sportingbet closed my account

[sbrzol]

do not bet on SportingBet, they will not warn you, they will close your account when your balance is high enough, profit maximizing

bookmaker : sportingbet
Date of registering: 19 June 2010 ( more than 45 days)
Number of deposits (Neteller): 15 , value: 1555 EUR
Number of withdrawals : 3 , value: 700 EUR
Number of bets: 69
Current account balance: 847 EUR

so my profit/loss is about zero ( balance + withdrawal - deposited equal about zero)
i did not ask for bonus, so sportingbet has no/zero loss

The Neteller account belongs to my friend who lives in the same apartment as me. He allowed me to use his Vip neteller account, after 1 month he quits from betting.
(so they did not played on/with sportingbet more than 2-3 month, i asked sportingbet to check it. )
Sporintgbet has no such rule that this is forbidden. (That the e-wallet owners name must be the same as the sportingbet account owners name)

(I had a same issue with another bookmaker, but after i created my e-wallet, the site payed me out to my new e-wallet, and i am still playing on their site)

At my last (4th) withdrawal request they asked my and my frined documents , i sent them. After one day they answerd that they closed my account ,and denied to send back the money (847 EUR) to Neteller.

I sent them a new email, to explain my right, that i have only one account, etc. They answerd the same.
(They known everything before i sent all of the required documents, but they only closed my account after they received them. is it fair play? i placed my bets and sent all documentes in all good faith. )

http://www.sportingbet.com/t/info/rules/rules.aspx#General

4.7 "Sportingbet reserves the right to reclaim any winnings attained by these means."

I ask them to send me my betting history, beacuse in their rules they only "reserves the right to reclaim any winnings" but this means only winnings, and the money that did not take part in bets is
not winnings, only deposited money. (They did not send me the betting history, they did as i ask for nothing)
So if i have such money on my account that is not winnings sportingbet has no right to reclaim it.

Rule that they do not keep: "Sportingbet allows only one account per person and these details are stored and checked on our database daily. " "All new registrations are monitored to ensure that
duplicate accounts are not opened so please adhere to these conditions."

They claim that they check their customers daily. In my case they checked me only after 45 days, after 15 deposits , after 3 withdrawals , after 69 bets. (In this time i played on its page in good faith.)
I could image that they checked me earlier but they wait until now, to maximalize they profit with such account closing procedures.
They should check me at my first withdrawal when my balance was only about 300 EUR (not 847EUR) , but they do not keep their own rules.
And after all of that they made the worst possibility in its customers aspect.
i also offered them that i identify myself personally. (Appear in the flesh.)

i had another issue with sportingbet 1 month ago and i contacted to sbr,bookmakersreview.com and sbr, at that time everything was ok with me
sportingbet did not observe their own rules , did not warn me that something is against the rules, only after 45 days , when my balance is so high
perhaps they were waiting for the "appropriate" moment (higher balance) , and they know (at my first deposit) that they will close my account soon

i contacted to bookmakersreview.com , AGCC and sbr

bookmakersreview.com:
Like i said there is nothing I can nor I want to do in this case. You can
contact IBAS or the Gambling Commission. If like you said Sportingbet
doesn't have a rule against payment using other people accounts, I'm sure
they will be able to help.
AGCC : . I can confirm that we are in full support of the operator's decision to close your account. From the evidence we've been provided, it is clear that you have acted in breach of the terms and conditions that you agreed to adhere to when registering with Sportingbet and that they are within their rights to close your account and retain the balance. No further action will be taken on your complaint against Sportingbet.

SBR: no answer yet

i have not got my betting history yet, and AGCC thinks everything is OK , and will do nothing, like earlier every time i contacted to them.

This situation is not only my responsibility, I admit I made a mistake , but sportingbet made a mistake too (15 deposit, 3 withdrawal, 69 bet, 45 day, do not warn me in time, dont to this) why should i pay for everything and sportingbet nothing

[Ruifgalmeida]

Sorry dude that was not a smart move, it is standart that the account and deposit have to belong to the same name(because of money fraud), You will problably get your money back but your account will stay closed for a while.Dont ever deposit in a gambling site via a friend.

[LGBoots]

It seems ultra harsh as you took no bonus with them

Sportingbet however will take any opportunity to seize funds & you unwittingly gave them the excuse to do so .

Surely however they should at least refund you your deposit

[Peep]

Today's lesson: Scalping and buying into books under another's identity is a high risk occupation.

[Hareeba!]

Today's lesson: Scalping and buying into books under another's identity is a high risk occupation.

particularly in well regulated jurisdictions where the operators aren't prepared to risk breaking the laws/rules under which they are licensed

[acarmelo1]

This can be seeing as money laundering . I deposit with my "freinds account" which he funded with a bunch of stolen credit cards. I deposit the funds on a Sports Book play a little the request a withdraw to another account "My Account" the money is no longer from stolen credit cards, it is from the sportsbook. Money is now clean.

[GGZOLA]

are you serious bro?

[eightballer41]

This can be seeing as money laundering . I deposit with my "freinds account" which he funded with a bunch of stolen credit cards. I deposit the funds on a Sports Book play a little the request a withdraw to another account "My Account" the money is no longer from stolen credit cards, it is from the sportsbook. Money is now clean.

interesting indeed...

[acarmelo1]

I am not saying that I do this, but when you have 2 neteller or moneybookers account, stating that one of those is "your friend" account, the sportsbooks assume what I wrote so becareful with that.

[Hareeba!]

I am not saying that I do this, but when you have 2 neteller or moneybookers account, stating that one of those is "your friend" account, the sportsbooks assume what I wrote so becareful with that.

they don't have to assume anything
they are required by regulations to ensure accounts match IDs provided and that funds are returned first to the originating source
too many people here have only played with books in unregulated jurisdictions and find it hard to cop these security measures

[betpartners]

Never ever bet with Sportingbet, their reputation is in the gutter, the fact that you gave them the ammunition to do this is besides the point because if they decided to screw you over they would have done anyway.

Shit, if i owned Sportingbet i would not trust my money with them,

[oopfish]

i only bet B+ or better

[zebras99]

I bet with sportingbet for more than 2 years.
I've been constantly winning and cashing out money. They dropped limits on my account (not as high as other bookies) but I never had any problems with them.

I guess, you have to treat them according to their rules and you'll be fine.

[Hareeba!]

I bet with sportingbet for more than 2 years.
I've been constantly winning and cashing out money. They dropped limits on my account (not as high as other bookies) but I never had any problems with them.

I guess, you have to treat them according to their rules and you'll be fine.

Agreed

I played with them for some years and the only problem I had was ever decreasing limits to the point it just wasn't worthwhile any more

They operate in a well regulated environment and certainly aren't crooks

[LGBoots]

They are not crooks but they can be a right pain in the butt.

They often offer free bets but when you come to claim them they usually put you through the wringer before (If you are lucky) you will get your freebie credited

Also I can usually only get around 50p on any horse race now, which makes them a total waste of space to me

I often wonder how they survive, but I guess they have loads of mug punters who take the crap prices & don't bother shopping around for the best value.

[Mexes]

like zebras99 i've never had any problems with sportingbet. in my opinion they are a very reliable sportsbook.

[Ruifgalmeida]

They are not crooks but they can be a right pain in the butt.

They often offer free bets but when you come to claim them they usually put you through the wringer before (If you are lucky) you will get your freebie credited

Also I can usually only get around 50p on any horse race now, which makes them a total waste of space to me

I often wonder how they survive, but I guess they have loads of mug punters who take the crap prices & don't bother shopping around for the best value.

I bet with them because they exccelent props in soccer and a good live betting. Of course they only accept mug punters and win in their crappy odds,if you get to sharp they will kick you out.

[vlado]

I have some problem. I give a complaint at sportingbet.

[Tony Cash]

Only good experience with Sportingbet. Also got limited but still play there sometimes.

[peterd78]

using a "friend's" account is always going to get you in trouble, as previously stated bookmakers will automatically suspect fraud when they hear that word. It was foolish to do it and if you didn't realise the I feel sorry for you but they've got you by the balls...an expensive lesson to learn.

[Misha]

Scalping and buying into books under another's identity is a high risk occupation.

[Landprofits]

They are not crooks but they can be a right pain in the butt.

They often offer free bets but when you come to claim them they usually put you through the wringer before (If you are lucky) you will get your freebie credited

Also I can usually only get around 50p on any horse race now, which makes them a total waste of space to me

I often wonder how they survive, but I guess they have loads of mug punters who take the crap prices & don't bother shopping around for the best value.

I too wonder how they survive. They limit to pennies after a couple of bets, yet their odds are crap.

Crap book whether you're pro or recreational.

[davidchong]

that is the rule,

[ucbearcats1027]

dude dont bet stream we got u

[lukahh]

i contacted to bookmakersreview.com , AGCC and sbr

bookmakersreview.com:
Like i said there is nothing I can nor I want to do in this case. You can
contact IBAS or the Gambling Commission. If like you said Sportingbet
doesn't have a rule against payment using other people accounts, I'm sure
they will be able to help.
AGCC : . I can confirm that we are in full support of the operator's decision to close your account. From the evidence we've been provided, it is clear that you have acted in breach of the terms and conditions that you agreed to adhere to when registering with Sportingbet and that they are within their rights to close your account and retain the balance. No further action will be taken on your complaint against Sportingbet.

SBR: no answer yet

i have not got my betting history yet, and AGCC thinks everything is OK , and will do nothing, like earlier every time i contacted to them.

see? nobody can help you. you seriously breached rules of the game.

[virtozo]

how come shitty books like sportingbet discover the 'money-laundering' thing only on withrawals?? there is no 'fraud' on deposits!!! you are welcome to deposit from whatever account only if you loose; if you win oops shared IP, oops money-laundering or some other lame excuse.

[pellumb341]

I did the same at 188bet ,but they were well understanding and helped me .

I opened an account at 188bet under my name ,but i deposited via my brother's MB account . Why i did this? Because this was the first time i was gambling online,it was the first account i opened , i was newbie and i didn't know the rules .
Because not everyone is pro ,there are a lot of newbies who don't know the rules . I didn't know that they must be the same . I deposited ,played there ,withdrew 2-3 times ...then when i withdrew about 1k, they requested me a screenshot of MB account . I told them that i had used my brother's MB account .Then they told me to open my own MB account ,i opened it immediately and since then everything is OK .

Am i also accused of fraud ? hahahahahahhahah

Sportingbet must do the same like 188bet ,and they have no rights to confiscate your deposit ,but only your winnings .