ComeOn Sportsbook's evidence in bonus complaint

[bigloser]

No way is it acceptable for moneybookers to pass on infornation.
Moneybookers is effectively a bank, we wouldnt accept banks passing on our details. Why is moneybookers different?


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[JohnnyC]

*sigh*

[bigloser]

http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/07/02/how-confidential-is-your-confidential-data-in-the-hands-of-online-payment-solutions-is-moneybookers-fully-in-tune-with-the-law/

[andywend]

Why are you completely clueless about everything?

Durito, the vast majority of posters in this forum know full well that your IQ is slightly below that of a carrot.

You lack the intelligence to shine my shoes as you WREAK OF FAILURE.

ComeOn has produced satisfactory evidence linking the above player to ten other account holders. Each of the account holders shared the same IP range plus a number of other similarities, including location and signup details. In addition to the above, Moneybookers reportedly notified ComeOn of transfers between the related accounts.

Assuming the above facts are true, then the book should have the right to confiscate all deposits. Having this right would end low class scum like this from trying to abuse bonuses.

Durito, I realize this is exactly the kind of thing you like to do which explains why you didn't like what I said.

HOWEVER, YOUR OPINION IS WORTHLESS!!!

[durito]

Durito, the vast majority of posters in this forum know full well that your IQ is slightly below that of a carrot.

You lack the intelligence to shine my shoes as you WREAK OF FAILURE.Assuming the above facts are true, then the book should have the right to confiscate all deposits. Having this right would end low class scum like this from trying to abuse bonuses.

Durito, I realize this is exactly the kind of thing you like to do which explains why you didn't like what I said.

HOWEVER, YOUR OPINION IS WORTHLESS!!!

There are not sufficient facts presented above as illustrated by TomCowley. You think he is stupid too?

[sideloaded]

The same IP range excuse is worthless. Some countries only have a few isps, and since ip v4 blocks have pretty much ran out more and more isps are natting. I use att and can have strikingly similar ip's to about 50,000 people. These books don't know jack when it comes to IP ranges.

[Mudcat]

Brutal stuff on the part of Moneybookers.

The logic that it might prevent some fraud so therefore violating the privacy of individuals is okay, is so shallow and airheaded, I don't know where to start.

Ugh. The ends justify the means. Sure, that philosophy has never caused any problems in human history.



Not just brutal, Moneybookers has taken a turn for the scummy.

[begalvis]

THis is such bullshit. Moneybookers giving inside information, comeon taking money because of the same IP range what nonsense...

[ohbrother]

Well done Moneybookers, just cost them thousands in inter-account transfers for a sportsbook that has little history and will probably end up bust within a couple of years (especially after this gets out), this book has betafterbet, betwize written all over it.

I'm so disappointed that SBR thinks this is acceptable. How the mighty have fallen.

[acarmelo1]

I think that is OK, for MoneyBookers to help books detect fraud.
Moneybookers makes a lot of $$ with this books, and it is in their interest to help them and not shut off the moneybookers deposit method.

If a book is being defrauded a lot by using Moneybookers, they will just stop taking deposits that way until they can find a way to stop it.

[nenad]

is this info that moneybookers helped comeon.com sportsbook to discover group beting confirmed by moneybookers?

[Thremp]

Virtually no book respects privacy. See the ********** issues. How do books learn about this from... other books?

In reality, the merchant/**** would have 0 clue whether you charged back with an offshore gambling site, a penis enlargement product, or a fraudulent online merchant. But yet... somehow SBR always alludes to books knowing about players who **********.

TIA.

No books respect your privacy.

[McFly86]

Moneybookers is supposed to pride themselves on their privacy policy, yet they're giving out customer information to some D-list book in Malta. What the hell is up with that ?

This.

[Thremp]

Can I get an SBR policy on the view of eWallets or books releasing information in violation of a privacy policy which isn't enough to form a fraud case?

Sure they are welcome to contact merchants who commit fraud but its pretty clear that if MB didn't close the eWallet accounts they don't have enough evidence to form a case and are just violated their privacy policy.

[horsiehung]

crazy

[shoukat]

Found thred in google about comeon.Week ago made deposit of 120euros,and claimed 100% bonus.After this i chated with administrator why it is not possible to combine bets on live,they told that it will be possible in nearly future.So i had placed multiple bets not in live,it took week.I turnet my balance into ~360euros and today requested withdrawl.They asked to enter passport number before withdrawl.Today evening i received only 120euros,and now i cant login to my account to see that is it.They still must work,i not found phone to call them,i just send message about that.I am a little woried,becouse i found some people had problems with this bookmaker.I will report then i will get answer from them about my situation.

[danica]

Found thred in google about comeon.Week ago made deposit of 120euros,and claimed 100% bonus.After this i chated with administrator why it is not possible to combine bets on live,they told that it will be possible in nearly future.So i had placed multiple bets not in live,it took week.I turnet my balance into ~360euros and today requested withdrawl.They asked to enter passport number before withdrawl.Today evening i received only 120euros,and now i cant login to my account to see that is it.They still must work,i not found phone to call them,i just send message about that.I am a little woried,becouse i found some people had problems with this bookmaker.I will report then i will get answer from them about my situation.

same happened to me today but my balance was 990eur,stay away from these thiefs.

[choo]

to add to the list of unanswered questions....please define: "same IP range"

[shoukat]

Got anwer from them

Dear Customer,

Your account has been closed due to a breach of our terms and conditions:


2.32 Multiple participations to the same bonus campaign from the same device/household/IP address are not allowed. In case it is noted that there is abuse of bonuses or any other promotions, the bonus/promotion will be forfeited and any funds on the players account will be frozen. Furthermore, the customer account may be closed by ComeOn at its own discretion

Please feel free to contact us with additional questions.

Yours Sincerely,
Bob - ComeOn's Customer Support

I am one hundred percent sure that nobody from my household and my computer never used their services,i have replied them this.I will report about news then whey will give me the answer.

[zebras99]

This is starting to look like an abuse from comeon.

[tomcowley]

Probably only a week or two before their banner is up. Along with the recent facilitation of 5crimes and greek ripping players off, we can officially declare SBR = Sponsor Books Robbing.

[shoukat]

Got answer from them today:

Dear Customer,

Your account will remain suspended and your winnings are voided, they will not be paid out under any circumstances.

I'm afraid this decision is final.

Yours Sincerely,
David - ComeOn's Customer Support

I found on their site this:

Highest European Standards
Being in Europe, means you have to pay attention ( and a lot of money ) to every single detail. And we do it well.

I not see any truth from this message.If they will not pay other balance i won,i have only one chose go to the police and they will investigate this.

[PSD999]

I agree with MB, but I dont understand why MB didnt block account of scam bookmakers and didnt refund money

[acarmelo1]

The same IP range excuse is worthless. Some countries only have a few isps, and since ip v4 blocks have pretty much ran out more and more isps are natting. I use att and can have strikingly similar ip's to about 50,000 people. These books don't know jack when it comes to IP ranges.

MoneyBookers dont USE the IP Excuse,

You can have 5 emails per MoneyuBooker account

SO I create 5 different mails like:

Mario@gmail.com
JJgold@gmail.com
Durito@gmail.com
Carmelo@gmail.com
fflol@gmail.com

Then create 5 different account on the same book with those 5 different emails.

All with different names, from different computers and all.

Then I start claiming bonuses and freeplays on each account.


So I am the same person with 5 accounts in the same book.

I dont think that fair for the book.

[potless]

MoneyBookers dont USE the IP Excuse,

You can have 5 emails per MoneyuBooker account

SO I create 5 different mails like:

Mario@gmail.com
JJgold@gmail.com
Durito@gmail.com
Carmelo@gmail.com
fflol@gmail.com

Then create 5 different account on the same book with those 5 different emails.

All with different names, from different computers and all.

Then I start claiming bonuses and freeplays on each account.


So I am the same person with 5 accounts in the same book.

I dont think that fair for the book.

I think you might be a genius
sweet jesus- let's ignore the 5 email accts being linked to one ID number and name - have you ever actually used moneybookers or had any idea what you are doing ?

[zebras99]

Why would you settle for 5? go for 55 fake accounts!

[sideloaded]

MoneyBookers dont USE the IP Excuse,

You can have 5 emails per MoneyuBooker account

SO I create 5 different mails like:

Mario@gmail.com
JJgold@gmail.com
Durito@gmail.com
Carmelo@gmail.com
fflol@gmail.com

Then create 5 different account on the same book with those 5 different emails.

All with different names, from different computers and all.

Then I start claiming bonuses and freeplays on each account.


So I am the same person with 5 accounts in the same book.

I dont think that fair for the book.

drugs are bad.

[Zamlel]

Hi! Comeon.com has stolen my money. And it doesn't have the justification. I wasn't engaged in swindle with Moneybookers. More than a year I use this payment system and never have any transfer money between my account and other people account. I was not engaged in any deception. I just did bet because I love doing it. However, Comeon.com do not pay me my winnings and returned only a deposit. They do so presumably because they are don't have money to pay all and has decided not to pay simply in some under any pretext. This bookies isn't worthy a rating C-. I have written the complaint 3 days ago http://www.sportsbookreview.com/Spor...Complaint.aspx .Only hope on SBR, really looking forward to your reply to my complaint. Sorry for my English.

[Dunderfisk]

"In addition to the above, Moneybookers reportedly notified ComeOn of transfers between the related accounts."

Great

I know for a fact that they do send info to bookies. Bet365 limited me because "I controlled many accounts" according to Justin7! Why didnt they throw me out if I cheated them?

How could they suspect I cheated?

The only explanation is MB. No one of my friends that also are playing at Bet365 has ever used my computer or network.

One friend that helped me painting in my house also had an account at Bet365. I sent him money via Moneybookers for the job. This transaction is the only explanation I can think of.

When I asked MB if they ever share my transactions with anybody else they said no. Obviously they are lying.