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  • ShamsWoof10
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    • 11-15-06
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    #1
    Sportsbook.com Debate: Wolf vs. Hog
    Originally posted by HedgeHog
    They also said it was okay to have accounts at sister books, and now they are stealing money from those people. Seems like SB is making up the rules as they go along. You won't get it until they steal your money; you're just too self-absorbed. If they want your money, they will take it.
    Oh really?? Ok HOGG put up or shut up... You don't like to call to tell them you are going "HOGGIN'" so call them and ask them if it's ok to have accounts at sister sites.. I bet they say yes then ask them if you can bet no juice games with opposite sides to get the bonus money and see what they say...

    I'll be waiting for the pasted response from CS...

    Why do you two NOT TO MENTION EVERYONE HERE fail to address the fact that bonus abuse is possible... Oh because you might be doing it too but you are probably not using the same book to hedge but a differant one... I know you're "HOGGIN'"... That's fine but don't play stupid dude...

    Why is it NOT ONE PERSON has asked if this guy was abusing the bonus..? They would if it was any other book in question.. Sh*t they would spend days trying to figure out if that person is a ghost (like that has anything to do with it) or want screen shots... Not in this case... Poster is not guilty and the book is and this decision was quickly made by you all...

  • HedgeHog
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    #2
    Shams:

    Not familiar with the term "hoggin", but I think I get the general idea. I'm not calling SB for anything; I left there. You call them if you're that insecure. And while you're on the phone with them, ask them what's the difference between betting correlated pars vs Ifs--both of which are not allowed now. Think you're safe? Then PM your account # so I can email them about correlated IFs. How confident are you that they won't then steal your money. As you say, put up or shut up. I'm hoping for Shut Up!
    Last edited by HedgeHog; 11-12-07, 09:03 PM.
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    • ShamsWoof10
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      #3
      Originally posted by HedgeHog
      Shams:

      Not familiar with the term "hoggin", but I think I get the general idea. I'm not calling SB for anything; I left there. You call them if you're that insecure. And while you're on the phone with them, ask them what's the difference between betting correlated pars vs Ifs--both of which are not allowed now. Think you're safe? Then PM your account # so I can email them about correlated IFs. How confident are you that they won't then steal your money. As you say, put up or shut up. I'm hoping for Shut Up!
      What kind of f*ckin' mental disease do you have...? Man dude I can see why you didn't catch the T & A's... Sh*t they would have to POUND IT IN YOUR FACE because you either can't read or can't understand...

      FOR THE STUPID HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!

      I ONLY BET IF BETS FOR HALFTIMES..or used to... THEY DO NOT OFFER THEM ANYMORE YOU IDIOT!!!! What part of that don't you get..??? I do not know if they allow correlated GAME LINES.. If I want to even think about playing one I would not try the "HOGGIN'" method and just put it in hoping I won't get caught... As I said a hundred times ..when in doubt call CS and if I decide to play one I will call CS and find out myself... I called and asked about my IF BETS when this happened and they said it's not in the T & A and I was fine... They changed their mind... Geeee I think I posted this already MANY TIMES but some people are just that stupid I guess!!!

      How many times are you gonna ask for my account number so you can ask them to check on IF BETS they don't offer anymore... How stupid!!!

      Last edited by ShamsWoof10; 11-12-07, 09:19 PM.
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      • HedgeHog
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        #4
        Half-time, full game what's the difference? If it's same game with total --it's correlated. Yet you bitch when others do it. And you took the re-up bonuses there too, so it makes you a bonus scammer also (and a hypocrite).
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        • ShamsWoof10
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          #5
          Originally posted by HedgeHog
          Half-time, full game what's the difference? If it's same game with total --it's correlated. Yet you bitch when others do it. And you took the re-up bonuses there too, so it makes you a bonus scammer also (and a hypocrite).
          How stupid are you..? There is NOTHING WRONG WITH TAKING BONUSES... I do take them but I don't play them against each other at sister books... Don't be stupid dude not even you are that stupid.... or are you?

          Halftime , full game what's the differance.. You should know it was YOU WHO PLAYED FIRST HALF CORRLEATED PARLAYS!!!

          There must be a differance because they offer one and not the other...

          FOR THE RECORD I B*TCH WHEN OTHERS DON'T READ T & A's and cry about it... You tried to scam them and got caught then B*TCH SLAPPED!!!

          I don't need to listen to you idiots I have an account at four of their sister books and they have no problem with it... NOW WHY IS THAT???????????????????????????????????? ???

          Last edited by ShamsWoof10; 11-12-07, 09:27 PM.
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          • ShamsWoof10
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            #6
            Hey don't get me wrong I don't want any of the HOG like players to play there... It's better Hog and some of you others are NOT there... It's not good for the book!!!

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            • HedgeHog
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              #7
              I played correlated pars for years at SB, first half side/total, and full game side and total. There's was never a reason to call about these bets--they were always accepted. Then SB outlaws them this year retroactively stealing thousands. You support them, yet you pull a similar stunt. If they were to review your account, don't fool yourself that they won't go back in time and steal your money too, moron. We'll pick this up tomorrow; I'm done babysitting you tonight.
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              • ShamsWoof10
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                #8
                Originally posted by HedgeHog
                I played correlated pars for years at SB, first half side/total, and full game side and total. There's was never a reason to call about these bets--they were always accepted .
                So f*ckin' what... For years Players Only gave a reload bonus and now they don't... They can't change their mind..? It says in their T & A they can change their mind but I forgot you don't think those apply to you!!!

                Originally posted by HedgeHog
                If they were to review your account,
                I asked them MYSELF to review my account when I called you dipsh*t... It's not like I didn't say this BEFORE and I am sure I will repeat myself to you again... Why do things have to be said to you a million times before you get it..???

                That nice kick in your as* should teach you not to try and get one over on them again... or at the very least it should teach you to read T & A's more often... I bet you still don't...

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                • HedgeHog
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                  #9
                  Shams quote:
                  I don't need to listen to you idiots I have an account at four of their sister books and they have no problem with it... NOW WHY IS THAT???????????????????????????????????? ???

                  [/QUOTE]


                  They have no problem because you are a loser, four times over apparently. If you were collecting consistently, they would steal it. With you, they don't have to.


                  I agree with the term "selective theft" used by some; SB just steals from the winners. That's their new business model.
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                  • ShamsWoof10
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by HedgeHog
                    Shams quote:
                    I don't need to listen to you idiots I have an account at four of their sister books and they have no problem with it... NOW WHY IS THAT???????????????????????????????????? ???




                    They have no problem because you are a loser, four times over apparently. If you were collecting consistently, they would steal it. With you, they don't have to.


                    I agree with the term "selective theft" used by some; SB just steals from the winners. That's their new business model.
                    Well you must have ADD because I mentioned that I requested a payout (actually 2 now) from Linesmaker.. You can add that to the many things you miss the first time around.. sh*t the 10th time around for that matter...

                    You just make sh*t up don't you..? Who are you to call anyone a loser..? You think you pick winners and win and I lose..? I don't scam bonuses or free bets like you maybe that's how you get paid out...

                    Last edited by ShamsWoof10; 11-13-07, 11:47 AM.
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                    • Bill Dozer
                      www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                      • 07-12-05
                      • 10894

                      #11
                      Stealing is an art form for them now. They see what they do as trimming the fat off... Get rid of players who use what they offer to make money and mug them on the way out.
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                      • ShamsWoof10
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                        #12
                        Hey Bill I thought I asked a question...

                        TWICE!!!

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                        • Dark Horse
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                          #13
                          How can you possibly defend sportsbook.com?

                          Because you play there, and you can't be dumb enough to play at a sh*t book? Isn't that reverse psychosis?
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                          • ShamsWoof10
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dark Horse
                            How can you possibly defend sportsbook.com?

                            Because you play there, and you can't be dumb enough to play at a sh*t book? Isn't that reverse psychosis?
                            A sh*t book by YOUR standards..NOT MINE!!! so NO it's not!

                            I play at four others too.. Now let me ask you this DH.. Is it possible that bonus/free bet abuse happened here..?

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                            • HedgeHog
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                              #15
                              Sham:

                              Wow, two collections from your 4 SB accts, I had no idea how successful you are. What a joke!
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                              • ShamsWoof10
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                                #16
                                Sit and Spin d*ckhead!

                                Transaction #: 2xxxxxx0
                                Customer ID: 2xxxxxxx0
                                First Name: Kxxx
                                Last Name: Xxxxxxxxn
                                Street: XXX Xxxx St. #XX
                                City: Xxxxxx
                                State/Prov: Ohio
                                ZIP/Postal: 4xxxx
                                Country: United States
                                Email: Xxxxxxxx@aol.com
                                Withdrawal Amount: $1,000.00
                                Withdraw YYYY-MM-DD: 2007-11-11.20:47
                                Withdrawal Type: Check
                                Express Courier: Yes

                                Transaction #: 2xxxxxx1
                                Customer ID: 10xxxxxx0
                                First Name: Kxxxxxx
                                Last Name: Xxxxxxxx
                                Street: XXX Xxxx St. #XX
                                City: Xxxxxx
                                State/Prov: OH
                                ZIP/Postal: 4xxxx
                                Country: United States
                                Email: Xxxxxxxx@aol.com
                                Withdrawal Amount: $2,500.00
                                Withdraw YYYY-MM-DD: 2007-11-09.07:40
                                Withdrawal Type: Check
                                Express Courier: Yes

                                Transaction #: 2xxxxxx1
                                Customer ID: 10xxxxxx0
                                First Name: Kxxxxxx
                                Last Name: Xxxxxxxx
                                Street: XXX Xxxx St. #XX
                                City: Xxxxxx
                                State/Prov: OH
                                ZIP/Postal: 4xxxx
                                Country: United States
                                Email: Xxxxxxxx@aol.com
                                Withdrawal Amount: $2,500.00
                                Withdraw YYYY-MM-DD: 2007-11-09.20:23
                                Withdrawal Type: Check
                                Express Courier: Yes

                                Two are from one site and the other is from their sister site... They don't mind either you know why..? I don't go "HOGGIN'"... I play honest and I am there because they have the best in running action... Pinnacle doesn't even offer live action anymore and the ones that do juice the f*ck out of you...

                                I'M STAYIN'!!!!!! Even if they don't suck SBR off....

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                                • HedgeHog
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                                  #17
                                  How about posting all the deposits you made? Collecting doesn't make you a winner; collecting more than you deposit does. SB hasn't caught up to you because you are a net loser. It's profitable to keep you around. Plus they have you as their lapdog/spokesperson.
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                                  • ShamsWoof10
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                    How about posting all the deposits you made? Collecting doesn't make you a winner; collecting more than you deposit does. SB hasn't caught up to you because you are a net loser. It's profitable to keep you around. Plus they have you as their lapdog/spokesperson.
                                    How sure are you I am a net loser or are you just talking out of your free bet scammin' as*...?

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                                    • Dark Horse
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
                                      Now let me ask you this DH.. Is it possible that bonus/free bet abuse happened here..?


                                      These guys are known thieves. What do you think?
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                                      • ShamsWoof10
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                                        #20
                                        Well that's not what I asked you... You may be getting SBR posters syndrome...

                                        Let me try again...

                                        Is it possible that someone can have an account at each of the sister sites and take their bonuses and free plays and play them against each other on a no juice or low juice game to abuse their policy..?

                                        Also is it possible that this complaint about abusing free bets is one of those cases..? I am not saying it is I am asking if it is possible... Now Bill DOZER doesn't seem to want to answer that question...can you?

                                        Last edited by ShamsWoof10; 11-13-07, 02:03 PM.
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                                        • HedgeHog
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                                          #21
                                          Basically SBR moved us to a separate thread, because you're too dumb to realize it and I'm too stupid to stop answering the one idiot that still supports SB (that would be you, Sham).
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                                          • ShamsWoof10
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                            Now it's suddenly wrong?
                                            No it was wrong before they finally got off their as* and changed it... They use to have IF Bets (not correlated just the option of IF) FOR YEARS but they don't now... So what they changed their mind... I said it before and I will say it again when you take a sucker out of a baby mouth they will cry about it even if the sucker will kill them... This is what is happening...

                                            When SBG bought Royal they made changes and one of them was no more IF Bets in certain cases... This was long before SBooo and I didn't cry about it...

                                            THINGS CHANGE!!! DEAL WITH IT!!!

                                            Last edited by ShamsWoof10; 11-13-07, 03:54 PM.
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                                            • HedgeHog
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                                              #23
                                              By T & A , do you mean T& C (terms and conditions). When you say T & A, I get a different picture altogether (being hetro), and a wouldn't expect a Butt Pirate like yourself to understand it.
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                                              • ShamsWoof10
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                By T & A , do you mean T& C (terms and conditions). When you say T & A, I get a different picture altogether (being hetro), and a wouldn't expect a Butt Pirate like yourself to understand it.
                                                Terms and Conditions ...Terms and Agreements...

                                                By the way this might help your visual some... When I say T & A think of that 10K that dissappeared in your account... That should help you keep it straight...d*ckhead!

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                                                • HedgeHog
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                                                  #25
                                                  Let's be honest, you stupid prick. You call everyone else on bonus abuse, yet you do it. You call everyone else on correlated bets, yet you do it (i.e. correlated IFs). You are just so pathetic that you have to point as others for the same thing you do. And because you get away with it, it makes you right?
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                                                  • ShamsWoof10
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                    Let's be honest, you stupid prick. You call everyone else on bonus abuse, yet you do it. You call everyone else on correlated bets, yet you do it (i.e. correlated IFs). You are just so pathetic that you have to point as others for the same thing you do. And because you get away with it, it makes you right?
                                                    Don't act like you lost your memory B*TCH!!! I called CS and asked about my IF Bets and not all of them were correlated...not even half of them... Most were two sides if there was more then one game at half...

                                                    YOU WOULD NOT CALL AND AFTER KNOWING THE SITAUATION YOU PUT IT IN ANYWAY... I CALLED YOU ON IT THEN... AND I'LL CALL YOU ON IT NOW you scammin' b*tch...

                                                    I have NEVER taken a free bet or asked for any bonus... If it is automatic I take it but I don't abuse them like you...

                                                    F*ckin' scammer...

                                                    They don't give any bonuses now and I am still there.. They give the free bets but I don't do that sh*t..

                                                    Last edited by ShamsWoof10; 11-13-07, 05:55 PM.
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                                                    • HedgeHog
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                                                      #27
                                                      You want to call me a scammer, let's look at your moniker:

                                                      Sham: A fake or fraud---according to Webster (that's the dictionary Sham, where they define words)

                                                      Woof: The sound a dog makes.

                                                      So you're the barking crap of a fraud, and a poor one at that.
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                                                      • Bill Dozer
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                                                        #28
                                                        Guys,
                                                        Keep the food fight at your table.
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                                                        • HedgeHog
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                                                          #29
                                                          Point taken, BD!
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                                                          • ShamsWoof10
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
                                                            YOU WOULD NOT CALL AND AFTER KNOWING THE SITAUATION YOU PUT IT IN ANYWAY... I CALLED YOU ON IT THEN... AND I'LL CALL YOU ON IT NOW you scammin' b*tch...

                                                            Hmmm.. Let's see what the comeback was to this...

                                                            Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                            You want to call me a scammer, let's look at your moniker:

                                                            Sham: A fake or fraud---according to Webster (that's the dictionary Sham, where they define words)

                                                            Woof: The sound a dog makes.

                                                            So you're the barking crap of a fraud, and a poor one at that.
                                                            Oh good comeback.. Right on topic I see...

                                                            "Hedge" is when you bet one side, and knowing HHog, likely a no juice with a free bet against the exact opposite with free bets as well at no juice...

                                                            "Hog" is a nasty animal that over consumes... hmmm sound like the fraud you pulled on sportsbook.com so if the HedgeHog fits then wear it...

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                                                            • HedgeHog
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                                                              #31
                                                              I'd rather be a pig than a fraud. "Shame on you for doing for what I'm doing". Get a clue, asshole.
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                                                              • JBC77
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                                                                #32
                                                                Guys......are you f!@#ing kidding me? You guys opened up a thread to cat fight about the validity of a book?

                                                                You guys are better than this.

                                                                Through this f!@#er in the rubber room. Crack open a beer. Kiss and make up. Lets get back to business boys. F!@# the name calling bullsh1t.
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                                                                • HedgeHog
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  JBC:

                                                                  Neither one of us started this thread. We've had an ongoing fight about SB and it's going to continue. By the way, you can kiss Shams, not me. Keep in mind, he's a Butt Pirate and never refuted the point!


                                                                  PS Apology to JBC; Sham's just pisses me off.
                                                                  Last edited by HedgeHog; 11-13-07, 07:31 PM. Reason: Apology
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                                                                  • ShamsWoof10
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                                    I'd rather be a pig than a fraud. "Shame on you for doing for what I'm doing". Get a clue, asshole.
                                                                    You're both!!! Duuuuhhh you miss a lot don't you???

                                                                    He is claiming we are doing the same thing as that is NOT true..

                                                                    What I do:
                                                                    If a relaod is automatically granted I take it and bet as usual mostly straights...

                                                                    What he does:
                                                                    Takes every free bonus offer he can get every week all the time and uses sister books to bet them against each other at no or low juice to clear the rollover and extract the free bets and bonuses...

                                                                    I DON'T BONUS "HOGG" that is dirty...

                                                                    I'll give HHog ONE THING... at least he didn't try dening how he is scammin' that sh*t but to try and say I am doing the samething to save face is what I am pissed about...

                                                                    I like ONLY women as if that is not clear enough but HOGG misses a lot that has been clearly defined!!!

                                                                    Last edited by ShamsWoof10; 11-13-07, 06:57 PM.
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                                                                    • HedgeHog
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      You bend over for SB, so I just figure you bend over for anybody; you butt pirate.
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