • 12325

                  #9
                  Seems like every day a new issues comes up with BOL. Just saying........
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                  • lambchopno
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 08-05-10
                    • 48

                    #10
                    The only spelling mistake is on the card. Every other item I sent is spelled correctly and the signature on the back of every card is identical because it is me. I told them this before I deposited it and oddly enough they took my deposit no problem. Huh? Odd they took my deposit
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                    • alling
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-13-10
                      • 1405

                      #11
                      I dont trust any book that makes depositing so easy especially in this current online gambling environment.
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                      • lambchopno
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 08-05-10
                        • 48

                        #12
                        That kind of post only helps if you are able to recommend and vouch for the book you play with. Otherwise I would post,"I never try to jump the Grand Canyon on a motorcycle." Did that help anyone? Did I just save anybody's life?
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                        • PharaohUB
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-23-07
                          • 4865

                          #13
                          I have been playing BOL for 7 years and stopped because they hassled me over a $100 deposit I made with a gift card that i must have thrown out. 7 years and they are going to hassle me over $100? BOL - you need to get a clue. People are worried about the safety of their money. If you are concerned about chargebacks, make leniancies for long time players. For non-long time players... wait until the grace period passes for doing a **********, and promise pmt when that period is up!
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                          • mikeyg
                            Restricted User
                            • 02-25-10
                            • 399

                            #14
                            What does being patriotic have to do with anything? Is their marketing department American???
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                            • lambchopno
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 08-05-10
                              • 48

                              #15
                              Final Update from BOL! Lambchop Gets Stiffed!!

                              I called BOL to receive their verdict of whether or not I will be paid after 2 months of play with me depositing with my CC-losing, deposit with my CC-losing, depositing with my CC-losing and depositing with my CC and winning. They asked for verification of my identity. I sent every image of my 4 ************. Some had my company name and my name(I'm the owner of the company) the others did not have my company name. The SUPERVISOR FOR BOL said I will be stiffed!

                              The reason today, which is different than the other reasons I received, was because 2 ************ had my company name(which I own the company) This was reason #4 for why I was being stiffed. The 1st reason was because my card was blurry. The 2nd reason was because one of my cards was misspelled(but they forgot that I pre-authorised that before I deposited) so that reason sucked too. So today was the day, after two weeks of trying to request a payout, we hear the reason best suited t fit them.

                              I asked where this was in the rules and they replied that everything is at BOL discretion. I found out about this Taco Stand SB from SBR. Please Do Not Try and Become Forum Pro by depositing to BOL! They will not pay you! The last time I submitted a complaint with SBR was WSEX before their problems. Somehow those posts 3 years ago are missing and I'm only a member since 2010? Justin please do not continue to let BOL butter your bread and let them stiff your followers. The next person who gets stiffed may actually need it for a car payment.
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                              • lambchopno
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 08-05-10
                                • 48

                                #16
                                I called BOL to receive their verdict of whether or not I will be paid after 2 months of play with me depositing with my CC-losing, deposit with my CC-losing, depositing with my CC-losing and depositing with my CC and winning. They asked for verification of my identity. I sent every image of my 4 ************. Some had my company name and my name(I'm the owner of the company) the others did not have my company name. The SUPERVISOR FOR BOL said I will be stiffed!

                                The reason today, which is different than the other reasons I received, was because 2 ************ had my company name(which I own the company) This was reason #4 for why I was being stiffed. The 1st reason was because my card was blurry. The 2nd reason was because one of my cards was misspelled(but they forgot that I pre-authorised that before I deposited) so that reason sucked too. So today was the day, after two weeks of trying to request a payout, we hear the reason best suited t fit them.

                                I asked where this was in the rules and they replied that everything is at BOL discretion. I found out about this Taco Stand SB from SBR. Please Do Not Try and Become Forum Pro by depositing to BOL! They will not pay you! The last time I submitted a complaint with SBR was WSEX before their problems. Somehow those posts 3 years ago are missing and I'm only a member since 2010? Justin please do not continue to let BOL butter your bread and let them stiff your followers. The next person who gets stiffed may actually need it for a car payment.
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                                • bobbywaves
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 05-06-08
                                  • 13280

                                  #17
                                  I was contemplating depositing with BOL, due to their sign up bonus & competitve dime line....May have to deposit with 5 dimes now.
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                                  • topgame85
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 03-30-08
                                    • 12325

                                    #18
                                    TONS of recent problems reported. They got in over their heads when they opened the poker room. They now have tons of new players and employees who are ruining payout times and shitty service being rendered. Stick to other books for the time being at least.
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                                    • Justin7
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 07-31-06
                                      • 8577

                                      #19
                                      lambchop,

                                      Did you file a complaint? I have had a lot of success working with BetOnline.
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                                      • katstale
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-07-07
                                        • 3924

                                        #20
                                        This is really strange, especially if Alex was involved. Be glad to hear how this goes, Justin.
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                                        • mia
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 08-17-10
                                          • 13

                                          #21
                                          Wow unreal....
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                                          • jesuseatsnubs
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 04-27-11
                                            • 507

                                            #22
                                            any mods or admins gonna help this guy out .. or are u just gonna stay quiet cause betonline pays u .. bunch of criminals if u ask me
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                                            • sdiamond8065
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 05-13-11
                                              • 80

                                              #23
                                              first of all stop using a cc for deposits
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                                              • lambchopno
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 08-05-10
                                                • 48

                                                #24
                                                justin,

                                                I'm with many players who believe it is difficult for you to act partially. That said, I am grateful for the platform. The last complaint I filed was with WSEX before they began to crumble. While the investigation went on, as human nature goes, I did not post for fear of it going against me. If you know the facts I've already posted, why would I need a form? Take my posts and ask BOL. Thank God 4k isn't enough to scare me into silent hope after submission. Use this thread as submission and in the meantime I will get 10x my money pummeling BOL in forums. just bet paid me using the exact same ccs
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                                                • erickvivar
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 05-21-10
                                                  • 293

                                                  #25
                                                  Im sorry to hear that lambchopno. I never thought they will not honor your claim. Good luck.
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                                                  • austin
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 04-16-09
                                                    • 901

                                                    #26
                                                    still get spammed daily by bol with their 30%-100% freeplays on new deposits - that is not a good sign.
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                                                    • Monte
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-21-10
                                                      • 2056

                                                      #27
                                                      I told you, this book is a ticking bomb.
                                                      Shame on SBR for promoting it beyond believe, and even giving A- for some time.
                                                      You know something is wrong anyway when a guy named Alex and a female avatar hangs around this forum frequently.
                                                      BPHX Richard anyone? Talk about sweet talking to future potential victims.
                                                      It puts your ratings to shame, as well as the books that truly deserve A.
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                                                      • bigbet1234
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 06-22-06
                                                        • 625

                                                        #28
                                                        Why not file a complaint with SBR? If the cards are in fact yours, you shouldn't have a problem if you name is off by one letter
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                                                        • secretstash
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 03-29-10
                                                          • 14907

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by lambchopno
                                                          justin, I'm with many players who believe it is difficult for you to act partially. That said, I am grateful for the platform. The last complaint I filed was with WSEX before they began to crumble. While the investigation went on, as human nature goes, I did not post for fear of it going against me. If you know the facts I've already posted, why would I need a form? Take my posts and ask BOL. Thank God 4k isn't enough to scare me into silent hope after submission. Use this thread as submission and in the meantime I will get 10x my money pummeling BOL in forums. just bet paid me using the exact same ccs
                                                          lol wtf.. this is not the way to try and get paid.. obviously u are giving up on your money.... betonline is a sponsor here and im sure sbr can pull some weight around with them IF u have told the truth about your case.. which in all honesty u have to be hiding something.. it wouldnt make sense for them to stiff based on the reasons u gave.

                                                          -stash
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                                                          • Justin7
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 07-31-06
                                                            • 8577

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by lambchopno
                                                            justin,

                                                            If you know the facts I've already posted, why would I need a form? Take my posts and ask BOL.
                                                            Lambchop,

                                                            The complaint form gives us more info than what you tell in the forums. I don't know your account number, email or tele. The complaint also authorizes the sportsbook to discuss your dispute with SBR (assuming you check the "yes") box.

                                                            If you're serious about getting paid, fill out the complaint.
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                                                            • Chuck Sims
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 12-29-05
                                                              • 3072

                                                              #31
                                                              lambchop, file the complaint. You'll get some kind of action. You might even get your money.
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                                                              • katstale
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 02-07-07
                                                                • 3924

                                                                #32
                                                                I bet this whole thing gets resolved in less than 15 minutes with a chat between Justin and Alex. If that doesn't happen here, then we can assume an agenda with OP.
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                                                                • MBENZ
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 01-07-07
                                                                  • 5238

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Got the feeling old lambchop got the call to be silent or no chance of getting paid.
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                                                                  • lambchopno
                                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                                    • 08-05-10
                                                                    • 48

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Nope. I will gladly fill out the form. If I'm willing to give my address, I'm pretty sure I got nothing to hide. Just as long as it's understood I will continue to pummel BOL on these forums, I got no problem. I want someone from BOL to come to my house. I want that soo bad
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                                                                    • DustyRhodes
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 07-07-11
                                                                      • 406

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Agree with bigbet.
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