BetFirstClass reserves right to cancel winning parlays and keep losers?

**SBR Lou** · 10-06-09, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by katstale

I was basing my assumption on the above, HH. Player said it was all good with him, so I assume they took care of him. As for them taking care of any others caught in the same situation..... yea i can't tell anything abt that.

The player considers the matter resolved but the indication as of yesterday afternoon was the parlay had not been paid. I won't comment on anything further regarding the player, but he's posted in this thread and can share whatever he likes of course.

The bet was booked, it should be paid, it's likely there are more players that played combinations which were voided.

We will see what BFC does from here. They've updated the website with an additional rule, and after speaking with Michael yesterday he stated he would make the change with the software and prevent those specific 30% or more correlated parlays from being accepted. I imagine Judge can confirm if this was done yet or not.

**mtneer1212** · 10-06-09, 08:15 PM

They should change their name to BetEconomyCoach, or BetStowaway.

**fiveteamer** · 10-06-09, 08:25 PM

keep up the good fight Chucky.

**BigDaddy** · 10-07-09, 04:22 PM

now it looks like they take forever on larger payouts even though they brag all the time about how fast they pay.

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**fiveteamer** · 10-07-09, 04:25 PM

Why would anybody send these guys $10, I have no idea.

The first time Mr. BETFIRSTCLASS came on here and started insulting posters it was a no mas situation for me.

What a mickey mouse operation. I'd rather better with Sammy and Chet in Plattsburgh.

**Trojan** · 10-07-09, 04:25 PM

Its a shitty book, the juice is ridiculous and the guy running it makes a fool of himself posting on the forums. There is absolutely no reason to play at this book.

**madsiz** · 10-07-09, 05:04 PM

Several weeks back, when Penn st played temple, I had PSU -28 parlay with over, that bet didn't get cancelled, that has a bigger correlation than this one...(it was a $20 bet )

**blackbart** · 10-07-09, 06:57 PM

despite the fear of these correlated parlays and most books not allowing them, i have seen no evidence that they are truly long term winners {+ev}

**flyingillini** · 10-07-09, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by fiveteamer

Why would anybody send these guys $10, I have no idea.

The first time Mr. BETFIRSTCLASS came on here and started insulting posters it was a no mas situation for me.

What a mickey mouse operation. I'd rather better with Sammy and Chet in Plattsburgh.

That was some funny shit when he did that. It blew my mind that the guy that owned the book would come on a public forum and insult and talk shit to us. They expect to be a good book after that? Ha Ha, I wouldn't even think about playing with them. Not to mention, I think that their designer for their site is the same guy who does the gamecities ones.. Ha Ha, you gotta love the plane! Ha Ha Ha

**JoshW** · 10-08-09, 08:30 AM

Historically, if the current ownership of a sportsbook posts in the forums to get business or even shoot the shit, it hasn't been a good sign. Doesn't mean it is a problem in all cases, but their is at least an associative link to eventual slow pays. I would chalk it up to one part wrong personality to run a book, one part not focused on the book itself, and one part, a little too desperate for business.

**katstale** · 10-08-09, 10:46 AM

Don't have a dog in this fight (maybe one at Cascade--sorry a cock), but i LOVED Michael's posts (probably ill advised posts). He came across to me like Cuban with the Mavs. Passionate guy who sometimes needs to be reigned in.

I have chatted with him on the phone--seemed rational for sure.

Let's be real everyone. In the current environment, if a book is paying everyone and has no history of not paying AND is willing to work with SBR to satisfy player complaints--that is a decent book.

There are A- rated books on here who stole and ignored SBR concerns.

I guess I just don't get all the hate thrown at this place. Much worse is/has been going on and it doesn't get near this level of acid tongue.

Judge seems to do a good job repping for Michael on here. Although I have to admit, I miss Michael's routine.

**Peep** · 10-08-09, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by katstale

Don't have a dog in this fight (maybe one at Cascade--sorry a cock), but i LOVED Michael's posts (probably ill advised posts). He came across to me like Cuban with the Mavs. Passionate guy who sometimes needs to be reigned in.

I have chatted with him on the phone--seemed rational for sure.

Let's be real everyone. In the current environment, if a book is paying everyone and has no history of not paying AND is willing to work with SBR to satisfy player complaints--that is a decent book.

There are A- rated books on here who stole and ignored SBR concerns.

I guess I just don't get all the hate thrown at this place. Much worse is/has been going on and it doesn't get near this level of acid tongue.

Judge seems to do a good job repping for Michael on here. Although I have to admit, I miss Michael's routine.

You will not be quite as happy with them when they decide to post your play(s) in an open forum and then accuse you of betting into a bad line. Especially when the line was one that was widely available at the time.

This is how they treated me.

**katstale** · 10-08-09, 12:14 PM

Pip, I remember that and yes you got a raw deal with that. I don't want to appear to be defending any of their miscues. They should have dealt with you off forum and resolved that. Not abt you, but I really have a problem when people (books or players) rush to the forum to complain abt something that hasn't had time to be looked at behind the scenes.

**trixtrix** · 10-08-09, 01:55 PM

kill this thread

i will paypal op (i doubt anyone playing at bfc will wager more than that) 50$ if this thread is deleted.