1. 09-04-20 12:27 PM #1
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    Sportsbook Review Suggestion: List sister sites

    I've noticed in some recent and old threads about players having issues with sportsbooks/casinos holding back, denying, or reducing payouts due to the fact that the player also has an account with a sister site(s). 5 Dimes has a sister site Sportbet, for example.

    I would suggest (if it hasn't already been) that the SBR review of each sportbook also list the sister site (if any) for the player's information. The 5 Dimes review doesn't mention the Sportbet site.

    What are the main concerns the sportsbooks have about a player having an account at a sister site?
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  2. 09-04-20 03:21 PM #2
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    SBR used to provide this info. They removed it.
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  3. 09-04-20 04:23 PM #3
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    Here are the sister sites I know of:

    1. sportsbetting.ag and betonline
    2. 5D and sportbet
    3. bookmaker, galaxy and justbet
    4. skybook, betmania and betphoenix
    5. jazzsports and looselines
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  4. 09-04-20 09:36 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krashman View Post
    SBR used to provide this info. They removed it.
    Really? Why would they do that? This makes SBR Sportsbook reviews incomplete and increases risk to the player of having payout issues.


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  5. 09-05-20 10:33 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by ace7550 View Post
    Here are the sister sites I know of:

    1. sportsbetting.ag and betonline
    2. 5D and sportbet
    3. bookmaker, galaxy and justbet
    4. skybook, betmania and betphoenix
    5. jazzsports and looselines
    Thanks, Ace!

    5 Dimes, in addition to Sportbet, they also operate ChineseBookie, VietBet, and BetAnySports sportbooks.

    The Jazz Sportsbook Group consists of Jazz Sports, JazzBet, LooseLines, ABC Islands, and Bet Islands.
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  6. 09-05-20 11:36 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBettingMan View Post
    Really? Why would they do that?
    Books don't want the players to know that.
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  7. 09-05-20 12:01 PM #7
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    isnt Heritage.eu and wagerweb.eu sister site?

    platform, odds and live bettings are exact same
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  8. 09-05-20 12:47 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBettingMan View Post
    Thanks, Ace!

    5 Dimes, in addition to Sportbet, they also operate ChineseBookie, VietBet, and BetAnySports sportbooks.

    The Jazz Sportsbook Group consists of Jazz Sports, JazzBet, LooseLines, ABC Islands, and Bet Islands.
    no.
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  9. 09-05-20 01:38 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by icon View Post
    no.
    I took it from this news report:

    "BetIslands added to SBR sportsbook ratings guide

    BetIslands.com has been added to the SBR sportsbook ratings guide at C-. BetIslands is managed by Jon Kreta, who founded WagerChief (SBR rating B-) in December of 2008. WagerChief was acquired by BetPhoenix (SBR rating B-) in July of 2009. In January of 2011, Jon officially left WagerChief to take over the BetIslands brand.

    BetIslands is a turnkey on the DPT Sports Group platform, which also powers Jazz Sports (SBR rating C-), ABC Islands (SBR rating C-), and LooseLines (SBR rating C-).

    DPT provides BetIslands with hosting, wagering and IT support. BetIslands performs its own processing, and does not accept players outside of the US and Canada."
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  10. 09-05-20 01:46 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by jedihyoju View Post
    isnt Heritage.eu and wagerweb.eu sister site?

    platform, odds and live bettings are exact same
    From another website:

    "Several years ago WagerWeb moved into the building owned by Heritage Sports. This partnership has worked out great for both the sportsbook and its' customers. WagerWeb has a spot on the first floor for their operation, including several top VIP clerks, while the overflow call center is operated by Heritage."


    It sounds like neither Heritage or WagerWeb operate the other but merely share overhead expenses. Whether having and playing in both sportsbooks will justify denying a payout, I don't know.
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  11. 09-05-20 01:52 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by lonnie55 View Post
    Books don't want the players to know that.
    Really? That is puzzling to me. What is the logic behind that?

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  12. 09-05-20 02:02 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBettingMan View Post
    Really? That is puzzling to me. What is the logic behind that?
    Why do you even ask when you already know?
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  13. 09-05-20 02:10 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBettingMan View Post

    Really? That is puzzling to me. What is the logic behind that?
    I believe it was due to the difficulties in keeping it accurate at a time many books changed platforms as well as some offshores not wanting their exact legal affiliations documented.
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  14. 09-05-20 02:34 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by lonnie55 View Post
    Why do you even ask when you already know?
    Whaaat??? How do you know what I know or don't know? I see an obvious information gap in the SBR sportsbook reviews that can cause player payout issues and I wonder why is that gap there? Especially if SBR provided it before as indicated by a prior poster. I certainly don't want a payout denied due to me playing at an affiliated sportsbook that I didn't know was affiliated.

    Did SBR stopped providing this information because the sportsbooks wanted to have this payout-denial option available to them so therefore keep the player ignorant of it? And SBR went along with it? That is pretty mess up if that is the case!
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  15. 09-05-20 10:54 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBettingMan View Post
    Thanks, Ace!

    5 Dimes, in addition to Sportbet, they also operate ChineseBookie, VietBet, and BetAnySports sportbooks.

    The Jazz Sportsbook Group consists of Jazz Sports, JazzBet, LooseLines, ABC Islands, and Bet Islands.
    Do these even exist?
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  16. 09-06-20 01:21 AM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by jedihyoju View Post
    isnt Heritage.eu and wagerweb.eu sister site?

    platform, odds and live bettings are exact same
    I thought they were but wasn't sure so I didn't list them.
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  17. 09-06-20 07:12 AM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBettingMan View Post
    Whaaat???
    I thought your post was meant ironically because of the meme.

    One reason books don't like that information to be disclosed is that they don't want to suffer double harm by sharps they already limited at one place.
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  18. 09-06-20 09:52 AM #18
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    Add Betodds to the jazz list
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  19. 09-06-20 02:37 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksherm View Post
    Add Betodds to the jazz list
    While I'm pretty sure LooseLines, Jazz, and ABC are all connected, I believe BetOdds is just using their platform. I have seen a lot of evidence that it's a much smaller operation. For example, every time I call in for support, I get the same guy and it sounds like I interrupted him cooking dinner or something.
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  20. 09-07-20 09:05 AM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    While I'm pretty sure LooseLines, Jazz, and ABC are all connected, I believe BetOdds is just using their platform. I have seen a lot of evidence that it's a much smaller operation. For example, every time I call in for support, I get the same guy and it sounds like I interrupted him cooking dinner or something.
    And, lets not forget Optional hates them!
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  21. 09-07-20 09:11 AM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsiderHer View Post

    And, lets not forget Optional hates them!
    What on earth.

    I hate Jazz you think?

    You're mistaken if so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    What on earth.

    I hate Jazz you think?

    You're mistaken if so.
    I guess you didn't read the entire post sir. No one hates Jazz, they are and have always been a solid out
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  23. 09-09-20 12:08 AM #23
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    Add lowvig.ag to the BetOnline and Sportsbetting.ag family...
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    and add bet105 to heritage
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