[SexyGamblerChick]

To whom it may concern:

I will admit I am new at this, and you can see this is my first post. I was in Costa Rica about a month and a half ago on vacation and someone was talking about BetEd.com and their juicy lines. I proceeded to sign up at my friend's office and had my mom put $1000 in the account via ** from back home in Minnesota. I did know they had juicy dog lines after talking to people explaining to me the advatage of betting the "good" number with the "right" side. Of course, they said I could lose but I had a good chance with those unreal numbers.

I played that weekend at my friends office for the first 7 plays (i know it is 7 because BetEd told me this). The following plays for the next 4 to 5 weeks were all from my home in Minnesota following coming home from vacation. I ran this original $1000 into $18970. I didn't even watch half the games or know much about football, but I would just compare their lines to Pinnicle's number and just bet the ones that were the most off. It was so awesome, I felt like the greatest sports gambler ever, and I was having a ball. I would just keep winning and winning so I didn't see the need to attempt to withdraw any of it. Is this way of gambling on sports not "allowed" or what?

I called BetEd for a withdrawal, and after a lot of talk with numberous customer service people over two weeks, they finally agreed to give me two payouts per week for $1500 until the balance was totally withdrawn. While I did want all of the money, I went along with this. They were going to send $1500 to **, and $1500 to my bank account for the first two payments. The next day I signed into my account to look at the lines and my account did not work. I checked my email and they told me my BetEd account was closed. I called customer service and they said the only way I was allowed to contact them from now on was email. I demanded to talk to a manager and they hung up on me.

I read over their website and they said they dont take customers from Costa Rica. I explained that I was not from Costa Rica and that I am from Minnesota, and that is where my deposit was from, along with the vast majority of my wagers. They said it did not matter because the account was signed up in Costa Rica then everything after that was null & void.

To be honest this is the first sportsbook that I have ever signed up with. I am a 29 year old single mother of one and I was more than thrilled to know that I had almost 19k in this account and could not stop thinking about the things I was going to buy. I talked to my friend who told me to post on this site to see if anyone could do anything for me. Yesterday was trick or treating with my daughter or I would have posted this sooner.

Beted says they will refund the orginal $1000. This I found out yesterday and I have saved all emails between us. I can post these if this will help me at all. I dont know what else to do and I know there is no regulation and no one to make them pay me my money. I did not take a screenshot of my account and balance and now wish I did by my account number was xxxxx.

Please, if anyone has any ideas please, please let me know. I feel totally depressed and hopeless. My email is xxxxxxxxx.

[vanman]

I would say you haven`t got a leg to stand on IMO.

[Junkyard Dog]

Shoot a email to Assistance@SportsbookReview.com

Also SGC or a mod delete the account # this is a public forum

[bigboydan]

I can't help not to think that the new rules come in to play here in this case.

please fill out this complaint form with your details, and one of us will inquire to BetEd on your behalf.

[Justin7]

I hate to call bullshit, but your story doesn't add up. Inexperienced gamblers don't play the "Pinnacle lean", or run up a balance that quickly with that method of betting.

That said, you might still have a case. I don't see anything in their T&C prohibiting a Costa Rican account. Even if they did, the remedy is not to confiscate the winnings.

Edit - at the bottom of their T&C, it disallows players from Costa Rico. Still, if you can verify your nationality, it would look like you are in compliance.

[rm18]

no Costa Rican books allow Costa Rican players for tax purposes

[goldengoat]

i am suspicious

[JC]

Sounds like a robbery to me.

I don't think you'd be getting the $1,000 back if you lost it.

The nonsense never stops.

[SexyGamblerChick]

Listen, this is not my first sports bet of my life. I lived in Las Vegas the last three years before moving to Minnesota. I made many bets there and as you can imagine I lost overall. However everytime I won a wager I had no issue getting paid.

Through talking to my friends who are poker players and sports gamblers, I have learned a thing or two. They have told me that if you can get a full pt the best of it, that you are actually the favorite on the game and will win in the long run.

Once the money was in the account, I might not have bet the smartest. I bet $500 on two games right away with my $1000 deposit. Now I have learned I should have spread it out more with $100 on many more games with the advantage of the points they give you. But also I know this, I might have have a few pts the best of it, but who is to say I should not have gone 0-2 ??

The point of the matter to me though, is that I feel like I won fair and square and they are just looking for excuses not to pay. I dont know how else to look at this matter. I have since emailed them asking for whatever money they are willing to send me and have had zero response back from Greg Johnson, the account manager @ beted. Customer Service continues to hang up on me.

I have filled a formal complain on that form to SportsBookReview, and I will foward all emails if that will help as well.

[Dark Horse]

Where's that spelling police picture?

Perfect spelling throughout, sharp enough to play Pinnacle leans, and manages to misspell that as Pinnicle. Dumbing the angle down on purpose? (I've never seen it spelled like that on any forum). Not buying the neon pink act, or the 'I now know I should have bet only $100 per game' either. This looks like someone who knows exactly what he's doing, and making it look otherwise. But that's not the point.

Regardlessly, bets should be honored. Just another CR book looking for any excuse not to pay out.

[Dark Horse]

Almost all sports bettors are male. So there may be some identity related stuff here. Who knows? Maybe a dual identity small bonus scam going terribly wrong?

[SexyGamblerChick]

Listen, this is insane. I dont know why the whole world is worried because a woman wins at betting. My friend signed this up under that name, he is helping me with this. Like I said I didn't post ever before, and never bet online before.

The bets however, after Costa Rica, came from my apartment, and I made them. All you guys love to look into this deeply, but it is what it is.

I would love for BetED or someone from there to call me, so I can prove my story, but to be honest I really dont care too much about that. I just want the money. 19k! That is a lot of money to me, and I know a lot of you guys might bet that on one game, but this is the world to me.

And I like pink. So goto hell on that.

[Dark Horse]

Listen, this is insane. I dont know why the whole world is worried because a woman wins at betting. My friend signed this up under that name, he is helping me with this. Like I said I didn't post ever before, and never bet online before.

Your friend signed you up, because you're new to this, but you know how to 'make pink'... That's harder than signing up.

Same friend that signed you up with the book, by any chance?

I'm not suggesting the book isn't wrong. But you are too funny. Let's see what we got so far. A sexy chick that likes pink, has never bet on sports before, bets $1000 a game (?), and runs up winnings to about 20K, using the Pinnacle lean... And all of that in one of the most male-dominated disciplines of any. Then again, you have a friend to help you.

I can feel the music...

She likes pink
She bets a dime
She's just a little girl
She's not a crime

[chano]

To be honest this is the first sportsbook that I have ever signed up with.
I talked to my friend who told me to post on this site to see if anyone could do anything for me.
I did not take a screenshot of my account and balance and now wish I did by my account number was xxxxx.

The above statements lead me to believe that this is not your first Job.
I call bull shit.

[20Four7]

If she truely is female, I'll take one for the team and see if she's as sexy as she makes out.

Then again, file a complaint with SBR and see what happens, then we'll all know for sure.

[pokernut9999]

Curious said he never made a sports bet before and turned 2k into 30k.

So it can be done.

And he got stiffed and everyone laughed at him and it turns out he was telling the truth.

[Dark Horse]

All about the story. Curious story was never strange.

[curious]

Listen, this is insane. I dont know why the whole world is worried because a woman wins at betting. My friend signed this up under that name, he is helping me with this. Like I said I didn't post ever before, and never bet online before.

The bets however, after Costa Rica, came from my apartment, and I made them. All you guys love to look into this deeply, but it is what it is.

I would love for BetED or someone from there to call me, so I can prove my story, but to be honest I really dont care too much about that. I just want the money. 19k! That is a lot of money to me, and I know a lot of you guys might bet that on one game, but this is the world to me.

And I like pink. So goto hell on that.

Don't listen to these jackasses. If you signed up using your USA address and you made your deposit from the USA it doesn't matter where you made your bets from. The sportsbook is just using the fact that you were in Costa Rica as an exuse to steal your money. You need to raise hell about this on every forum you can find. Harass the shit out of the sportsbook. This is robbery.

[JBC77]

Maybe we should wait to see what the mods say. Let them investigate it before we start crucifying people. Stranger things have happened.

Of course seasoned posters will be reluctant. They've seen plenty of scamsters cry for help.

On the other hand, it wouldn't be the first time a book called a rule into play after the player has won. Always seems to be after the player wins. Glad to take your money if you lose it though. We've witnessed a lot of that as well.

Let SBR do it's thing.....

[curious]

Maybe we should wait to see what the mods say. Let them investigate it before we start crucifying people. Stranger things have happened.

Of course seasoned posters will be reluctant. They've seen plenty of scamsters cry for help.

On the other hand, it wouldn't be the first time a book called a rule into play after the player has won. Always seems to be after the player wins. Glad to take your money if you lose it though. We've witnessed a lot of that as well.

Let SBR do it's thing.....

The rule is "people who live in Costa Rica". Not, "people who visit Costa Rica". If it wasn't this excuse it would be some other excuse.

[Dark Horse]

BigJuicySexyWithHairyLegs.com for that book John wanted a name for.

Hope you get your money.

[SexyGamblerChick]

Listen, this is not MySpace, and I am really glad everyone is getting a kick out of my nightmare situation. I am just trying to get my money that I feel that I should be paid. I would love for someone from SBR to call me so I can just talk to one person and we can get this story strait.

Doesn't take a brilliant person to figure out how to make it pink. I spelled one word wrong that I dont normally use so I am a total idiot? If you want me to talk about "Hanna Montana" or "Sweet Life of Zach & Cody" I am sure I can do that just fine.

I just got another email from Greg Johnson from BetEd and he said he would be happy to talk with anyone from SBR, so maybe this will get me somewhere. He also says he will pay me $1000. These are the facts of the case and I would love for people to check the story with them.

I am going to bed now, so I hope all you guys enjoy bashing me all night.

[GitRDone]

Don't let these "guys" get to you, the majority of them couldn't turn $1000 into $2000 let alone what you are claiming. Hope everything works out for you. Oh yeah, I use to live in Vegas and you would be surprised how many "female" bettors there are. I have met plenty in my day, though you usually don't see them hanging around the sportsbook and watching the games.

[forex]

why would she lie about this? whats the benefit? what kind of monetary benefit can be achieved by this anyways, how is it a scam?

[rm18]

this book has paid me a large amount, so I think you will get paid if SBR agrees with you, hard to tell what the truth is here though

[louis]

Wow, weird post. Advantage player acting like a woman who knows nothing about sports.

Contact SBR, assistance@sportsbookreview.com, if your purple post and its contents are not a joke.

Believe it or not I absolutely agree with you, purple poster, that the winnings are yours and BET ED is to pay them promptly.

Advantage players have every right to their winnings, and SBR will go to bat for you. It doesn't matter if you are a single mother of one, a stripper, a boxer, or a professional gambler, whether someone told you to bet, or whether you picked your bets on your own, or someone who writes purple posts picked them for you.

IF BET ED ACCEPTED THE BET, AND THE BET WON, THEN BET ED MUST PAY THE BET, PERIOD.

I am sick and tired of sportsbooks coming up with excuses not to pay. Anyone who has been to Costa Rica knows that woman who speak like this are not from Costa Rica.

Unless the website forbids those travelling in Costa Rica on vacation from using their service, and makes an effort to block these IP addresses, then bet ed MUST PAY WINNING BETS. Otherwise, I conclude if she had lost, they would not have refunded her money because she was on vacation to Costa Rica when she lost it.

Do you guys think Betcris, Bookmaker, Betmaker, 5 Dimes, Jazz, Looselines, ABC Islands, any of these Costa Rican books would cancel your bets because you made the bet while on vacation in Costa Rica? Are they also canceling the losing bets of those that were made in Costa Rica? When a website says we do not accept bets from Costa Ricans, they are talking about Costa Rican citizens. This woman sound like a Costa Rican citizen? She went to a very good English school, didn't she.

I would suggest, purple poster, that you scan in and email a copy of your U.S. passport or U.S. birth certificate to assistance at sportsbookreview.com as well, if this is going to bet Bet Ed's excuse.

This is my opinion, and I don't care if this "lady" misreprepresents herself, posts purple, goes down to SBR offices and strips and dances for the crew and acts like a fool, or vacations anywhere in the world she wants and makes bets from each of these locations, "she" or "he" is entitled to "her" money from Bet Ed, PERIOD.

[joe blow]

Advantage players = lines shoppers,nothing wrong with that!!.
What ever happened to book a bet pay off the winning

[Iwinyourmoney]

who cares if it's even DR BOB or JJGOLD?? She won the money. She placed the bets. She won. Pay her!

[louis]

What baffles me is why this person thinks he or she has to deny being an advantage player, or there is something wrong with taking a vacation in Costa Rica and playing at a book, when the book is clearly talking about Costa Rican citizens in their rules. I find it really intresting that they identify the Costa Rican IP addresses of winners, but overlook the IP Addresses of losers. This is complete bull crap.

Please purple sexy poster, email assistance@sportsbook.com with a copy of your U.S. passport or birth certificate. I would also urge anyone who was on vacation in Costa Rica who lost at Bet Ed to do the same. Lets see if they are selectively applying a policy, like the bandits over at sportsbook.com.

This BET ED outfit needs to pay this woman, or join the sportsbook.com, SBG, and Futurebook, group of thugs.

[bigboydan]

I hate to call bullshit, but your story doesn't add up. Inexperienced gamblers don't play the "Pinnacle lean", or run up a balance that quickly with that method of betting.

That said, you might still have a case. I don't see anything in their T&C prohibiting a Costa Rican account. Even if they did, the remedy is not to confiscate the winnings.

Edit - at the bottom of their T&C, it disallows players from Costa Rico. Still, if you can verify your nationality, it would look like you are in compliance.

No crime against being a fast learner on this stuff Justin.

If you noticed that some of those rules did indeed change since she/he signed up originally as well, which I must admit makes me wonder.

Another thing that stands out to me is the fact that they offered and agreed on a payment plan.

[louis]

When a book dissallows "players from Costa Rica", that doesn't seem to me to dissallow players on vacation in Costa Rica. A matter of fact, it wouldn't even disallow players who have decided to spend 6 months in Costa Rica. "From Costa Rica" means you were born there, or are a citizen. If you are a U.S. citizen with a legal residency there, it is not even clear if "from Costa Rica" includes this or not. Sexy woman with the purple post, don't give up even if you set up a temporary residence in Costa Rica. If you are still a U.S. citizen, you still have a good case. Probably a copy of a U.S. driver's license would be enough to convince SBR to go to bat for you.

I also would not be satisfied with a payment plan. She didn't agree to loan Bet Ed her winnings, if she won. This is ridiculous. If Bet Ed can't handle the payment, then they need to go to the blacklist now.

[20Four7]

Why can't these books just block the IP. When I try to go to Scandicbookmaker it says I can't view the site because they don't accept players based on my IP. Party poker is the same if I'm travelling in the US (they still accept canadians). Why do these books selectively after the fact decide oooops look at the IP of the winner trying to cash out then make a decision. Book the bet, pay the bet.

It seems now after you sweat the games you gotta sweat the payouts too.

[louis]

Most books that do not accept U.S. citizens if you read their rules word by word what it says is if you are a U.S. citizen or legal resident you can not use the book anywhere, however if you are not a U.S. citizen or legal resident you can use the book anywhere you want, including while physically in the United States.

What the books like Pinnacle want to do eventually, is change the policy to not allow use of their site while physically in the U.S. regardless of citizenship, which would allow US players to play at Pinnacle while in Aruba, the same way they can play in the Aruban casinos.

At some point the IP issues will be ironed out, and you will see Pinnacle come back for those customers willing to spend the day in canada or mexico to get their bets in.

The U.S. laws against wire taping, and even the newest financial legislation absolutely does not apply to a U.S. citizen using his computer outside of the United States. Unfortunately it does apply to non uS citizens while in the U.S., and I'm sure some sportsbooks are getting concerned about this.

[noyb]

Unfortunately it does apply to non uS citizens while in the U.S., and I'm sure some sportsbooks are getting concerned about this.

as 20four7 said, there's a very easy way solving this problem and that is by blocking ip's from restricted countries. non-us citizens and us citizens alike, holiday or permantenly residing in the us, will not be able to bet as long as they are within us borders (forgetting proxies for now).

it's a very easy technical procedure, and there's no excuse for not doing it, other than hoping customers from restricted countries lose all their money. if they do not lose but happen to actually win, you don't have to pay them anyway, since you can cry breach of regulations. it's a win-win for a the book, the reason why they do not block ips problably.

whoever the original poster really is, the book should pay based on the information there is.

[curious]

Why can't these books just block the IP. When I try to go to Scandicbookmaker it says I can't view the site because they don't accept players based on my IP. Party poker is the same if I'm travelling in the US (they still accept canadians). Why do these books selectively after the fact decide oooops look at the IP of the winner trying to cash out then make a decision. Book the bet, pay the bet.

It seems now after you sweat the games you gotta sweat the payouts too.

The answer to your question is simple. All these books love to be in the situation where losing bets count and winning bets are negotiable. They look for any and every reason to invalidate winning bets.

I think SBR should have a a very strict policy for a book to get above a D- rating. If an online book offers a line, and a customer offers a bet on that line, and the online book accepts the bet, then the bet must be graded and winnings must be paid. PERIOD. Any book found to be routinely voiding winnings should immediately be put on the black list.