Matchbook vs. Bookmaker Soccer Rules

[nymfan99]

I am trying to understand if matchbook's rules for soccer are different/same as Bookmaker.
The way they classify extra time/stoppage isn't clear to me.
Also Bookmaker has a rule on Asian spreads that bets are refunded based on a draw. Not clear if I bet -1.5/2 for example, and the events in a draw if it will be refunded at bookmaker but not at matchbook?
I am only looking to wager Asian spreads and totals. At a high level I want to make sure rules are the same for soccer. Thanks

Bookmaker -
Soccer Spread Markets

We offer Asian Spread Handicaps for:

• Full Game (Bet counts for the 90 minutes of regulation plus injury time ONLY).
• 1st Half (Bet counts for the first 45 minutes of regulation plus injury time ONLY).
• 1st Extra Time (Bet counts for the first 15 minutes of Extra Time ONLY).
• Extra Time (Bet counts for the 30 minutes of Extra Time plus injury time ONLY).

Each Asian handicap line will be graded according to the events occurred within the time frame that the regulation indicates.
Below a detailed explanation of all possible scenarios and outcomes.
Asian Handicap Line PK (also known as “pick’em” line)
If either team wins by any margin, the winning team is to be settled as the winning selection. In the event of a draw all bets are cancelled and stakes are refunded.

Matchbook -

Unless otherwise specified, wagers are for 90 minutes of play, including stoppage/injury time but not including added time for "golden goals," sudden death, or penalty shootouts.Extra Time markets may be offered. These will be offered at the discretion of Matchbook and will be clearly labelled as Extra Time or ET markets.

[Alfie White]

Injury time (couple of minutes after 90' or 45') is always considered to be part of the "normal play" and goals in that period are always counted towards final result for settlement purposes.

You made a small confusion by mentioning -1.75 and draw as the final result. Can you please shed more light on that, what you exactly had in mind?

[nymfan99]

Bookmaker has a clause based on the Asian handicap line - If either team wins by any margin, the winning team is to be settled as the winning selection. In the event of a draw all bets are cancelled and stakes are refunded,

I don't see matchbook having this, so if I bet -1.5/2 and the event ends in a draw would I be refunded wager on bookmaker and on matchbook would be graded as loss?

Also matchbook, about extra time includes language on "golden goals," sudden death, or penalty shootouts
SO it seems that matchbook excludes goals scored in sudden death, penality shots, while I do not see this language for bookmaker.

[Alfie White]

I really don't know what you are hinting here, sorry.

If you place -1.75 bet, 3:1 is giving you half-win (if you bet on home team). They can't ignore the handicap if the game finishes by 3:3 draw - you would lose anyway as your bet is losing one.

Can you give example of the goals etc, as I really am trying to understand, but I am failing

All of the football betting is accounted for during 90 minutes (+ injury time) and ignores the following ET/Penalty shootouts, that is normal as that is not considered "regular play" (like it is in NBA, for example).

[nymfan99]

I really don't know what you are hinting here, sorry.

If you place -1.75 bet, 3:1 is giving you half-win (if you bet on home team). They can't ignore the handicap if the game finishes by 3:3 draw - you would lose anyway as your bet is losing one.

Can you give example of the goals etc, as I really am trying to understand, but I am failing

All of the football betting is accounted for during 90 minutes (+ injury time) and ignores the following ET/Penalty shootouts, that is normal as that is not considered "regular play" (like it is in NBA, for example).

That's not true though, all US sports for example, if the game goes into over time, using your NBA as example, the spread, ml, totals will be settled based on the score at the end of the OT period.

Bookmaker also, includes 'injury time ONLY' while matchbook includes STOPAGE and injury, but not shootouts, sudden death or golden goals.

I am not sure if these are different rules, at 1st glance it looks different

[lonnie55]

Draw in the context of Asian Handicaps means Void/Cashback, e.g. you bet home team +1 and the result is 1-0

You won't get your money back at bookmaker when you bet -1.75 and the match ends in a draw

Injury Time and Stoppage Time is the same BTW


AHC on soccer matches NEVER include extra time

[nymfan99]

Draw in the context of Asian Handicaps means Void/Cashback, e.g. you bet home team +1 and the result is 1-0

You won't get your money back at bookmaker when you bet -1.75 and the match ends in a draw

Injury Time and Stoppage Time is the same BTW


AHC on soccer matches NEVER include extra time

so you are saying matchbook and bookmaker rules are the same for Asian handicap and totals?

[nymfan99]

Draw in the context of Asian Handicaps means Void/Cashback, e.g. you bet home team +1 and the result is 1-0

You won't get your money back at bookmaker when you bet -1.75 and the match ends in a draw

Injury Time and Stoppage Time is the same BTW


AHC on soccer matches NEVER include extra time

Whats AHC?

[Optional]

so you are saying matchbook and bookmaker rules are the same for Asian handicap and totals?

In terms of how they would grade an Asian Handicap -1.5,-2 bet, yes they grade the same way and both only include regualr time for that type of bet.

Whats AHC?

Asian Handicap

[Optional]

A Golden Goal is when they play extra time and the first team to score wins.

Usually it is just a fixed period of extra time and both teams could potentially score.

Extra time is only a factor in knockout tournaments where a non-draw result is needed.

[nymfan99]

yeah so world cup matchbook seems to exclude sudden death, shoot outs, etc while Bookmaker I am not sure. So at some point in the tourney I am assuming this is possible. Also for over/unders does this only include regular time + stoppage or extra time if needed?

[Optional]

yeah so world cup matchbook seems to exclude sudden death, shoot outs, etc while Bookmaker I am not sure. So at some point in the tourney I am assuming this is possible. Also for over/unders does this only include regular time + stoppage or extra time if needed?

Totals are only ever regualr time AFAIK for soccer.

For the matches after group stages there will be extra time if needed. Both books will probably post specific rules for markets that will include the possibility of extra time.

[lonnie55]

so you are saying matchbook and bookmaker rules are the same for Asian handicap and totals?

Yes.

Whats AHC?

Like Optional already explained: Asian Handicap

A Golden Goal is when they play extra time and the first team to score wins.
Usually it is just a fixed period of extra time and both teams could potentially score.
Extra time is only a factor in knockout tournaments where a non-draw result is needed.

Yes, Golden Goal or Silver Goal Rule does not exist anymore in soccer. Extra time always 2x15 minutes plus optional injury time, no sudden death possible.

Totals are only ever regualr time AFAIK for soccer.

Yes, totals are regular time. Regular time is 90 minutes + injury time. AHC or totals in soccer never include extra time. It's only included in 'to qualify' bets.