Which sports books do not boot out consistent winners?

Tomato · 10-11-09, 03:34 PM

tblues2005 · 10-11-09, 04:38 PM

Bet Jamaica and The Greek don't from what I have seen. I have a friend that has won on football almost every year and they still let him play there. He doesn't want to go to anywhere else. I cannot blame him.

robmpink · 10-11-09, 04:56 PM

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Stumpage · 10-11-09, 05:03 PM

There are very few in this category. Like has been mentioned, Matchbook, Greek and Pinnacle of course are the only ones that come to mind. There are actually quite a few more that will not boot you, but of they will lower your limits to such a comical degree that it will basically become meaningless to carry on there.

acarmelo1 · 10-11-09, 05:06 PM

Legends wont boot you

shrek82 · 10-11-09, 05:32 PM

Pinnacle , 188bet , Sbobet

RickySteve · 10-11-09, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by acarmelo1

Legends wont boot you

If you're referring to Legendz, then, no, you're quite quite wrong.

DeluxeLiner · 10-11-09, 10:57 PM

matchbook has no stake in your wins/losses since it's a betting exchange not a sports book

mminkovski · 10-11-09, 11:04 PM

pinnacle, betfair (it's an exchange)

bobsimmons · 10-11-09, 11:54 PM

betting exchange vs. a real book

Originally posted by DeluxeLiner

matchbook has no stake in your wins/losses since it's a betting exchange not a sports book

What are the downsides to betting with an exchange vs. a regular book?

Do you get just as good of lines and odds? Anything postive besides not getting booted by using an exchange if you want to make 8% to 12% per month with a disciplined sports investment system?

Bob

Peep · 10-12-09, 12:20 AM

What are the downsides to betting with an exchange vs. a regular book?

Do you get just as good of lines and odds? Anything postive besides not getting booted by using an exchange if you want to make 8% to 12% per month with a disciplined sports investment system?

Bob

Uh, if you do not know the answers to these questions yourself, I doubt very much if you are making 12% with a system.....

acarmelo1 · 10-12-09, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by RickySteve

If you're referring to Legendz, then, no, you're quite quite wrong.

They changed thier name to Legends with an "S"

and why did they boot you??

bobsimmons · 10-12-09, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by Peep

Uh, if you do not know the answers to these questions yourself, I doubt very much if you are making 12% with a system.....

I want to lay the right foundation before I begin to. I could have last year but I always fell for the temptation to get ahead quickly and you know where that led me !

So, I have determined to stick with the system I have studied and with the pick percentage I have and using the right tools I know I can do it.

Now, do you know the answer to my question please?

Thanks, Bob

TomG · 10-12-09, 12:30 PM

Exchange betting is better cause you're winning from an actual person and not a bookie. That makes it more likely your winning takes away from someone's rent money, child support payment, entertainment ability, etc. I suggest when you do win, take a moment to imagine the person on the other end of the bet. Picture how mad/sad they must feel as you

. It makes the win extra savory.

acarmelo1 · 10-12-09, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by TomG

Exchange betting is better cause you're winning from an actual person and not a bookie. That makes it more likely your winning takes away from someone's rent money, child support payment, entertainment ability, etc. I suggest when you do win, take a moment to imagine the person on the other end of the bet. Picture how mad/sad they must feel as you

. It makes the win extra savory.

That is why you should only bet the money you do not really need.

Peep · 10-12-09, 01:08 PM

Funny post Tom G.

So you think you lost because instead of settling for 12% you got greedy Investor person?

Go with an exchange or a sportsbook, it really doesn't matter, wherever you get the best price on your bet. Best price at a place you will get paid at is all you should worry about. IF you get booted, you can worry about that IF/when it happens. It is basically irrelevant as long as you get booted with a check.

curinator · 10-12-09, 01:25 PM

Bob, maybe you should politely tell the professional books mentioned here that you have a 12% monthly compounded winning system and ask them to politely send you a check for half of that monthly else you will decimate their other sharp players.

Seriously though, as peep said, it is foolish to have the mindset of not even bothering to play with any book that will limit/boot you. You will see it is much different when you actually start wagering in terms of how difficult it can be to make a consistent profit at any professional (sharp) book. Taking advantage of any books that post soft/square lines and taking advantage of all their sign-up bonuses is the way to start for any beginner.

DukeJohn · 10-12-09, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by curinator

Seriously though, as peep said, it is foolish to have the mindset of not even bothering to play with any book that will limit/boot you. Taking advantage of any books that post soft/square lines and taking advantage of all their sign-up bonuses is the way to start for any beginner.

Yes, take advantage of sign-up bonuses while you can... Stick with B or better rated books and build your bank roll. Some may limit you, some may even boot you, but you should have relatively smooth transactions for a while... Eventually you will discover what books you enjoy to work with...

Hareeba! · 10-12-09, 04:58 PM

In my experience books don't usually kick you out, they simply make it a waste of your time to bet on severely restricted limits. VIP is the only one which has actually closed my account. I've closed at least 25 others which became a waste of time. Almost all of them UK and other Euro books.
I see Greek got a mention for not kicking you out. Well they certainly impose limits.
Pinnacle I believe is the only one which doesn't.
And of course the exchanges won't

Peep · 10-12-09, 05:08 PM

In my experience books don't usually kick you out, they simply make it a waste of your time to bet on severely restricted limits.

Agreed, most do it that way. I call that a "soft boot" rather than a "hard boot", which is simply being shown the door.

As an aside, I am very happy with Ladbrookes. I like what they are doing, which is actually limiting only what I am winning at and giving me quite good limits on what I am losing at. I think this is good bookmaking, or at least "better" bookmaking.....

trixtrix · 10-12-09, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by acarmelo1

Legends wont boot you

lol lol

Lucas · 10-12-09, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by RickySteve

If you're referring to Legendz, then, no, you're quite quite wrong.

my friend got there limit 1usd before he met rollover requirements

Lucas · 10-12-09, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by Peep

Agreed, most do it that way. I call that a "soft boot" rather than a "hard boot", which is simply being shown the door.

As an aside, I am very happy with Ladbrookes. I like what they are doing, which is actually limiting only what I am winning at and giving me quite good limits on what I am losing at. I think this is good bookmaking, or at least "better" bookmaking.....

do not be worried, thay will limit you soon in every sport

i like what they wrote me on betslip
MAX BET 0.18 USD MIN BET 0.20 USD

Peep · 10-12-09, 10:55 PM

LOL.

You might be right Lucas. I am on a bit of a losing streak there, so they are pleased with me at the moment. They are letting me bet dimes on odd stuff, so we are getting along good right now. Still to paraphrase a quote by Ricky Steve that I liked.... "All these books are only good short term anyways".

The Bishop · 10-12-09, 11:16 PM

Even Pinny will limit you if you consistently beat them in small markets. The guy who mods the SB section of 2+2 and runs MMAJunkie.com got his limits reduced in MMA a few years ago when MMA was less popular and subsequently the market was less efficient. On any of the major sports, no, as far as I'm aware.

pimike · 10-12-09, 11:17 PM

Heritage does not limit you

johncrud · 10-12-09, 11:23 PM

What is the winning profit that we are talking about before they start limiting your wager? 10k? 20k?

For an experienced player, I would like to hear how much you have won before they limit your wager or get booted...

pimike · 10-12-09, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by johncrud

I heard if you win alot with Betjm they will limit your wagering amount

Real fast crude

chemist · 10-12-09, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by Peep

LOL.

You might be right Lucas. I am on a bit of a losing streak there, so they are pleased with me at the moment. They are letting me bet dimes on odd stuff, so we are getting along good right now. Still to paraphrase a quote by Ricky Steve that I liked.... "All these books are only good short term anyways".

Either they're no good long-term or you aren't. The books that are being mentioned in this thread are basically the books that are hard to beat.

johncrud · 10-12-09, 11:37 PM

Find a highroller book like thegreek or betcris.. you might stick around longer before they start imposing this and that to your account..

If you feel like winning alot like thousands per each day, then it would be best to 10+ books and distribute your bets around. Bet like 50 or 100 bucks each on them. Win little by little from each of them so they don't feel financially threaten. IF you win like 200 bucks per month for life, they probably don't give a crap about you.

Peep · 10-13-09, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by pimike

Heritage does not limit you

Gee, they must have forgot that they don't with my account.

They cut me back to a nickel max for everything and went a step further, calling me a "professional player", and saying I wasn't eligable for any contests or any bonuses (ever).

Still, other books have done worst for less, no complaints.

man3645 · 10-13-09, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by TomG

Exchange betting is better cause you're winning from an actual person and not a bookie. That makes it more likely your winning takes away from someone's rent money, child support payment, entertainment ability, etc. I suggest when you do win, take a moment to imagine the person on the other end of the bet. Picture how mad/sad they must feel as you

. It makes the win extra savory.

Don't forget money they will loose to pay for healthcare...

RickySteve · 10-13-09, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by pimike

Heritage does not limit you

This one's even funnier than the Legend_ endorsement.

Clearly you guys have misread the thread title as "Which sports books do not boot consistent losers?"

Hareeba! · 10-14-09, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by johncrud

What is the winning profit that we are talking about before they start limiting your wager? 10k? 20k?

For an experienced player, I would like to hear how much you have won before they limit your wager or get booted...

With the UK and other Euro books you don't have to have won at all before being limited to peanuts. They seem to take a dislike to players who even on their first couple of bets get set at top odds. Seems they automatically think you are arbing or something and even if the bets lose you get the cold shoulder from them.