Bovada Comes Clean......etc

PD77 · 12-19-19, 05:34 PM

Welcome back Ant. No idea you could be silenced for trolling, if that’s the case half of the forum should be. There’s a few in particular that I’ve almost fell for but didn’t take the bait. I never read any of your posts and thought he’s trolling. It must have something to do with your join date, I’ve noticed long time members get a longer leash and most of them should not.

ehp6737 · 12-19-19, 05:41 PM

What are you crying about? Seems like the most trivial thing ever.

Move along, nothing to see here

Ant23 · 12-19-19, 07:10 PM

Ephp6737......do you need me to read the post to you? Crying is the wrong adjective to describe the post. If you have a chance Google Webster's Dictionary and look up the word "cry/cried/crying" and you can then get a thesaurus and find another adjective. Should you need it read aloud ask Sir I.

I'm done "crying" for the day.......in the end Bovada was caught telling a lie about "we have no new changes regarding bitcoin deposits Sir, maybe it's because blockchain is very busy" It was a CHANGE....a small CHANGE....but a CHANGE nonetheless.....why LIE about it is and was my only question.

Kleenex anyone

JAKEPEAVY21 · 12-19-19, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by ehp6737

What are you crying about? Seems like the most trivial thing ever.

Move along, nothing to see here

Damn near every one of his posts is crying about something.

Crusherrr · 12-19-19, 07:14 PM

If you sent above priority rate then it still credited in a matter of minutes. Spend the extra 5c and you wont have to wait or complain.

Optional · 12-19-19, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by Ant23

So yesterday I received a message from Bovada saying what I've been screaming for the past 5-6 weeks but nobody wanted to listen. "Bovada wants to clear the air and offer an explanation as to why bitcoin deposits are taking awhile longer than in the past. They said they previously had deposited funds w/o any confirmations(leaving them vulnerable to cons/crooks) but now aren't putting funds into accounts until at least 1 confirmation which can take up to 0-15 minutes."

My question is why did they wait SO LOOOOONG for what was immediately obvious to daily players at there site? They simply denied ANY CHANGES and certainly the newfound issues were related to only couple accounts. LIE....LIE...LIE but my question is if they LIED about something so trivial......what else will they LIE about?

I still play with Bovada but have been less than pleased with the "issues" of late and the lack of new bonus offers....i.e. College Bowl Bonus or Christmas Bonus like other books are offering.

P.s. I have been reading posts here over past couple weeks but Optional "silenced" my account b/c he alleged I was trolling. I WAS NOT but I did have an incident that I disagreed with him on.....Like I said then in that instance.....Don't get in a rock throwing fight with someone who has the ability to stand beside a ROCK QUARRY.......Let that sink in

Merry Christmas 2 All......just in case he silences my account again!!!! For not agreeing with each and everything he posts!!!

Take great care with what you claim. You have no chances left. You did not receive an infraction for "not agreeing with everything". It was for repeated off topic trolling in S&I threads. And you have almost repeated what you were given a time out for again here in this thread.

Feel free to use your PMs to argue your point if you wish but stay on topic in S&I threads.

This reply is the only time I will address this in public with you ever again. Please expect an infraction if you can't stop yourself having another go. Choice is yours alone.

DontTailMe · 12-20-19, 02:19 AM

Originally posted by Ant23

So yesterday I received a message from Bovada saying what I've been screaming for the past 5-6 weeks but nobody wanted to listen. "Bovada wants to clear the air and offer an explanation as to why bitcoin deposits are taking awhile longer than in the past. They said they previously had deposited funds w/o any confirmations(leaving them vulnerable to cons/crooks) but now aren't putting funds into accounts until at least 1 confirmation which can take up to 0-15 minutes."

My question is why did they wait SO LOOOOONG for what was immediately obvious to daily players at there site? They simply denied ANY CHANGES and certainly the newfound issues were related to only couple accounts. LIE....LIE...LIE but my question is if they LIED about something so trivial......what else will they LIE about?

I still play with Bovada but have been less than pleased with the "issues" of late and the lack of new bonus offers....i.e. College Bowl Bonus or Christmas Bonus like other books are offering.

P.s. I have been reading posts here over past couple weeks but Optional "silenced" my account b/c he alleged I was trolling. I WAS NOT but I did have an incident that I disagreed with him on.....Like I said then in that instance.....Don't get in a rock throwing fight with someone who has the ability to stand beside a ROCK QUARRY.......Let that sink in

Merry Christmas 2 All......just in case he silences my account again!!!! For not agreeing with each and everything he posts!!!

I backed you up. This change was obvious to anyone paying attention to their deposits over time.

Instantaneous deposit was really nice, but one confirmation isn't so bad as long as your fee is sufficient.

Ant23 · 12-20-19, 12:37 PM

DontTailMe.....glad somebody here actually can see the TRUTH for what it is.....and not what someone tells you it is! They finally owned up to the changes after weeks of saying it was blockchain, it was the network, it was........u get the picture

Now if they would rollout some of their "random" reload BONUSES like other books have done. 1st CFB Bowl Game is today @ 2:00. Good Luck

Ant23 · 12-20-19, 12:48 PM

Optional....."Take care of what you claim"? Wtf is that about homie? I stated A FACT about one of SBR A+ books. If that bothers you then "silence" my account....again. That would be the final detail in proving that you are biased towards those who line your pockets.
In NC FACTS don't lie......FOLKS do!!
I stated A FACT about a message Bovada sent. It was neither positive nor negative but it was a FACT! I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only player there that got the message when in there own words "came clean about bitcoin deposits"
I made the mistake thinking this site was fair and useful for REAL GAMBLERS who actually gamble. Not for folks who talk about other people gambling. I'm curious as to why you weren't so quick to "silence" Degen1 when he damn near revealed to the forum your REAL IDENTITY? If I had to guess it was because you knew he had a $100k bitcoin transaction dispute and a lil $$$ can buy a ton of information in 2019! Hmmmmmmmmm?

GOOD Luck to those who are placing bets and read this post before Optional pulls the plug again......for no particular reason AGAIN!! By the way why "argue my point" via PM? I prefer that everybody can read the thread....the TRUTH buddy doesn't shy away from the light!!

JAKEPEAVY21 · 12-20-19, 01:00 PM

This habitual whiner posts novels almost as bad as former poster blowjoe/joecool...RIP..

FakeNews916 · 12-20-19, 01:05 PM

Ant I didn't really have a problem with your initial post other than my opinion, not having interacted much with Optional, that he's a pretty fair and reasonable person. He seems to try to help most people with issues...

But now you keep ranting on here. He just told you in a previous response it needs to end here. Let's move on and win some bets.

PD77 · 12-20-19, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by FakeNews916

Ant I didn't really have a problem with your initial post other than my opinion, not having interacted much with Optional, that he's a pretty fair and reasonable person. He seems to try to help most people with issues...

But now you keep ranting on here. He just told you in a previous response it needs to end here. Let's move on and win some bets.

yep, he couldn’t let it go. Cya on the flip side Antman.

winnerloser · 12-20-19, 03:58 PM

i dont caare

themike78 · 12-20-19, 04:04 PM

He does have a point it is nice to get the money credited instantly. Sometimes you can send with a super high fee and it still takes an hour to credit. This is what is horrible with bitcoin and why it will never compete with the big debit card companies which process transactions instantly.

frankieperino2 · 12-20-19, 04:06 PM

can we all just agree Bovada has gotten horrible?

HedgeHog · 12-20-19, 04:37 PM

Not a big fan of Bovada. However, I think they have the right to wait until 1 confirmation (or 2) for BTC deposits. That's what most every other A+ Book does. Except for 5D (6 or more confirmations), which really screws its clients on BTC deposits. Pick your battles, Bovada is actually extremely fair on BTC deposits.

Optional · 12-20-19, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by themike78

He does have a point it is nice to get the money credited instantly. Sometimes you can send with a super high fee and it still takes an hour to credit. This is what is horrible with bitcoin and why it will never compete with the big debit card companies which process transactions instantly.

^^^ this is a big part of why books should be crediting all deposits immediately and no worrying about confirmations until withdraw time.

DontTailMe · 12-20-19, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by Optional

^^^ this is a big part of why books should be crediting all deposits immediately and no worrying about confirmations until withdraw time.

Interesting idea. Bovada does say they had to make this change because they were being taken advantage of. Maybe people were double spending BTC deposits and then chip dumping on poker or some other similar scheme.

littlekona · 12-20-19, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by Optional

^^^ this is a big part of why books should be crediting all deposits immediately and no worrying about confirmations until withdraw time.

but then they are opening themselves up for low fee cancels and being free rolled by player....we saw this at the old direct bet. I cant think of any books even btc exclusive that credit without 1 confirmation...you can send P2P to juan carlos fernadez moyer santiago and never know how long it takes to credit too...1 confirmation is fine and is best for both book and player

Optional · 12-20-19, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by littlekona

but then they are opening themselves up for low fee cancels and being free rolled by player....we saw this at the old direct bet. I cant think of any books even btc exclusive that credit without 1 confirmation...you can send P2P to juan carlos fernadez moyer santiago and never know how long it takes to credit too...1 confirmation is fine and is best for both book and player

Only if the book is silly enough to try and run direct betting, with every bet paid out on grading.

Add an incentive for the player to get it there fast, say an extra 1% if confirmed within 20 mins, or maybe a withdraw fee will be charged if the deposit takes more than 1 hour to be confirmed.

But really, if Heritage and Bookmaker are both able to absorb any costs from the issue, it can't be too costly to do it.

hustledouble · 12-21-19, 10:40 PM

My experience with Bovada is that they limit fast and their customer service will just casually lie about small and insignificant things which makes me think the culture there is not good. They always paid and relatively fast. Not Heritage/Bookmaker fast not 5Dimes slow. I never had a single good or upfront experience dealing with their CSRs their who always seemed to either be making shit up b/c they didn't know what they were talking about, or were just lying out of laziness. But at least they paid. I would not go back unless I had no other options at that level/size.