So What Are The Clones Of Betfair?

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388189

    #1
    So What Are The Clones Of Betfair?
    I mean not only prices but using same money in the pools

    9wickwets close?
  • littlekona
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-19-15
    • 5242

    #2
    Originally posted by jjgold
    I mean not only prices but using same money in the pools

    9wickwets close?
    I have been on it for bit...It does have markets that are exact and same liquidity as betfair like horse...But it does not have a few tracks that betfair has which is strange...On the sports side same thing has lots of money line markets but spreads and game totals missing many times including the superbowl no full game o/u or pt spread(though they did have quarter and half lines for those...so weird) Live product is also lacking...Overall I like it would rate it a B- as I use it for horses mostly and for that is is good(grading races is lightning fast!)...A good book to have in your rotation if you need a betfair type for usa horses esp but def not a book you can use exclusive. for sports Fairlay and Matchbook blow it away as exchanges right now but With a little tweaking it would rate right with them IMO..
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    • Alfa1234
      SBR MVP
      • 12-19-15
      • 2722

      #3
      Betkeen is an exact clone, it has all markets and the same liquidity.
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      • littlekona
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 11-19-15
        • 5242

        #4
        Originally posted by Alfa1234
        Betkeen is an exact clone, it has all markets and the same liquidity.

        through agent? or is it stand alone how do you sign up? any country restrictions?
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388189

          #5
          How do you get account Betkeen?
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          • aliceinchains
            SBR High Roller
            • 01-07-18
            • 112

            #6
            Yes, i'd really like to know about betkeen also.
            When your country is restricted from betfair, life is hard.
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            • littlekona
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 11-19-15
              • 5242

              #7
              Originally posted by littlekona
              I have been on it for bit...It does have markets that are exact and same liquidity as betfair like horse...But it does not have a few tracks that betfair has which is strange...On the sports side same thing has lots of money line markets but spreads and game totals missing many times including the superbowl no full game o/u or pt spread(though they did have quarter and half lines for those...so weird) Live product is also lacking...Overall I like it would rate it a B- as I use it for horses mostly and for that is is good(grading races is lightning fast!)...A good book to have in your rotation if you need a betfair type for usa horses esp but def not a book you can use exclusive. for sports Fairlay and Matchbook blow it away as exchanges right now but With a little tweaking it would rate right with them IMO..
              so in between horse race now which is A+++ I am looking for NBA tonight and NONE are offered even though the head picture is stephen curry and they have the NBA allstar game listed (only moneyline though)....So Strange!
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              • Optional
                Administrator
                • 06-10-10
                • 60929

                #8
                Originally posted by jjgold
                I mean not only prices but using same money in the pools

                9wickwets close?
                Manager from AC told me they know of more than 20 licensed betfair clone sites using their white label program.

                It's too easy to get setup and people need to be careful.

                He says they chose 9wickets because they know enough about the operator to trust they will get paid.
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                • littlekona
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-19-15
                  • 5242

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Optional
                  Manager from AC told me they know of more than 20 licensed betfair clone sites using their white label program.

                  It's too easy to get setup and people need to be careful.

                  He says they chose 9wickets because they know enough about the operator to trust they will get paid.

                  AC is class act...I’m really impressed by there CS. I really feel like they want my business and they are so nice...9wickets site says it’s powered by betfair...just wish it was a full clone instead of partial
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                  • Foxx
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 05-25-11
                    • 5825

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Optional
                    Manager from AC told me they know of more than 20 licensed betfair clone sites using their white label program.It's too easy to get setup and people need to be careful.He says they chose 9wickets because they know enough about the operator to trust they will get paid.
                    Please expand Opti. Licensed as in licensed by Betfair? Does the money with these clones flow through to Betfair? Or are they just using the odds available on the real BF exchange and booking it? Thanks.
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                    • Optional
                      Administrator
                      • 06-10-10
                      • 60929

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Foxx

                      Please expand Opti. Licensed as in licensed by Betfair? Does the money with these clones flow through to Betfair? Or are they just using the odds available on the real BF exchange and booking it? Thanks.
                      It's integrated into the betfair pools just like betting on the Betfair website.

                      Here is how it works: https://developer.betfair.com/vendor-program/web-apps/
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                      • littlekona
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 11-19-15
                        • 5242

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Optional
                        It's integrated into the betfair pools just like betting on the Betfair website.

                        Here is how it works: https://developer.betfair.com/vendor-program/web-apps/
                        Very interesting how the API work and the scripts that market makers use esp in horse racing as I see the markets move and same prices on multiple exchanges..
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                        • Alfa1234
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-19-15
                          • 2722

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          How do you get account Betkeen?
                          No idea about country restrictions, but easysportbet.co.uk is the agent. I've been using them and have gotten paid.
                          Last edited by Optional; 02-08-18, 05:53 AM.
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                          • icon
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-09-18
                            • 3404

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Alfa1234
                            No idea about country restrictions, but easysportbet.co.uk is the agent. I've been using them and have gotten paid.
                            I just signed up with them, they look legit.

                            They have a ton of deposit and withdrawal options.

                            Looks good!
                            Last edited by Optional; 02-08-18, 05:53 AM.
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                            • sadekmeister
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 04-25-17
                              • 99

                              #15
                              You can also try 21bet exchange if don't want agent involved. But they aren't available in all countries.
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                              • King_Suckerman
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 04-12-09
                                • 945

                                #16
                                Is there an advantage of using a clone if your country already allows you access to Betfair? For example, do any offer lower commission.
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                                • littlekona
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-19-15
                                  • 5242

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by King_Suckerman
                                  Is there an advantage of using a clone if your country already allows you access to Betfair? For example, do any offer lower commission.
                                  I do not think there are any advantages..9wickets is one I use yet its not a full clone and many sports markets are missing but for horses I am very happy with it...for sports its weak as even spreads on NBA are not available just money lines(so strange!) .... if you want ZERO commissions with similar prices to Betfair Fairlay is a very good option but its BTC exclusive
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                                  • jjgold
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388189

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by sadekmeister
                                    You can also try 21bet exchange if don't want agent involved. But they aren't available in all countries.

                                    I do not know if I would trust that place, it does clone betfair exactly
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                                    • thespeculator
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-09-08
                                      • 2999

                                      #19
                                      21 bet looks pretty good. They have bitcoin deposit option and most importantly accept Canadians. They also have every sport, although i can't say how the odds compare to betfair since betfair can't be accessed from canada.
                                      Interesting they say on the site powered by betfair.
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                                      • thespeculator
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-09-08
                                        • 2999

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                        I do not know if I would trust that place, it does clone betfair exactly
                                        they certainly don't hide that. It is written under there logo powered by betfair
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                                        • aliceinchains
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 01-07-18
                                          • 112

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by littlekona
                                          I do not think there are any advantages..9wickets is one I use yet its not a full clone and many sports markets are missing but for horses I am very happy with it...for sports its weak as even spreads on NBA are not available just money lines(so strange!) .... if you want ZERO commissions with similar prices to Betfair Fairlay is a very good option but its BTC exclusive
                                          where did u open an account from? i talked to bet-ibc about 9wickets and they kinda persuaded me, but i don't have much experience with any kind of brokerage. what u guys think?
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                                          • littlekona
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 11-19-15
                                            • 5242

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by aliceinchains
                                            where did u open an account from? i talked to bet-ibc about 9wickets and they kinda persuaded me, but i don't have much experience with any kind of brokerage. what u guys think?
                                            I do not have experience with bet-ibc BUT I am relatively new to asianconnect and I must say it is a very good experience so far...The CS is outstanding and the ability to move funds from say 9wickets to pinbett in minutes is awesome!
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388189

                                              #23
                                              good stuff men

                                              Thank You
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                                              • aliceinchains
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 01-07-18
                                                • 112

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by littlekona
                                                I do not have experience with bet-ibc BUT I am relatively new to asianconnect and I must say it is a very good experience so far...The CS is outstanding and the ability to move funds from say 9wickets to pinbett in minutes is awesome!
                                                thank u...i think it's time to try now
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                                                • thespeculator
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-09-08
                                                  • 2999

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by aliceinchains
                                                  thank u...i think it's time to try now
                                                  i have used bet-ibc for matchbook and they were very good. They don't make you send any documents , which i think is needed at other brokers.
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                                                  • aliceinchains
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 01-07-18
                                                    • 112

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by thespeculator
                                                    i have used bet-ibc for matchbook and they were very good. They don't make you send any documents , which i think is needed at other brokers.
                                                    wow that's cool! then i'll give them a shot. earlier, they explained 9wickets to me very detailed. so i think they deserve an account from me lol
                                                    thank u btw
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                                                    • Poisec
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 07-22-18
                                                      • 1215

                                                      #27
                                                      Any broker providing access to Matchbook these days?
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388189

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Poisec
                                                        Any broker providing access to Matchbook these days?
                                                        BetinAsia
                                                        Sportsmarket
                                                        IBC
                                                        EastBridge

                                                        Although only offered on mollybet software

                                                        All no usa

                                                        IBC and Eastbridge you can fund with bitcoin and have access to exchanges

                                                        BetinAsia and Sportsmarket no
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                                                        • Dancho032
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 04-06-21
                                                          • 8

                                                          #29
                                                          orbitx is such a clone and you can open account from betinasia,its an agent
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