$179,564 BetIslands Deposits from Nov 7 to Dec 18

**sneak-a-peak** · 12-24-12, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by BettingLeaks

According to Ask T H E Bookie dotcom since November 7 players tracked to SBR made $171,571 in P2P deposits plus paid $7,993 in P2P fees for a total of $179,564 spent posting up to BetIslands during this period. This is the day following the date a thread was made warning of their issue. This site has a full database published that shows every depost with user name, time stamp, ammount, fee etc.

UNBELIEVABLE!!!! 180K and cannot stay afloat? WTF? This was nothing but theft here

**erickvivar** · 12-24-12, 06:48 PM

I just read the main article on that website and it is scary. It clears up a lot of things and brings a lot of sense to what happened. SBR reputation is forever lost, there is no doubt about that. They can continue to push their sponsors but a "watchdog", never, EVER, EVER.

**louis** · 12-24-12, 06:55 PM

This website ************** is a competitor of SBR. They do not have a history of promoting good sportsbooks. SBR deserves a lot of criticism for sure for giving a D sportsbook a B rating. But buying into these conspiracy theories and garbage from those who have a history of promoting scam books is overdoing it.

**sneak-a-peak** · 12-24-12, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by sneak-a-peak

UNBELIEVABLE!!!! 180K and cannot stay afloat? WTF? This was nothing but theft here

Now granted if a book is done they are done but I am sure that 180k did not get paid out to players...... what a disaster- thats a lot of cash for just a few weeks!

**sourtwist** · 12-24-12, 06:55 PM

a few k of that was deposited by me

**LordVodka** · 12-24-12, 06:57 PM

The least SBR could have done was warn people about the arrest of the owner.

**Inkwell77** · 12-24-12, 07:01 PM

After a long day of buying coke and gambling with others peoples money and buying christmas presents (paying off) their Costa Rican scumbag friends the leaders of SBR only had one thing to say.....

"Merry Christmas to all and to all a goodnight!"

-Bill Dozer and SBRJohn

**louis** · 12-24-12, 07:07 PM

I agree. I'm not convinced SBR knew the owner was arrested. I'm not sure the owner was arrested. Not sure what is a rumor and what is not. The fact is there is no way this sportsbook deserved a B rating. SBR needs to base their ratings on more than just payout history. A review of balance sheets and accounting statements needs to be done. But for the most part SBR does a better job promoting quality and good books than the other watchdog sites, so we need not over do it and buy into all the conspiracy theries and garbage the scam sites and their promoters are now trying to get us to believe.

**JasonDC** · 12-24-12, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by Inkwell77

After a long day of buying coke and gambling with others peoples money and buying christmas presents (paying off) their Costa Rican scumbag friends the leaders of SBR only had one thing to say.....

"Merry Christmas to all and to all a goodnight!"

-Bill Dozer and SBRJohn

Pretty funny..but im hoping the boys can redeem their reputation by finding us a bailout.

**Kaps** · 12-24-12, 07:15 PM

wow ...great find ... SBR completely knew about everything and turned the cheek while the rest of us are stuck out in the cold.
great job SBR hope your proud.

**LordVodka** · 12-24-12, 07:31 PM

Was Betislands in a lose-lose situation at that point?

When the guy backing them financially was arrested, let's say that at that point Jon announced no more deposits due to the state of betisland.....at that point they still would not have had any way to pay the player and people would still have been pissed off.

**Easy-Rider 66** · 12-24-12, 07:36 PM

Just checked out the site. They are hammering SBR. Who knows what the truth is and if they have an ax to grind. This could get interesting.

**fishofewing** · 12-24-12, 07:42 PM

What spreadsheet doesn't show is the people like me who heard about BI from SBR but signed up own their own. I personally did not lose any money(stopped playing their a few months), but if SBR thinks they did nothing wrong, that is the biggest crock of sh** I ever heard. Glad Im just a lurker, this is a serious case of fraud if I ever saw one. Happy Holidays all!

**dark star** · 12-24-12, 08:01 PM

This is horrible...what scum bags SBR are...

**Triumph** · 12-24-12, 08:03 PM

Most players realize how recklessly Jon ran bet islands, the guy gave out free plays as often as he broke wind, plus the free 1/2 point gave sharpies an easy opportunity to bury bet islands, its no wonder the book was upsidedown.

**woodsy5822** · 12-24-12, 08:11 PM

i know you guys might not believe me.. but i did some digging and talked to some people directly involved in this... JON stole money (300 k plus in his first year alone) and a lot of it , he is in hiding... he is hoping this blows over and can show his face again (up to us to not let that happen) .. There hasnt been a backer for awhile.. they backed out a longgggg time ago.. they were never arrested.. Jon lied and cheated them also. so they basicalled told him too p i ss off.. he tried to get a backer to save face... he even went to Betcris.. they laughed in his face.. sslp is 100 % jon, also jon cut a deal with the sharps.. getting a percent of their wins.. the backers told jon to get rid of the sharps he did and then brought them in under different names/accounts..

as far as sbr you wouldnt even believe how filthy their hands are in this. i can promise you 100% SBR is Guilty in thus.Bi has known since august this was going to happen..

Also ryan stayed on til the end casue he was promised a managers job at 7red.. (which only has 20 clients haha). i gave ryan the benefit of the doubt for awhile but he turned out to be a shitbag also...

**woodsy5822** · 12-24-12, 08:12 PM

should say SBR has known since august that BI was in trouble

**woodsy5822** · 12-24-12, 08:28 PM

i should add.. that SBR knew BIs problems .they didnt do anything but in the words of my source.. "they are a necassary evil cause they do protect the players but they can be bought.."

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 12-24-12, 08:55 PM

Interesting that only 1 of the 6 largest total depositers on that list was a sbr referral. Thought it would be more.

**LordVodka** · 12-24-12, 09:08 PM

Who is that Brian guy? Is it the same Brian Laverty that posts here?

**robmpink** · 12-24-12, 09:11 PM

I don't see why the other forum, ATB, would just make up a fake spread sheet.

**robmpink** · 12-24-12, 09:12 PM

Most of this could have been eliminated, but SBR failed to warn people.

**LordVodka** · 12-24-12, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by robmpink

Most of this could have been eliminated, but SBR failed to warn people.

How much did you lose?

**Justin7** · 12-24-12, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by woodsy5822

i know you guys might not believe me.. but i did some digging and talked to some people directly involved in this... JON stole money (300 k plus in his first year alone) and a lot of it , he is in hiding... he is hoping this blows over and can show his face again (up to us to not let that happen) .. There hasnt been a backer for awhile.. they backed out a longgggg time ago.. they were never arrested.. Jon lied and cheated them also. so they basicalled told him too p i ss off.. he tried to get a backer to save face... he even went to Betcris.. they laughed in his face.. sslp is 100 % jon, also jon cut a deal with the sharps.. getting a percent of their wins.. the backers told jon to get rid of the sharps he did and then brought them in under different names/accounts..

as far as sbr you wouldnt even believe how filthy their hands are in this. i can promise you 100% SBR is Guilty in thus.Bi has known since august this was going to happen..

This contradicts what I have heard from many sources.

I have seen no proof (and have evidence to the contrary) on your claims that
1. Jon stole 300k
2. The backer left a long time ago.

Do you have any proof you can share on this?

**robmpink** · 12-24-12, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by LordVodka

How much did you lose?

A few $$$$$

**BranchDavidian** · 12-24-12, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by BettingLeaks

According to Ask T H E Bookie dotcom since November 7 players tracked to SBR made $171,571 in P2P deposits plus paid $7,993 in P2P fees for a total of $179,564 spent posting up to BetIslands during this period. This is the day following the date a thread was made warning of their issue. This site has a full database published that shows every depost with user name, time stamp, ammount, fee etc.

SBR_John is asking for deposit info because they may be considering making it right only for deposits after November 7th? Boy, isn't that just great. I made several deposits, the last one a $3000 cashier's check which was prior to that date. So, even if SBR does something (other than finding a book to offer a bailout), I will be left out in the cold again? When I responded to SBR_Johns thread, I started to get my hopes up. I don't know if I can take any more good news like this.

**JasonDC** · 12-24-12, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by BranchDavidian

SBR_John is asking for deposit info because they may be considering making it right only for deposits after November 7th? Boy, isn't that just great. I made several deposits, the last one a $3000 cashier's check which was prior to that date. So, even if SBR does something (other than finding a book to offer a bailout), I will be left out in the cold again? When I responded to SBR_Johns thread, I started to get my hopes up. I don't know if I can take any more good news like this.

Who said they were considering making it right for people that made deposits only after November 7th?

**bubba** · 12-25-12, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by Justin7

This contradicts what I have heard from many sources.

I have seen no proof (and have evidence to the contrary) on your claims that
1. Jon stole 300k
2. The backer left a long time ago.

Do you have any proof you can share on this?

this all seems to be he said/she said. i dont expect you to share it here justin but do you have any proof for any of the claims you have made on the matter? this tidbits seem to add up as well as anything that i have seen.

**Hankwins** · 12-25-12, 03:12 AM

grade A makes sense. if bovada closed with player funds it'd be yahoo news.

**BranchDavidian** · 12-25-12, 04:18 AM

Originally posted by JasonDC

Who said they were considering making it right for people that made deposits only after November 7th?

This was only speculation at ATB because Daringly (Justin7) says he is trying to find out who made deposits after the thread warning of problems at BI began at SBR on Nov. 6th --- and now Bill's sticky thread here asking about RECENT deposits. Why else would they only want deposit info since November 7th? Why can't we use paragraphs?

**BranchDavidian** · 12-25-12, 04:33 AM

I saw this speculation when I first saw this thread and went to the site cited. To respond to your question with a little more detail, I went back to the site but now cannot find what I read previously. I am not very good at navigating around unfamiliar places, so I am not sure if I just can't now find the same article, or if that site also does a lot of deleting as they do around here or if I just can't find the same thread. But Justin's comments are quoted in the article titled "SBR Players Deposits Sent to the BI Slaughterhouse". And, of course, you can see the sticky thread at the top of the Sportsbook and Industry forum here. The inference seems pretty obvious.

**BranchDavidian** · 12-25-12, 04:41 AM

Has SBR taken away our ability to use paragraphs as a form of censorship? A lot of posters won't try to wade thru a long post without them. So, anyone trying to get an idea across that takes more than two sentences won't reach the masses?

**MBENZ** · 12-25-12, 05:02 AM

The sky is blue and water is wet

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If you want paragraphs,use BTJ effect

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Figured This would work but who fukkin knows.

What a mess,this really blows

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**BranchDavidian** · 12-25-12, 11:39 AM

[QUOTE=MBENZ;17246284]The sky is blue and water is wet

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If you want paragraphs,use BTJ effect

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Figured This would work but who fukkin knows.

What a mess,this really blows

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You can make paragraphs

so I see