[slayer14]

Guy had numerous winning bets on a parlay at the world cup including messi player of the tournament. Someone post a link to the story it on daily mail site.

[johnnyvegas13]

Never heard of them

[Allure]

They prolly don't even have 2.5k to their name.

[KVB]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-pay-out.html

Coral claims the bet shouldn't have been booked as it was basically a correlated parlay.

They say the odds should have been different in that case.

They also say the customer wrote his own odds on a piece of paper and that that wasn't official as the odds would be less if a correlated parlay is made.

Odd story with that little detail.

A bet was booked, probably should have been paid, but Coral does think they have a way out here.

Coral also offered to settle at what they think the odds should have been.

I'm still trying to figure out what the fukk this is...

[slayer14]

It a treble Argentina to win cup at 11-2 and Messi to be player of the tournament at 9-1 and Argentina and France final was 22-1

[thetrinity]

Looks like a 10 dollar bet not 15 but I think slips like this are common overseas.

[Fishhead]

CORAL still have the best lines for DARTS?

[KVB]

It a treble Argentina to win cup at 11-2 and Messi to be player of the tournament at 9-1 and Argentina and France final was 22-1

Correct, and Coral is going with the position that those are correlated.

Hence the settlement offer.

But it sure sounds like they did book the original bet and this bet was made in person.

[slayer14]

He should have got paid

[johnnyvegas13]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-pay-out.html

Coral claims the bet shouldn't have been booked as it was basically a correlated parlay.

They say the odds should have been different in that case.

They also say the customer wrote his own odds on a piece of paper and that that wasn't official as the odds would be less if a correlated parlay is made.

Odd story with that little detail.

A bet was booked, probably should have been paid, but Coral does think they have a way out here.

Coral also offered to settle at what they think the odds should have been.

I'm still trying to figure out what the fukk this is...

Looks like a restaurant bill

[Optional]

I dont see anywhere on that ticket that says his odds are 1495/1

How does it work in shops when you do multis? Surely you dont just get to write any old combination down and expect it to be accepted?

[infotimbo]

don't know how exactly it works either, but 66-1 offered sounds about correct for this parlay.

22-1 for the France/Argentina Final x around 50% Chance for Argentina to win that, and a bit on top for Messi

[Optional]

don't know how exactly it works either, but 66-1 offered sounds about correct for this parlay.

22-1 for the France/Argentina Final x around 50% Chance for Argentina to win that, and a bit on top for Messi

Agree that Coral offered him fair odds for the correlated parlay. More than fair really.

But did they actually book it at 1495/1 is my main question. That ticket does not say that in my mind.


I'd kind of like to know what the Coral system said he was owed at the time he first presented the ticket.

[d2bets]

Agree that Coral offered him fair odds for the correlated parlay. More than fair really.

But did they actually book it at 1495/1 is my main question. That ticket does not say that in my mind.


I'd kind of like to know what the Coral system said he was owed at the time he first presented the ticket.

Do they really make wagers over there scribbled on notepad paper?

[semibluff]

If you fill in a betting slip in a UK betting shop and give it to the cashier with the stake money he/she will ring it up and retain 1 of the 2 copies. The cashier probably won't read it. It's not an automated system. This is NOT booking a bet. If you write 'Heads to win coin flip at £10 +10000' or 'Bills to win Super Bowl 57, Bills to win Super Bowl 57, Bills to win Super Bowl 57 £10 treble' it will be accepted. All bets will be settled as per the betting shop's rules, (which are clearly displayed in the shop), and at the odds that were correct at the time. The coin flip would be settled at -110. The treble would be settled as 3 single bets. By rule a 3-line correlated parley would be settled as 3 separate bets.

Coral have offered the customer an ex gratia payment that is a lot more than they're required to pay under their rules. The customer can accept it or fight it in court.

For transparency I worked in Corals sportsbook head office in the 80s. In those days they had 1000 shops in the UK each clearing about £20K per year. At that time they were owned by Bass the brewers. They were sold for £390M, ($620M), in 1999. They were and are a huge company.

[d2bets]

If you fill in a betting slip in a UK betting shop and give it to the cashier with the stake money he/she will ring it up and retain 1 of the 2 copies. The cashier probably won't read it. It's not an automated system. This is NOT booking a bet. If you write 'Heads to win coin flip at £10 +10000' or 'Bills to win Super Bowl 57, Bills to win Super Bowl 57, Bills to win Super Bowl 57 £10 treble' it will be accepted. All bets will be settled as per the betting shop's rules, (which are clearly displayed in the shop), and at the odds that were correct at the time. The coin flip would be settled at -110. The treble would be settled as 3 single bets. By rule a 3-line correlated parley would be settled as 3 separate bets.

Coral have offered the customer an ex gratia payment that is a lot more than they're required to pay under their rules. The customer can accept it or fight it in court.

For transparency I worked in Corals sportsbook head office in the 80s. In those days they had 1000 shops in the UK each clearing about £20K per year. At that time they were owned by Bass the brewers. They were sold for £390M, ($620M), in 1999. They were and are a huge company.

Wow. Good info. Seems crazy to me. So wishy washy.

[Optional]

Do they really make wagers over there scribbled on notepad paper?

Wow. Good info. Seems crazy to me. So wishy washy.

Surprised there are not more arguments like this one eh!

[slayer14]

If you are gonna place a bet like that you are better placing bet online really so there is no risk of confusion

[slayer14]

His life is ruined now for sure

[rodneytrotter]

A half decent cashier would look at the bet, see that it was nonsense and hand it over to an experienced settler or the shop manager and get them to look at it (and make any corrections) before accepting it. A lazy cashier, or one under pressure taking lots of bets may just ring it up and 'let someone else sort it out'.

[pavyracer]

In Europe you write down your plays on a little piece of paper and then you give to the cashier to put a timestamp on the machine when you pay. There is always a carbon copy kept by the book.

[gooner89]

A half decent cashier would look at the bet, see that it was nonsense and hand it over to an experienced settler or the shop manager and get them to look at it (and make any corrections) before accepting it. A lazy cashier, or one under pressure taking lots of bets may just ring it up and 'let someone else sort it out'.

'Under pressure' is key here. At first glance, it isn't immediately obvious that the selections are correlated, and if the cashier receives a slip like this, especially if the counter is being rushed by other customers looking to get a horse race or greyhound bet on, they will probably put the bet through to ensure all customers get their bets on.
It is the customer's responsibility to ensure their bet is correct and valid. To say Argentina to win and another selection to have Argentina to be in the final, that should be obvious to even the most recreational punter that they are linked. Either the guy has never placed a bet before, or he was trying to pull the wool over their eyes.
In this case, I feel the offer made to him was more than fair given the circumstances, and just for the record I despise the bookies and their behaviour in the UK and almost never side with them, but in this case they are correct.

[cincinnatikid513]

guve him a 50 dollar free play and tell him to piss off

[gooner89]

guve him a 50 dollar free play and tell him to piss off

They offered him around £660 I think it was. Much more than they would be made to pay if it went to the independent adjudicator.

[Cicadasinthe]

Wow. Good info. Seems crazy to me. So wishy washy.

It’s also wrong. On returns like this, Coral cashiers send it to traders over the system then they say accept or don’t.

[slayer14]

Should they just not pay this guy out