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  • TheBettingMan
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 12-13-08
    • 885

    Sportsbook Review Suggestion: List sister sites
    I've noticed in some recent and old threads about players having issues with sportsbooks/casinos holding back, denying, or reducing payouts due to the fact that the player also has an account with a sister site(s). 5 Dimes has a sister site Sportbet, for example.

    I would suggest (if it hasn't already been) that the SBR review of each sportbook also list the sister site (if any) for the player's information. The 5 Dimes review doesn't mention the Sportbet site.

    What are the main concerns the sportsbooks have about a player having an account at a sister site?
  • Krashman
    SBR MVP
    • 07-24-09
    • 3710

    #2
    SBR used to provide this info. They removed it.
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    • ace7550
      SBR MVP
      • 05-08-15
      • 3729

      #3
      Here are the sister sites I know of:

      1. sportsbetting.ag and betonline
      2. 5D and sportbet
      3. bookmaker, galaxy and justbet
      4. skybook, betmania and betphoenix
      5. jazzsports and looselines
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      • TheBettingMan
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 12-13-08
        • 885

        #4
        Originally posted by Krashman
        SBR used to provide this info. They removed it.
        Really? Why would they do that? This makes SBR Sportsbook reviews incomplete and increases risk to the player of having payout issues.


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        • TheBettingMan
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 12-13-08
          • 885

          #5
          Originally posted by ace7550
          Here are the sister sites I know of:

          1. sportsbetting.ag and betonline
          2. 5D and sportbet
          3. bookmaker, galaxy and justbet
          4. skybook, betmania and betphoenix
          5. jazzsports and looselines
          Thanks, Ace!

          5 Dimes, in addition to Sportbet, they also operate ChineseBookie, VietBet, and BetAnySports sportbooks.

          The Jazz Sportsbook Group consists of Jazz Sports, JazzBet, LooseLines, ABC Islands, and Bet Islands.
          Last edited by TheBettingMan; 09-05-20, 10:51 AM.
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          • lonnie55
            SBR MVP
            • 04-08-16
            • 2689

            #6
            Originally posted by TheBettingMan
            Really? Why would they do that?
            Books don't want the players to know that.
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            • jedihyoju
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 04-24-20
              • 503

              #7
              isnt Heritage.eu and wagerweb.eu sister site?

              platform, odds and live bettings are exact same
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              • icon
                SBR MVP
                • 01-09-18
                • 3384

                #8
                Originally posted by TheBettingMan
                Thanks, Ace!

                5 Dimes, in addition to Sportbet, they also operate ChineseBookie, VietBet, and BetAnySports sportbooks.

                The Jazz Sportsbook Group consists of Jazz Sports, JazzBet, LooseLines, ABC Islands, and Bet Islands.
                no.
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                • TheBettingMan
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 12-13-08
                  • 885

                  #9
                  Originally posted by icon
                  no.
                  I took it from this news report:

                  "BetIslands added to SBR sportsbook ratings guide

                  BetIslands.com has been added to the SBR sportsbook ratings guide at C-. BetIslands is managed by Jon Kreta, who founded WagerChief (SBR rating B-) in December of 2008. WagerChief was acquired by BetPhoenix (SBR rating B-) in July of 2009. In January of 2011, Jon officially left WagerChief to take over the BetIslands brand.

                  BetIslands is a turnkey on the DPT Sports Group platform, which also powers Jazz Sports (SBR rating C-), ABC Islands (SBR rating C-), and LooseLines (SBR rating C-).

                  DPT provides BetIslands with hosting, wagering and IT support. BetIslands performs its own processing, and does not accept players outside of the US and Canada."
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                  • TheBettingMan
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 12-13-08
                    • 885

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jedihyoju
                    isnt Heritage.eu and wagerweb.eu sister site?

                    platform, odds and live bettings are exact same
                    From another website:

                    "Several years ago WagerWeb moved into the building owned by Heritage Sports. This partnership has worked out great for both the sportsbook and its' customers. WagerWeb has a spot on the first floor for their operation, including several top VIP clerks, while the overflow call center is operated by Heritage."


                    It sounds like neither Heritage or WagerWeb operate the other but merely share overhead expenses. Whether having and playing in both sportsbooks will justify denying a payout, I don't know.
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                    • TheBettingMan
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 12-13-08
                      • 885

                      #11
                      Originally posted by lonnie55
                      Books don't want the players to know that.
                      Really? That is puzzling to me. What is the logic behind that?

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                      • lonnie55
                        SBR MVP
                        • 04-08-16
                        • 2689

                        #12
                        Originally posted by TheBettingMan
                        Really? That is puzzling to me. What is the logic behind that?
                        Why do you even ask when you already know?
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                        • Optional
                          Administrator
                          • 06-10-10
                          • 60457

                          #13
                          Originally posted by TheBettingMan

                          Really? That is puzzling to me. What is the logic behind that?
                          I believe it was due to the difficulties in keeping it accurate at a time many books changed platforms as well as some offshores not wanting their exact legal affiliations documented.
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                          • TheBettingMan
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 12-13-08
                            • 885

                            #14
                            Originally posted by lonnie55
                            Why do you even ask when you already know?
                            Whaaat??? How do you know what I know or don't know? I see an obvious information gap in the SBR sportsbook reviews that can cause player payout issues and I wonder why is that gap there? Especially if SBR provided it before as indicated by a prior poster. I certainly don't want a payout denied due to me playing at an affiliated sportsbook that I didn't know was affiliated.

                            Did SBR stopped providing this information because the sportsbooks wanted to have this payout-denial option available to them so therefore keep the player ignorant of it? And SBR went along with it? That is pretty mess up if that is the case!
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                            • DontTailMe
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-24-19
                              • 2897

                              #15
                              Originally posted by TheBettingMan
                              Thanks, Ace!

                              5 Dimes, in addition to Sportbet, they also operate ChineseBookie, VietBet, and BetAnySports sportbooks.

                              The Jazz Sportsbook Group consists of Jazz Sports, JazzBet, LooseLines, ABC Islands, and Bet Islands.
                              Do these even exist?
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                              • ace7550
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-08-15
                                • 3729

                                #16
                                Originally posted by jedihyoju
                                isnt Heritage.eu and wagerweb.eu sister site?

                                platform, odds and live bettings are exact same
                                I thought they were but wasn't sure so I didn't list them.
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                                • lonnie55
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 04-08-16
                                  • 2689

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by TheBettingMan
                                  Whaaat???
                                  I thought your post was meant ironically because of the meme.

                                  One reason books don't like that information to be disclosed is that they don't want to suffer double harm by sharps they already limited at one place.
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                                  • Ksherm
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 07-13-10
                                    • 1059

                                    #18
                                    Add Betodds to the jazz list
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                                    • DontTailMe
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-24-19
                                      • 2897

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Ksherm
                                      Add Betodds to the jazz list
                                      While I'm pretty sure LooseLines, Jazz, and ABC are all connected, I believe BetOdds is just using their platform. I have seen a lot of evidence that it's a much smaller operation. For example, every time I call in for support, I get the same guy and it sounds like I interrupted him cooking dinner or something.
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                                      • InsiderHer
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 12-18-12
                                        • 330

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by DontTailMe
                                        While I'm pretty sure LooseLines, Jazz, and ABC are all connected, I believe BetOdds is just using their platform. I have seen a lot of evidence that it's a much smaller operation. For example, every time I call in for support, I get the same guy and it sounds like I interrupted him cooking dinner or something.
                                        And, lets not forget Optional hates them!
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                                        • Optional
                                          Administrator
                                          • 06-10-10
                                          • 60457

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by InsiderHer

                                          And, lets not forget Optional hates them!
                                          What on earth.

                                          I hate Jazz you think?

                                          You're mistaken if so.
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                                          • InsiderHer
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 12-18-12
                                            • 330

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Optional
                                            What on earth.

                                            I hate Jazz you think?

                                            You're mistaken if so.
                                            I guess you didn't read the entire post sir. No one hates Jazz, they are and have always been a solid out
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                                            • solring
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 11-04-09
                                              • 170

                                              #23
                                              Add lowvig.ag to the BetOnline and Sportsbetting.ag family...
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                                              • pologq
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 10-07-12
                                                • 19899

                                                #24
                                                and add bet105 to heritage
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                                                • Mtipster
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 12-28-09
                                                  • 21

                                                  #25
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