Anyone get banned or limited at Nitrogen?

[bitcoinLuke]

Wondering what their policy is for winners or anyone's ever been booted. I use them once in a while for betting ,but last night, as I was trying to put a UFC bet in, I got a message several times saying my bet amount was being reviewed(don't remember the exact wording).

Even if they did,wouldn't I just VPN in with a new account?

Just wondered if that was the first step or it was an isolated incident.

[eaglesfan371]

If you're a winning player, you're an idiot to bet with Nitrogen, even if betting in bitcoin only. There are books with better odds such as Fairlay in the bitcoin world. Fairlay and another bitcoin book offer Pinnacle odds exactly, whereas nitrogen adds 2-5 cents of extra juice to EACH side of pinnacle odds.

This is how Nitrogen combats winners as realistically, any +EV bettor would seek best odds, which Nitrogen never offers.

[Frank]

If you're a winning player, you're an idiot to bet with Nitrogen, even if betting in bitcoin only. There are books with better odds such as Fairlay in the bitcoin world. Fairlay and another bitcoin book offer Pinnacle odds exactly, whereas nitrogen adds 2-5 cents of extra juice to EACH side of pinnacle odds.

This is how Nitrogen combats winners as realistically, any +EV bettor would seek best odds, which Nitrogen never offers.

Yeah, Nitrogen is completely useless with the exception of NFL sides.

I don't believe they add the extra juice on those.

I don't think I have placed a bet there since football ended.

There are some who have been banned though.

Some huge groups were pounding Nitrogen lines over and over.......since they aren't actual bookmakers.....they just copy and never move on action.....and getting a ton down......and then wipe out the screen and blow the Pinnacle number up afterwards, which Nitrogen copies.

Huge whales or syndicates could really ravage the books who have no idea how to book to action in this scenario.

[bitcoinLuke]

If you're a winning player, you're an idiot to bet with Nitrogen, even if betting in bitcoin only. There are books with better odds such as Fairlay in the bitcoin world. Fairlay and another bitcoin book offer Pinnacle odds exactly, whereas nitrogen adds 2-5 cents of extra juice to EACH side of pinnacle odds.

This is how Nitrogen combats winners as realistically, any +EV bettor would seek best odds, which Nitrogen never offers.

Thanks. Will check out Fairlay.

I was only betting the UFC fights, and to be fair, Nitrogen has better UFC odds than Bookmaker, and I dont have to hold my balance in USD. I will bookmaker would just give you the option of holding a BTC or USD balance. Have suggested it several times in the past

[Optional]

Wondering what their policy is for winners or anyone's ever been booted. I use them once in a while for betting ,but last night, as I was trying to put a UFC bet in, I got a message several times saying my bet amount was being reviewed(don't remember the exact wording).

Even if they did,wouldn't I just VPN in with a new account?

Just wondered if that was the first step or it was an isolated incident.

Having bets sent for trader review before acceptance has happened to me at every book I have ever played at as far as I can recall.

Why are you concerned about it?

[bitcoinLuke]

Having bets sent for trader review before acceptance has happened to me at every book I have ever played at as far as I can recall.

Why are you concerned about it?

Just because its never happened before. Was wondering if its going to happen every time now, my account was now being watched, or I'm on a short leash . When this started happening at 5dimes, the reviews caused me to miss out on a lot of bets.

[Optional]

Hard to be sure until you see what happens. You could have just bet a market that was high liability for them.

If it happens every time they have you flagged for sure.

[Salam]

looks like they got me

Error 1015 You are being rate limited

What happened?

The owner of this website (nitrogensports.eu) has banned you temporarily from accessing this website.

[Optional]

looks like they got me

Error 1015 You are being rate limited

What happened?

The owner of this website (nitrogensports.eu) has banned you temporarily from accessing this website.

That is different.

You get that when you refresh the pages on their website a lot.

You will get access back again after a few minutes.

[littlekona]

That is different.

You get that when you refresh the pages on their website a lot.

You will get access back again after a few minutes.

or use VPN/Change IP that works too

[TennisAceE]

or use VPN/Change IP that works too

I would be very careful of using a VPN at Nitrogen.
Proceed with caution if you choose to do so, it's a great way for them to keep your money.

[raiders72001]

I would be very careful of using a VPN at Nitrogen.
Proceed with caution if you choose to do so, it's a great way for them to keep your money.

They won't confiscate your money.

[littlekona]

They won't confiscate your money.

I use VPN on and off all the time...They have excellent security and I will get a frozen account from time to time if I use VPN to process a withdrawal request where they ask me for my Home IP address then release fast...never an issue beyond that BUT i am also not trying to scam or multi account or hide who I am

[energizer]

The lines may not be the best at Nitrogen but they do pay winners and high rollers. You may get juicy lines at another book but if you win big, will they pay? I'd prefer having not to stress about getting a big payout. Personal preferences I guess.

[TennisAceE]

I use VPN on and off all the time...They have excellent security and I will get a frozen account from time to time if I use VPN to process a withdrawal request where they ask me for my Home IP address then release fast...never an issue beyond that BUT i am also not trying to scam or multi account or hide who I am

May I ask if you have submitted KYC documents to them to prove your identity?
Or are you just saying you have no problem doing so if you were asked to.

[littlekona]

May I ask if you have submitted KYC documents to them to prove your identity?
Or are you just saying you have no problem doing so if you were asked to.

No full blown kyc just asked me proof of my home IP address which ive provided few times...always quickly fixed and account un frozen & withdrawal sent..seems to happen only when im traveling or vpn in

[eaglesfan371]

Can this post stop being bumped... NO ONE who is a TRUE professional gambler, with models built and all, bets on Nitrogen. They NEVER offer best odds or highest limits. If someone says they play professionally, sports betting, on nitrogen, they’re somehow just stupid af.

Plus, with nitrogen having basically an affiliate account with pinnacle, winning players, they could simply book the bets on pinnacle and make the extra 2 cents they charge on all lines, 100% of time.

Everyone dreams of that ego boost moment of “being limited” it gives you the delusion of grandeur that oh my god I’ve made it I’m respected I’m a winner, Nitrogen just laughs at you to the bank.

And yes, one of the few things that trigger me is nitrogen. Everyone knows of them cause of their marketing, but they’re greedy pigs. They used to be great then shit changed several years ago. I despise people who talk them up because all they offer is a degenerate chatroom and shit lines.

[acquavallo]

Can this post stop being bumped... NO ONE who is a TRUE professional gambler, with models built and all, bets on Nitrogen. They NEVER offer best odds or highest limits. If someone says they play professionally, sports betting, on nitrogen, they’re somehow just stupid af.

Plus, with nitrogen having basically an affiliate account with pinnacle, winning players, they could simply book the bets on pinnacle and make the extra 2 cents they charge on all lines, 100% of time.

Everyone dreams of that ego boost moment of “being limited” it gives you the delusion of grandeur that oh my god I’ve made it I’m respected I’m a winner, Nitrogen just laughs at you to the bank.

And yes, one of the few things that trigger me is nitrogen. Everyone knows of them cause of their marketing, but they’re greedy pigs. They used to be great then shit changed several years ago. I despise people who talk them up because all they offer is a degenerate chatroom and shit lines.

For many, it works out better to take a slightly lower win % while riding the crypto bull run, instead of converting back to lesser-priced dollars.

[eaglesfan371]

For many, it works out better to take a slightly lower win % while riding the crypto bull run, instead of converting back to lesser-priced dollars.

There are other bitcoin books that accept and pay out bets in bitcoin. Such as fairlay, cloudbet and betcoin. Fairlay offers pinnacle odds, never extra juice so they are 100% of the time better odds AND always higher limits than nitrogen. Thus, I still argue, no actual professional would ever choose nitrogen.

[Sanity Check]

If you're a winning player, you're an idiot to bet with Nitrogen, even if betting in bitcoin only. There are books with better odds such as Fairlay in the bitcoin world. Fairlay and another bitcoin book offer Pinnacle odds exactly, whereas nitrogen adds 2-5 cents of extra juice to EACH side of pinnacle odds.

Is it cost effective to bother with odds shopping?

Most of you probably put $50 to $100 down per bet.

The difference between -100 and +110 is only about $5 to $10 in winnings in 1 to 2 unit wagers(standard $50 / unit). Unless you're doing largers sums $1,000 to $10,000+ those paltry differences in odds you're citing won't make much difference at all.

You would probably see better savings printing out coupons for shopping.

[littlekona]

Is it cost effective to bother with odds shopping?

Most of you probably put $50 to $100 down per bet.

The difference between -100 and +110 is only about $5 to $10 in winnings in 1 to 2 unit wagers(standard $50 / unit). Unless you're doing largers sums $1,000 to $10,000+ those paltry differences in odds you're citing won't make much difference at all.

You would probably see better savings printing out coupons for shopping.

what are you talking about it makes huge difference with any volume at all. It basically makes it possible to win long run...Nitrogen has its place as I use for parlays and poker and is a top trusted site but to say you would take -100 nitro vs +110 Fairlay is silly. Eaglesfan is 100% right

[jjgold]

nitro terrible guys

odds horrible

[Sanity Check]

what are you talking about it makes huge difference with any volume at all. It basically makes it possible to win long run...Nitrogen has its place as I use for parlays and poker and is a top trusted site but to say you would take -100 nitro vs +110 Fairlay is silly. Eaglesfan is 100% right

There is such an incredibly high profit potential present in sports gambling I don't bother chasing odds.

No need to. If you can get 50% or higher ROI on a solid cap, chasing an additional 3% is pointless. To me anyway.

Think of hedge fund managers who are ecstatic to manage 5% ROI annually. Potential ROI in sports gambling is exponentially higher I don't understand why people bother chasing odds.

[raiders72001]

Can this post stop being bumped... NO ONE who is a TRUE professional gambler, with models built and all, bets on Nitrogen. They NEVER offer best odds or highest limits. If someone says they play professionally, sports betting, on nitrogen, they’re somehow just stupid af.

Plus, with nitrogen having basically an affiliate account with pinnacle, winning players, they could simply book the bets on pinnacle and make the extra 2 cents they charge on all lines, 100% of time.

Everyone dreams of that ego boost moment of “being limited” it gives you the delusion of grandeur that oh my god I’ve made it I’m respected I’m a winner, Nitrogen just laughs at you to the bank.

And yes, one of the few things that trigger me is nitrogen. Everyone knows of them cause of their marketing, but they’re greedy pigs. They used to be great then shit changed several years ago. I despise people who talk them up because all they offer is a degenerate chatroom and shit lines.

Pros hit Nitrogen lines since they aren't moving Pinny lines. Players are also guaranteed to be paid.

[DontTailMe]

There is such an incredibly high profit potential present in sports gambling I don't bother chasing odds.

No need to. If you can get 50% or higher ROI on a solid cap, chasing an additional 3% is pointless. To me anyway.

Think of hedge fund managers who are ecstatic to manage 5% ROI annually. Potential ROI in sports gambling is exponentially higher I don't understand why people bother chasing odds.

With a number as high as 50%, you must be talking about ROI on something like an annual basis, which is closer to how a financial investment might be measured. Because obviously no sports better is getting anywhere close to 50% ROI on a per dollar invested (staked) basis.

The primary difference between financial investments and sports betting helps illustrate why those small percentages are important. Unless your a stock day-trader, you're not buying and selling assets on a daily basis. You're holding onto them for a much longer period of time. In contrast, you're reinvesting your sports bankroll dollar over and over again every day or every few days. Your profits literally compound. It's kind of shocking that you don't see how small advantages here and there can add up to much greater profit at high volumes.

Also, for some, those small % differences can mean the difference between profitable betting...and losing.

[Sanity Check]

obviously no sports better is getting anywhere close to 50% ROI on a per dollar invested (staked) basis.

"Obviously."

Disagree.

[DontTailMe]

"Obviously."

Disagree.

Okau, I think I misread your post regarding the 50% ROI.

But why didn’t you address anything else in my post? How can a few % difference be insignificant when you’re betting at high volumes (placing several bets per day and re-investing the same dollar every couple of days)? Surely you must see that it compounds.

[Sanity Check]

Okau, I think I misread your post regarding the 50% ROI.

But why didn’t you address anything else in my post? How can a few % difference be insignificant when you’re betting at high volumes (placing several bets per day and re-investing the same dollar every couple of days)? Surely you must see that it compounds.

Its basic math. Start with a single penny. Win 30 straight bets at even odds, betting all winnings. Your initial $0.01 bankroll will compound to more than a million dollars.

The earnings and profiteering potential of sports gambling is so high that if you have to shop around for odds to net positive gains it could mean your approach is flawed in some fundamental way.

[DontTailMe]

Its basic math. Start with a single penny. Win 30 straight bets at even odds, betting all winnings. Your initial $0.01 bankroll will compound to more than a million dollars.

The earnings and profiteering potential of sports gambling is so high that if you have to shop around for odds to net positive gains it could mean your approach is flawed in some fundamental way.

Not necessarily. Why not win $2 million instead of just $1 million? If the winnings compound, as you readily admit, then you should be trying to add every single edge available to you. You're argument essentially boils down to "it's okay to be lazy". Yeah, it is...as long as you're satisfied with earning a lot less. And that's not a judgement of your position. It's perfectly legitimate to decide that you'd rather allocate your time elsewhere. But to say that it's not cost effective for people to line shop is simply ridiculous.

[Sanity Check]

Not necessarily. Why not win $2 million instead of just $1 million? If the winnings compound, as you readily admit, then you should be trying to add every single edge available to you. You're argument essentially boils down to "it's okay to be lazy". Yeah, it is...as long as you're satisfied with earning a lot less. And that's not a judgement of your position. It's perfectly legitimate to decide that you'd rather allocate your time elsewhere. But to say that it's not cost effective for people to line shop is simply ridiculous.

My approach to sports gambling is to start with a goal of learning to not worship money. Focus on identifying & reducing how emotions like greed negatively affect judgement and decisions.

Looking at gambling as a way to "make money" or "chasing odds" could be the type of mentality that leads to people making bad plays they wouldn't normally make if money wasn't involved.

I don't know if I could be considered pro but I am above 50% ROI in all time stats.

[Optional]

More than one way to skin a cat

[littlekona]

Its basic math. Start with a single penny. Win 30 straight bets at even odds, betting all winnings. Your initial $0.01 bankroll will compound to more than a million dollars.

The earnings and profiteering potential of sports gambling is so high that if you have to shop around for odds to net positive gains it could mean your approach is flawed in some fundamental way.

You sir have what in the poker world is called "leak in your game' it happens to many and most dont know it until they review hand histories...
Good luck