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  • Stallion1080
    SBR Hustler
    • 03-06-19
    • 66

    #36
    Originally posted by Ant23
    Stallion1080......this sucks b/c I currently have a low 4 figure balance with Bovada & I'm scared to even try to get a payout!! I'm seeing more and more complaints on Bovada recently. I certainly hope they do what's right b/c there are still tons of people who are losing $$$ daily so they shouldn't have a problem PAYING. SBR needs to rethink the A+ Grade for bovada

    Agree 100% brother. Don't be afraid to cash out. Keep the positive energy going for yourself.....They'll do what's right for ya.

    I just love how fast they take!!! Why can't we review all our losses and see if they cheated us? ;-)
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    • Stallion1080
      SBR Hustler
      • 03-06-19
      • 66

      #37
      Originally posted by Valfik
      Bovada does not my money since February. I have a total of $30,300 in Bovada and they are not paying. I had around $17,500 and made a bet on a basketball game and won. Bovada made a fraud claim that I bet after the game had finished which is a complete lie and fraud from them. They are not even paying my $17,500 money that I had prior betting on that basketball game. They are a total scam. They only pay you if the money is small and once it is big they never pay

      Seriously?!?!?! What league were you betting??
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      • Stallion1080
        SBR Hustler
        • 03-06-19
        • 66

        #38
        I bet on some weird shit too. Table tennis, politics, Phillipino hoops, you name it. It's not like I made all that just on MLB live totals....
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        • Stallion1080
          SBR Hustler
          • 03-06-19
          • 66

          #39
          My most recent reply to their email about shutting me off for "predicting the outcome."
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          • Barrakuda
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 02-28-18
            • 786

            #40
            Originally posted by moojoo
            Why do they have software then Barrakuda. Should they review every bet on every account when payout is requested?
            Like I said, not defending them. Just saying what they do. Any yes, every book reviews every account before a payout. Some are automated, some are not.
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            • Barrakuda
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 02-28-18
              • 786

              #41
              Originally posted by Stallion1080
              No need to sign up. My method is somewhat simple, but very time consuming--I follow the top 5 hottest offenses in the MLB at the current time. I also look at their standings & see how many games they've won over the last 10, most importantly what have they done over the last 5.

              A win streak of 3 or more, typically guarantees a 4th and 5th win (in most cases), which increases team morale, and they play more "loose", basically meaning they have more fun. Most of the teams I follow, hit better on the road and at night.

              You also have to factor in if it's a left handed pitcher or right handed pitcher the team is facing. Then, look to the lineup of their starting 9. If their pitcher is the 9th batter, that is typically 3 outs, (out of the 27 or 24 outs they're guaranteed.) Not to say that pitcher won't get one bunt down, but either way, they typically get thrown out or K...

              Most TT always start out at 4.5 or 5.5 runs pregame. If they're the visiting team, they're guaranteed 27 outs and I start salivating. ;-)

              If they're the home team, and they have the lead going into the 9th, they will only get 24 outs which decreases their chances of getting more runs.

              When you look at the top offenses, you have to compare number of AB vs runs. Not just OBP and SLG, but they also factor in. For example, one of the most productive and efficient offenses in the MLB right now, are the Rangers. I know their record doesn't show it, but when you compare AB vs number of runs scored, their number of at bats is lower than most in the top 8, yet they're in the top 3 for most runs scored. If you want to make money, follow the Twins TT. Byron Buxton is the best 9 hole hitter in the MLB. That gives them 2 lead off hitters.....Twins are hot!

              Top 5 over teams for TT:

              Twins
              Dodgers (road night games are best)
              Rangers
              Yanks
              Dbacks

              If you have other questions, PM me. I can ramble about this all day long. I also played for 19 years. Baseball is all I know.

              Hope this helps. We are all in this together. ⚾️⚾️
              If Bovada actually reads this particular post, I think they will pay and reinstate you immediately! They are not afraid of square strategies.
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              • Stallion1080
                SBR Hustler
                • 03-06-19
                • 66

                #42
                Originally posted by Barrakuda
                If Bovada actually reads this particular post, I think they will pay and reinstate you immediately! They are not afraid of square strategies.
                That's a very good point brother. Although, they haven't locked me out of my account quite yet. They did take away live MLB totals, so now I'm playing full game totals with similar success. But I would love for them to reinstate my live MLB action!!

                Thanks for reaching out! ������������
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                • hehfest
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-28-08
                  • 7934

                  #43
                  Lol. Yeah. I set my alarm for some action on the FIFA womens cup yesturday. I pushed nonetheless. I thought about this Cricket championship recently but never got around to looking into it. US Open for golf is here but I have no idea on that. I need to find some water polo action somewhere. Usually, only see it during Olympics unfortunately. You've got me beat though because I can't pick baseball to save my life. I'm well less than 50% on that stuff.
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                  • Stallion1080
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 03-06-19
                    • 66

                    #44
                    Originally posted by hehfest
                    Lol. Yeah. I set my alarm for some action on the FIFA womens cup yesturday. I pushed nonetheless. I thought about this Cricket championship recently but never got around to looking into it. US Open for golf is here but I have no idea on that. I need to find some water polo action somewhere. Usually, only see it during Olympics unfortunately. You've got me beat though because I can't pick baseball to save my life. I'm well less than 50% on that stuff.
                    Cricket can be a good one too! People laugh when I start talking table tennis. But they're are some players that always win and you can bet it live too!! :-)

                    I had Trump +5000 3 years ago. That was a fun night.;-) Baseball is tough. Talk about numbers!!! Baseball is truly based on stats and player patterns. Even then, they're still human. :-)

                    Did you notice the team totals today?

                    Dbacks were 3.5 (covered)
                    Twins were 4.5 (covered)
                    Rangers were 5.5 (covered)
                    Yanks were 5.5 (covered)
                    Dodgers were 4.5 (lost, but they were playing the Cubs so I stayed away)
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                    • Stallion1080
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 03-06-19
                      • 66

                      #45
                      Update: Now it's a security issue....see attached.
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                      • Stallion1080
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 03-06-19
                        • 66

                        #46
                        **duplicate post***
                        Last edited by Stallion1080; 06-16-19, 02:27 AM. Reason: Duplicate post
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                        • moojoo
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 09-02-16
                          • 938

                          #47
                          SBR should get in touch with this pricks and get info. Its outrageous how they threat you.
                          Barrakuda its not the case,only some fake A+ us books review accounts before every withdrawal.
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                          • Optional
                            Administrator
                            • 06-10-10
                            • 61490

                            #48
                            Originally posted by moojoo
                            SBR should get in touch with this pricks and get info. Its outrageous how they threat you.
                            Barrakuda its not the case,only some fake A+ us books review accounts before every withdrawal.
                            A dispute agent has been in touch with them. Hopefully that helps hurry things up, but we can't just tell them that they should not review his account.
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                            • Stallion1080
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 03-06-19
                              • 66

                              #49
                              Originally posted by moojoo
                              SBR should get in touch with this pricks and get info. Its outrageous how they threat you.
                              Barrakuda its not the case,only some fake A+ us books review accounts before every withdrawal.
                              Hey brother!

                              I filled out an SBR complaint form. Very fast reply and great service from SBR. It's just a waiting game now. Bovada hasn't shut me off and they've been replying to my emails. I've been polite and cordial thus far....but it's getting a bit ridiculous now.

                              Thanks for your reply brother-- best of luck today!
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                              • Stallion1080
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 03-06-19
                                • 66

                                #50
                                Originally posted by Optional
                                A dispute agent has been in touch with them. Hopefully that helps hurry things up, but we can't just tell them that they should not review his account.
                                Hey Optional-

                                Thank you for chiming in here. I had no idea your board offered this service. I joined here awhile ago, but never posted. I'm grateful for your dispute team for all they do!

                                Bovada will find nothing wrong with my wagers. They just got beat at their own game.

                                Thanks again!

                                ST
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                                • Stallion1080
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 03-06-19
                                  • 66

                                  #51
                                  Hey fellas-- I would appreciate your input on this...I emailed Bovada last night and asked them why I was shut off from MLB action, and sent them my method/formula. For some reason I can't attach the actual email right now, so I'm going to copy and paste the correspondence.. Please let me know your input. It sounds like they're saying I'm cheating...? They said my betting patterns are not "recreational. " what does that mean?

                                  Hi,

                                  Of course it's a predictable result. What do you expect me to do? Isn't gambling and gaming all about predicting the winner/outcome of a match?
                                  I did nothing wrong except play your book and now I'm being cheated out of my winnings. Can you please tell me what I did wrong?
                                  Not to mention, I lost a large amount with you guys months ago, so you're not out that much money.
                                  I played baseball for 19 years. I'm sorry my knowledge and love for the game has caused this. I really enjoy your book, web layout, customer service, and wide variety of gaming options.
                                  I want to remain your client for a long time!!
                                  Please make this right and release my funds that I earned ethically and honestly.
                                  Thanks.

                                  Here is their reply:
                                  Hello,
                                  Thanks for contacting Bovada Customer Service.

                                  The decision regarding your available betting lines was made after a careful review of your wagering pattern as it seems the pattern isn't recreational. As we target our limits and payouts in the Racebook to the recreational bettor, we do reserve the right to limit bets, as stated in our rules.
                                  Your withdrawal with Reference Number i2g5a8js1 requested on June 6 via Bitcoin for $9,500, is still being reviewed. This takes approximately 48 hours; however, this is just an estimated timeframe and it may take a bit longer than that.
                                  Once there’s an update with your withdrawal request, it'll be sent to your Bovada account messages. To check your messages, click
                                  here.

                                  Should you have any questions or require any further assistance, please let us know.
                                  Regards,Bovada Customer Service
                                  service@bovada.lv
                                  1-888-263-0000


                                  Last edited by Stallion1080; 06-16-19, 03:02 PM. Reason: Typo
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                                  • Stallion1080
                                    SBR Hustler
                                    • 03-06-19
                                    • 66

                                    #52
                                    UPDATE! Action turned back on--no pay yet...much better communication

                                    After talking with Bovada, and explaining my strategy, they have reinstated my team total action for now. As far as live MLB action, I will find out tonight. But my pregame TT's are back.

                                    Bovada has been much more helpful lately. I feel my payout coming soon.

                                    Stay tuned and thanks to all who chimed in! I appreciate you guys.

                                    ST
                                    Last edited by Stallion1080; 06-17-19, 10:06 PM.
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                                    • pablo222
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-03-19
                                      • 8858

                                      #53
                                      That is a good sign Stallion. Hope you are paid very soon.
                                      It's too bad you didn't get your BTC payout in a timely fashion. If you held on to it that BTC, you would be up another $2000.
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                                      • Daddy89
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 05-09-18
                                        • 84

                                        #54
                                        I hate Bovada.... Intertops much better
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                                        • theflyingbuffalo
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 03-03-18
                                          • 41

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Stallion1080
                                          No need to sign up. My method is somewhat simple, but very time consuming--I follow the top 5 hottest offenses in the MLB at the current time. I also look at their standings & see how many games they've won over the last 10, most importantly what have they done over the last 5.

                                          A win streak of 3 or more, typically guarantees a 4th and 5th win (in most cases), which increases team morale, and they play more "loose", basically meaning they have more fun. Most of the teams I follow, hit better on the road and at night.

                                          You also have to factor in if it's a left handed pitcher or right handed pitcher the team is facing. Then, look to the lineup of their starting 9. If their pitcher is the 9th batter, that is typically 3 outs, (out of the 27 or 24 outs they're guaranteed.) Not to say that pitcher won't get one bunt down, but either way, they typically get thrown out or K...

                                          Most TT always start out at 4.5 or 5.5 runs pregame. If they're the visiting team, they're guaranteed 27 outs and I start salivating. ;-)

                                          If they're the home team, and they have the lead going into the 9th, they will only get 24 outs which decreases their chances of getting more runs.

                                          When you look at the top offenses, you have to compare number of AB vs runs. Not just OBP and SLG, but they also factor in. For example, one of the most productive and efficient offenses in the MLB right now, are the Rangers. I know their record doesn't show it, but when you compare AB vs number of runs scored, their number of at bats is lower than most in the top 8, yet they're in the top 3 for most runs scored. If you want to make money, follow the Twins TT. Byron Buxton is the best 9 hole hitter in the MLB. That gives them 2 lead off hitters.....Twins are hot!

                                          Top 5 over teams for TT:

                                          Twins
                                          Dodgers (road night games are best)
                                          Rangers
                                          Yanks
                                          Dbacks

                                          If you have other questions, PM me. I can ramble about this all day long. I also played for 19 years. Baseball is all I know.

                                          Hope this helps. We are all in this together. ⚾️⚾️
                                          I hope you're trolling
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                                          • Stallion1080
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 03-06-19
                                            • 66

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by pablo222
                                            That is a good sign Stallion. Hope you are paid very soon.
                                            It's too bad you didn't get your BTC payout in a timely fashion. If you held on to it that BTC, you would be up another $2000.
                                            Trust me brother, I've ran the numbers. BTC was around $6900 when I was SUPPOSED to be paid. I would be way up by now!!! Great minds my man! :-)
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                                            • Stallion1080
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 03-06-19
                                              • 66

                                              #57
                                              Dup post
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                                              • Stallion1080
                                                SBR Hustler
                                                • 03-06-19
                                                • 66

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by theflyingbuffalo
                                                I hope you're trolling
                                                No clue what you mean bro.
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                                                • Optional
                                                  Administrator
                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                  • 61490

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by pablo222
                                                  That is a good sign Stallion. Hope you are paid very soon.
                                                  It's too bad you didn't get your BTC payout in a timely fashion. If you held on to it that BTC, you would be up another $2000.
                                                  Sports bettors use bitcoin for transfers... $2000 worth of bitcoin is going to be worth $2000 2 weeks ago, Tomorrow, 2 years ago, 3 months in the future, etc.

                                                  Not a fiat book responsibility or issue at all. If you are investing in bitcoin, then you can (and should) choose a native bitcoin book.

                                                  But almost no one who tries to say a fiat book should pay more if exchange rates go up, actually uses a BTC native book as they don't want to risk the exchange rate going down.


                                                  Originally posted by Stallion1080

                                                  No clue what you mean bro.
                                                  He's trying to be too cool for school and suggest your betting method is no good. Ignore the peanut gallery if they cannot tell you why... so many no nothings here that throw shade like that but could not explain their logic in even basic terms.



                                                  Honestly though, it's very unusual that a book re-instates higher limits, especially for live betting. So I am guessing the Bovada rep may have thought you are a chance to lose your winnings back if they did that after you explained the method :\ (so take care with confidence)
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                                                  • Stallion1080
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 03-06-19
                                                    • 66

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                                    Sports bettors use bitcoin for transfers... $2000 worth of bitcoin is going to be worth $2000 2 weeks ago, Tomorrow, 2 years ago, 3 months in the future, etc.

                                                    Not a fiat book responsibility or issue at all. If you are investing in bitcoin, then you can (and should) choose a native bitcoin book.

                                                    But almost no one who tries to say a fiat book should pay more if exchange rates go up, actually uses a BTC native book as they don't want to risk the exchange rate going down.




                                                    He's trying to be too cool for school and suggest your betting method is no good. Ignore the peanut gallery if they cannot tell you why... so many no nothings here that throw shade like that but could not explain their logic in even basic terms.



                                                    Honestly though, it's very unusual that a book re-instates higher limits, especially for live betting. So I am guessing the Bovada rep may have thought you are a chance to lose your winnings back if they did that after you explained the method :\ (so take care with confidence)
                                                    Ahhhh. Now I see brother. Thanks for clarifying. I can't relate or fix stupid. ;-) and my method might not work for everyone. Anyone that knows baseball, knows it's all about streaks and it's purely statistical.....

                                                    But just to be clear, my live team totals are completely done. I can only bet pregame TT in MLB and that's it. I was hoping live TT would be back tonight, but it's a no go. And that's fine. I just want what I'm owed, and continue from there.

                                                    Again, I really appreciate your board and your team.. amazing help and service thus far. I'm gonna hang around and help out a few guys when I can. ;-)

                                                    Thanks again Optional. Appreciate you!

                                                    ST
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                                                    • Stallion1080
                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                      • 03-06-19
                                                      • 66

                                                      #61
                                                      The thing that urks me the most about all this, is Bovada cancelled my initial withdrawal!!!! Hoping I would just bet it back, like 90% of their clients.
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                                                      • Stallion1080
                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                        • 03-06-19
                                                        • 66

                                                        #62
                                                        16 days and Bovada has not paid.....

                                                        Update: 16 days and no payment from Bovada.

                                                        My account is still "under review."

                                                        Beyond ridiculous. Stay tuned and thanks to all who are helping.

                                                        ST
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                                                        • Stallion1080
                                                          SBR Hustler
                                                          • 03-06-19
                                                          • 66

                                                          #63
                                                          Update: Bovada paid me in full

                                                          I'm sure most of you are tired of hearing about my story with Bovada, but they finally made right on what they owed me. Paid in full 100%.

                                                          A huge thanks to Optional and his team for their support and service!

                                                          I appreciate you guys and thanks to all who chimed in and showed support and love. :-)

                                                          Thanks again,

                                                          ST
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                                                          • lonegambler23
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 06-22-16
                                                            • 9760

                                                            #64
                                                            ST nation
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                                                            • icon
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-09-18
                                                              • 3441

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Optional
                                                              Sports bettors use bitcoin for transfers... $2000 worth of bitcoin is going to be worth $2000 2 weeks ago, Tomorrow, 2 years ago, 3 months in the future, etc.
                                                              True for guys that convert immediately but some people like to hold after a withdrawal and gamble on the price.

                                                              If the price goes up before they convert to fiat they win more.
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                                                              • Optional
                                                                Administrator
                                                                • 06-10-10
                                                                • 61490

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Stallion1080
                                                                I'm sure most of you are tired of hearing about my story with Bovada, but they finally made right on what they owed me. Paid in full 100%.

                                                                A huge thanks to Optional and his team for their support and service!

                                                                I appreciate you guys and thanks to all who chimed in and showed support and love. :-)

                                                                Thanks again,

                                                                ST
                                                                Finally.

                                                                Did they give you any clue what the problem was?

                                                                And thanks for kind words.
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                                                                • Stallion1080
                                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                                  • 03-06-19
                                                                  • 66

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                                                  Finally.

                                                                  Did they give you any clue what the problem was?

                                                                  And thanks for kind words.

                                                                  Hey Optional-

                                                                  Yes and no. A few times they told me I was basically cheating and my patterns weren't "recreational." One email suggested that I was having technical problems and they encouraged me to clear my cache and cookies daily. Another email said my wagers were all being checked for security clearance.....?

                                                                  I honestly have no idea what the holdup was.

                                                                  Thank you again!!!

                                                                  ST
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                                                                  • Stallion1080
                                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                                    • 03-06-19
                                                                    • 66

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by lonegambler23
                                                                    ST nation

                                                                    Woop woop!!! MLB all day!! ⚾️⚾️⚾️⚾️⚾️

                                                                    ST
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                                                                    • fighttoys
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 04-11-19
                                                                      • 30

                                                                      #69
                                                                      I'm sure most of you are tired of hearing about my story with Bovada, but they finally made right on what they owed me. Paid in full 100%.
                                                                      On the contrary, like reading about things like this. Especially when they start limiting action or ban you from a particular wagering preference just because you go on a bit of a winning streak. The odds are always stacked against us and when you win they cry like babies. Tells me to stay away. Thx!!
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                                                                      • DontTailMe
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 03-24-19
                                                                        • 2897

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Stallion1080
                                                                        Hey Optional-

                                                                        Yes and no. A few times they told me I was basically cheating and my patterns weren't "recreational." One email suggested that I was having technical problems and they encouraged me to clear my cache and cookies daily. Another email said my wagers were all being checked for security clearance.....?

                                                                        I honestly have no idea what the holdup was.

                                                                        Thank you again!!!

                                                                        ST
                                                                        Man, that's frustrating. So is it cheating or non-recreational play? Those are two different things. Of course, I wouldn't put it past any "house" to try to twist non-recreational play into the same bucket as "cheating".
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