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  • Rabiddog33
    SBR Sharp
    • 04-12-18
    • 264

    #1
    Asianconnect88
    Whats the best way for a U.S. resident to use them?
  • SBR Drew
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-08-18
    • 7351

    #2
    Rabiddog33 why chance it with a book that is not even in our Rating Guide? We recommend you search this list for our top books.

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    • Craig22
      SBR Sharp
      • 01-14-16
      • 369

      #3
      Originally posted by SBR Drew
      Rabiddog33 why chance it with a book that is not even in our Rating Guide? We recommend you search this list for our top books.

      Because U.S. books have barely any markets attached to them and horrible odds for non- U.S. sports with tiny limits.
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      • Rabiddog33
        SBR Sharp
        • 04-12-18
        • 264

        #4
        Originally posted by SBR Drew
        Rabiddog33 why chance it with a book that is not even in our Rating Guide? We recommend you search this list for our top book
        I've used them all I want excess to Pinnacle and Matchbook, just like the good old days. I just want to know the best process of using Asianconnect.
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        • bookie
          SBR MVP
          • 08-10-05
          • 2112

          #5
          Get a VPN. Get Bitcoin. Sign up with AC88 for Bitcoin only account--I was not be asked for physical address. Be sure to use the VPN to access the accounts they set up for you. For Pinnacle you can set your location to Canada, for Matchbook try Finland. (Or maybe someone can tell me a country that works for both.)

          Hold your breath. U.S.-based bettors have occasionally been asked for info, and at that point you fess up and send them your documents. So far they've been cool with that, as they are more worried about fraud detection than screwing their grey market customers. But...unfortunately there's no best way other than the only way to use them.

          The good news is that Optional reports they have been responsive to SBR's inquiries on customers' behalf.

          Things change. If you go forward I'd appreciate hearing how things went for you.

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          • We reserve the right to suspend and/or terminate and/or conduct any verification checks and/or disclose any information required to regulatory authorities and/or seize your Account, where we have reasonable belief that, you may have or attempted to or have assisted a third party to, engage in any of the Prohibited Activities. Whilst we are undertaking any checks from time to time, we may restrict you from withdrawing funds from your Account and/or prevent access to all or certain parts of websites.
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          • littlekona
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 11-19-15
            • 5241

            #6
            Originally posted by SBR Drew
            Rabiddog33 why chance it with a book that is not even in our Rating Guide? We recommend you search this list for our top books.

            Why chance it??....Come on....AC88 is better then any book on the top ten by a city block....Pay's faster within 10 mins plus has better odds and CS....It is a must have and have if your are serious player esp if you need exchange platform
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            • mrpapageorgio
              SBR MVP
              • 09-07-17
              • 2974

              #7
              Originally posted by SBR Drew
              Rabiddog33 why chance it with a book that is not even in our Rating Guide? We recommend you search this list for our top books.

              Because how else does a U.S. customer get access to Pinnacle which IS in your ratings guide?
              Last edited by mrpapageorgio; 07-28-18, 09:52 PM.
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              • Sobob99
                SBR High Roller
                • 05-08-17
                • 206

                #8
                Guys, I'm a newbie and playing from the US. Can you guys tell me how Asianconnect88 works? Do I need to constantly be running a VPN, or can I log in as normal? Also are payouts in USD or in Euros
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                • littlekona
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-19-15
                  • 5241

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sobob99
                  Guys, I'm a newbie and playing from the US. Can you guys tell me how Asianconnect88 works? Do I need to constantly be running a VPN, or can I log in as normal? Also are payouts in USD or in Euros
                  It is by far the #1 "all inclusive book" must have IMO
                  always use vpn
                  funds are in Euro(in and out through BTC) and very fast under 15 mins most withdrawals...
                  I rate them A+
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                  • Sobob99
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 05-08-17
                    • 206

                    #10
                    So I contact asiaconnect, sign up, verify....and then after that always use a vpn?? Just want to make sure I do this right when I sign up

                    Originally posted by littlekona
                    It is by far the #1 "all inclusive book" must have IMO
                    always use vpn
                    funds are in Euro(in and out through BTC) and very fast under 15 mins most withdrawals...
                    I rate them A+
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388189

                      #11
                      Pinnacle lines not as good as they use to be

                      USA books have many better bets daily unlike years ago
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                      • littlekona
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 11-19-15
                        • 5241

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sobob99
                        So I contact asiaconnect, sign up, verify....and then after that always use a vpn?? Just want to make sure I do this right when I sign up
                        Sign up w btc Account...they won’t verify but use your real name ect..for me having access to the exchanges is most valuable...use vpn when accessing books...u don’t need to when in your personal account or chating them
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                        • Poisec
                          SBR MVP
                          • 07-22-18
                          • 1215

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          Pinnacle lines not as good as they use to be

                          USA books have many better bets daily unlike years ago
                          Pinnacle odds are good, it's just that too many professional bettors now use it, and I guess are using bots to bet on values. I have seen plenty of great values on Pinnacle, but they remain available only 1 or 2 minutes after the line just opened. Unless you have bots, I find it difficult to keep refreshing your page until the market you want to bet on finally opens. I mean I tried it a few years ago but it's very demanding, you quickly get tired of it.
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                          • lonnie55
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-08-16
                            • 2689

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Poisec
                            Pinnacle odds are good, it's just that too many professional bettors now use it, and I guess are using bots to bet on values. (...)Unless you have bots, I find it difficult to keep refreshing your page
                            Mollybet has an integrated order function for selected games so not even necessary to use bots
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                            • craftbrewer
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 08-07-18
                              • 181

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lonnie55
                              Mollybet has an integrated order function for selected games so not even necessary to use bots
                              Could you please explain how it works in Mollybet? For example, I want to make a bet on a certain match, so I make an order in Mollybet and once pinnacle opens a line for this match, my bet is automatically placed in pinnacle? does it work like this? Is it possible to set a range of odds within which the bet should be placed so the bet is not placed if pinnacle has opened the line worse than I expected?
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                              • lonnie55
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-08-16
                                • 2689

                                #16
                                Originally posted by craftbrewer
                                Could you please explain how it works in Mollybet? For example, I want to make a bet on a certain match, so I make an order in Mollybet and once pinnacle opens a line for this match, my bet is automatically placed in pinnacle? does it work like this?
                                Exactly this is how it works. If you only want to place your bets at Pinnacle but not at any other book then you have to deselect all the other books in the general settings.


                                Is it possible to set a range of odds within which the bet should be placed so the bet is not placed if pinnacle has opened the line worse than I expected?
                                You can define the minimum odds of course. The bet will automatically placed at the highest available odds.

                                However, this order function is far from perfect.* As Mollybet imports the matches from Betfair many matches and markets won't become available for pre-orders. And it happened once that my order didn't get matched for some technical reason. That's why I was asking for an order service a while ago: https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...r-service.html
                                Obviously such thing does not exist


                                /* And you don't have a "IF-THEN" function in this tool, so if you're not sure which line the book will open you have to make two orders on two different lines. For example: It's not possible to say IF -1.5 becomes available THEN place a bet with stake 100 at minimum odds 1.80 but IF -1.5 doesn't become available but -1.75 instead THEN place a bet on -1.75 with stake 75 at minimum odds 1.90. So you have to make two orders. One order like this: 100 @-1.5 @1.80+ and another order like this: 75 @-1.75 @1.90+ and if both lines/odds will become available at any point both of your orders will get matched. That's kind of annoying.
                                Last edited by lonnie55; 12-16-18, 11:36 AM.
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                                • littlekona
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-19-15
                                  • 5241

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by lonnie55
                                  Mollybet has an integrated order function for selected games so not even necessary to use bots
                                  lonnie, any way to get Mollybet platform for USA punters?
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                                  • craftbrewer
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 08-07-18
                                    • 181

                                    #18
                                    lonnie55, thank you for the explanation. The only thing I did not understand is relation between betfair and mollybet. Do you mean that the matches that are not available on betfair will not be available for pre-order in Mollybet? If so, I still don't understand why. What does betfair has to do with it if my pre-ordered bets via Mollybet should be placed not in betfair but in pinnacle?
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                                    • lonnie55
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 04-08-16
                                      • 2689

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by littlekona
                                      lonnie, any way to get Mollybet platform for USA punters?
                                      Which agents did you ask so far?

                                      You might try the contact form on https://mollybet.com/ (no idea if they answer)


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                                      • lonnie55
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-08-16
                                        • 2689

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by craftbrewer
                                        lonnie55, thank you for the explanation. The only thing I did not understand is relation between betfair and mollybet. Do you mean that the matches that are not available on betfair will not be available for pre-order in Mollybet?
                                        Yes, exactly.

                                        If so, I still don't understand why.
                                        Neither do I. That's why I sent a request to Mollybet and Bet-IBC a few days ago:






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                                        • lonnie55
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 04-08-16
                                          • 2689

                                          #21
                                          It's still a tool I don't want to miss. I hope AC will implement it into their AsianOdds platform and maybe even improve it one day.
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                                          • Alfie White
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 09-02-17
                                            • 680

                                            #22
                                            lol @ "recommend us to your friends", they really are aggressive in their approach.

                                            As for the Betfair offers, from my understanding, it is not possible for Molly platform to "create" markets on the exchange as the system is only "listening" to the offers provided by bookmakers; as soon as the market appears on Betfair it will be replicated on Molly surely. But if some other bookmaker does offer specific market, you can still ask for future order and system will pick up the odds once the market becomes available. At least it should work like that...
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                                            • lonnie55
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 04-08-16
                                              • 2689

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Alfie White
                                              lol @ "recommend us to your friends", they really are aggressive in their approach.

                                              As for the Betfair offers, from my understanding, it is not possible for Molly platform to "create" markets on the exchange as the system is only "listening" to the offers provided by bookmakers; as soon as the market appears on Betfair it will be replicated on Molly surely. But if some other bookmaker does offer specific market, you can still ask for future order and system will pick up the odds once the market becomes available. At least it should work like that...
                                              I'm no IT expert at all but I guess the easiest way to offer all matches would be reading out the API of bet365 (like any odds comparison site does) and then import the matches to Mollybet.

                                              It's so annoying. Even if betfair offers a match it happens that they don't have AHC on that match, only 1x2 or ML, which means you can only order 1x2/ML bets no AHCs...

                                              How is there no solid order service for betting in the whole f*cking world? Is that even possible? Am I too stupid to find one?
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                                              • Optional
                                                Administrator
                                                • 06-10-10
                                                • 60690

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by lonnie55
                                                How is there no solid order service for betting in the whole f*cking world? Is that even possible? Am I too stupid to find one?
                                                Imagine the useful information available to the operator that would come with this sort of service too.

                                                I could see it becoming a victim of it's own success if it had too many users though. Once too many compete for opening odds in any sort of automated way, the volume would result in no one being able to reliably bet them at close to best odds.
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                                                • lonnie55
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-08-16
                                                  • 2689

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                                  Imagine the useful information available to the operator that would come with this sort of service too.

                                                  I could see it becoming a victim of it's own success if it had too many users though. Once too many compete for opening odds in any sort of automated way, the volume would result in no one being able to reliably bet them at close to best odds.
                                                  Demand can be regulated by the price

                                                  Take 500 per month and you probably won't have more than 50 customers. First come first serve.
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                                                  • Optional
                                                    Administrator
                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                    • 60690

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by lonnie55

                                                    Demand can be regulated by the price

                                                    Take 500 per month and you probably won't have more than 50 customers. First come first serve.
                                                    Take that 500 per month x 1 year and advertize for a programmer to build your own personalized version on freelancer.com?
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                                                    • lonnie55
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 04-08-16
                                                      • 2689

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                                      Take that 500 per month x 1 year and advertize for a programmer to build your own personalized version on freelancer.com?
                                                      It would cost me more than that. And I would need an agent that allows me to use that software.
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                                                      • Optional
                                                        Administrator
                                                        • 06-10-10
                                                        • 60690

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by lonnie55

                                                        It would cost me more than that. And I would need an agent that allows me to use that software.
                                                        I realized after I posted that, that access would be he biggest hurdle :\
                                                        .
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                                                        • LAbra2k
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 03-12-19
                                                          • 144

                                                          #29
                                                          looks like the login is not possible for me...site is down hope they fix it
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                                                          • BOWLSZN
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 12-22-17
                                                            • 196

                                                            #30
                                                            Can somone help me out on if fairlay Anoymous acounnt is safe for US residents to use?
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                                                            • littlekona
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 11-19-15
                                                              • 5241

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by BOWLSZN
                                                              Can somone help me out on if fairlay Anoymous acounnt is safe for US residents to use?
                                                              yes except New York....I would sign up though don't use the instant account as it can cause issues if your cookies get deleted ect
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                                                              • BOWLSZN
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 12-22-17
                                                                • 196

                                                                #32
                                                                dam i made an istant acc and im using it now im based in NJ but i like to mess around with btc and some offshore books mostly use jerz books.
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                                                                • BOWLSZN
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 12-22-17
                                                                  • 196

                                                                  #33
                                                                  and how come new york residents are banned?
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                                                                  • Roscoe_Word
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-28-12
                                                                    • 3999

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I tried to sign up. I ended up at AsianOdds (same as AC88?). I got a 2 day trial. I changed the settings to Pinnacle, but all I see is a board with decimal odds. I don't know how to convert decimal odds to a spread. In the NBA Denver is 2.441. I can convert that to a money line, but not to a spread.

                                                                    I thought I was gonna see the Pinnacle board with American odds, but that's not the case. Did I do something wrong?

                                                                    I used a Canada VPN to sign in the second time, but didn't see the Pinnacle board.

                                                                    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                                    I figured it out. Thanks to OP and thread viewers.
                                                                    Last edited by Roscoe_Word; 11-30-19, 07:14 PM. Reason: Figured it out
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