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  • primozek
    SBR Rookie
    • 09-11-15
    • 34

    #1
    Montpellier vs Clermont abandoned game
    Made bet on Ligue 1 game Montpellier vs Clermont (8th of October) with Sportsbetting.ag. The game was abandoned and 5 minutes of stoppage time was not played. They graded bet as loss but should be voided.

    Their soccer rules are:

    5. If a game is abandoned or postponed for any reason, all wagers will stand provided the game is played or re-started within 24 hours of the original kickoff time. If the game is not player or re-started within 24 hours then all wagers will be considered void with the exception of 1st half wagers if they have already been settled.

    6. The only exception to the above rule is if the relevant governing body deems an abandoned match to be completed and declares the result to stand. Then we will settle all wagers as normal provided at least 80 minutes has been played.

    Game was not played or restarted within 24 hours, result did not stand, game will be replayed in near future (official statement of discipline committee of Ligue 1).

    I have been on chat couple of times, explain all and sent links to official league site and discipline committee decision. Chat person even agreed with me however wagering department doesn't want to credit stake back to my account. Their reply is without sense:

    The wager was graded correctly, the game was valid based on the time played which was 90 minutes. Unless otherwise stated all Soccer wagers for the period of the game are for regulation time only (90 minutes plus any time added on for stoppages) and do not include periods of extra time (overtime) or penalty shootouts.

    As proof they gave me link to Flashscore site but there is clearly written game was abandoned.

    One more time, stoppage time was not played completely, game was abandoned and result did not stand, game will be replayed.
  • Thefix13
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 05-14-21
    • 664

    #2
    Yeah well it doesnt help when the person writing the rule does not even understand English because if they did that should go your way
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    • Optional
      Administrator
      • 06-10-10
      • 61050

      #3
      If the league declared the result stands despite the game not completing the loss grade would be correct.

      If the result does not count, and you are sure from an official source, PM me your account number and the bet ID and we can pass it on to a manager in there for you.

      Post the proof here first.
      .
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      • TT22
        SBR Sharp
        • 09-02-09
        • 409

        #4
        I had basically a sure winner on this game on another bookmaker and it was (correctly) voided.

        The league didn't count points nor an official result was given from the game.
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        • primozek
          SBR Rookie
          • 09-11-15
          • 34

          #5
          Thank you for your message. Here is link to official statement of Ligue 1 discipline committee:

          https://www.lfp.fr/Articles/Discipline/2023/10/25/commission-de-discipline-les-decisions-du-25-octobre-2023


          Here is also link to Ligue 1 official site for round 8, where can see there is no result for that game:




          I will message you account number and the bet ID. Thank you for your time.

          Originally posted by Optional
          If the league declared the result stands despite the game not completing the loss grade would be correct.

          If the result does not count, and you are sure from an official source, PM me your account number and the bet ID and we can pass it on to a manager in there for you.

          Post the proof here first.
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          • Alfie White
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 09-02-17
            • 680

            #6
            I don't like being harbinger of bad news, but from my experience, they will not void the bet since the industry standard usually is that if game is played XY amount of minutes, all FT bets will stand.

            Good luck.
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            • jedihyoju
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 04-24-20
              • 503

              #7
              seems like recently, there are lots of suspended games in European soccer at the last minute

              due to home crowd revolting especially when they are losing.
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              • cashin81
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 09-10-14
                • 12946

                #8


                Looks like 3-0 confirmed.

                Im not sure you can abandon a soccer match when 90 has been played... even if 12 mins have been signalled.
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                • cashin81
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 09-10-14
                  • 12946

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jedihyoju
                  seems like recently, there are lots of suspended games in European soccer at the last minute

                  due to home crowd revolting especially when they are losing.
                  Lyon manager got attacked on the bus before the game by his own fans...
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                  • cashin81
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 09-10-14
                    • 12946

                    #10
                    Oh my bad your talking bout 8th october
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                    • primozek
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 09-11-15
                      • 34

                      #11
                      I have sent you account number and the bet ID. Did you manage to pass it to a manager? Any news? Thank you for your time.

                      Originally posted by Optional
                      If the league declared the result stands despite the game not completing the loss grade would be correct.

                      If the result does not count, and you are sure from an official source, PM me your account number and the bet ID and we can pass it on to a manager in there for you.

                      Post the proof here first.
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                      • primozek
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 09-11-15
                        • 34

                        #12
                        I have been on chat one more time however they repeat answer: Unless otherwise stated all Soccer wagers for the period of the game are for regulation time only (90 minutes plus any time added on for stoppages) and do not include periods of extra time (overtime) or penalty shootouts. On the other hand they do not obey this rule because stoppage time was not completed and game abandoned.

                        Furthermore they said: (90 minutes plus any time added on for stoppages) - it says plus any time added for stoppage, so if there was no stoppage that does not apply if there is stoppage the rule states it also includes anytime from that stoppage.

                        And again they do not obey this because stoppage time was added 6 minutes but only 1 minute played.

                        Also I asked them how can they have final result for that game (4:2) when official Ligue 1 does not have it because game will be replayed?!?
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                        • primozek
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 09-11-15
                          • 34

                          #13
                          https://www.ligue1.com/match?matchId=71705
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                          • cashin81
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 09-10-14
                            • 12946

                            #14
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                            • cashin81
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 09-10-14
                              • 12946

                              #15
                              Defiantly abandoned and id argue that case and those rules rather than talking about stoppage time 90 mins etc

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                              • primozek
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 09-11-15
                                • 34

                                #16
                                Another bizarre reply from them:

                                Unless otherwise stated all Soccer wagers for the period of the game are for regulation time only (90 minutes plus any time added on for stoppages) and do not include periods of extra time (overtime) or penalty shootouts.

                                The wager will stand on on basis that anything after the 90 minutes anything after will be extra time which is not considered.
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                                • Optional
                                  Administrator
                                  • 06-10-10
                                  • 61050

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by primozek
                                  Another bizarre reply from them:

                                  Unless otherwise stated all Soccer wagers for the period of the game are for regulation time only (90 minutes plus any time added on for stoppages) and do not include periods of extra time (overtime) or penalty shootouts.

                                  The wager will stand on on basis that anything after the 90 minutes anything after will be extra time which is not considered.
                                  Yes, that's just idiotic. Some CS person just making things up.

                                  Trying to get the ear of someone responsible in there for you.
                                  .
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                                  • Optional
                                    Administrator
                                    • 06-10-10
                                    • 61050

                                    #18
                                    If you can post screenshots of the excuses they have been giving you for not grading this correctly I will pass those on too.
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                                    • cashin81
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 09-10-14
                                      • 12946

                                      #19
                                      why in these situations, where there must be loads of losing bets claiming should be void... not just this guy,

                                      But yet nothing gets through? or do they void some and leave others to chase?
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                                      • primozek
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 09-11-15
                                        • 34

                                        #20
                                        Finally fixed today.
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                                        • cashin81
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 09-10-14
                                          • 12946

                                          #21
                                          congrats. I wonder if everyone else gets a refund or just those who had to their work for them.
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