Kentucky Derby is monumental

**michael777** · 05-04-19, 07:23 PM

It was clearly a foul,the 1 almost went down,the 7 came out 5 paths,wise up son

**Ant23** · 05-04-19, 07:28 PM

So why didn't the #1 object? Is it because the crying ads #20 did? The best horse in the field got robbed....by another bullshit replay. The track was slicker than snot so if you know anything about horse racing that gives you leeway as long as you don't make contact....i.e. foul. The #1 knew the best horse won & you do too.....until the fix. At least this loss(stolen) wasn't because of an NBA official

**mtneer1212** · 05-04-19, 07:43 PM

Your anger is misplaced. Blame the jockey. Blame the horse. Blame your rotten luck. But the call was 100% correct and was an easy DQ. Don't blame the judges or the other jockeys. The 20 was affected also, thus the claim of foul. The 1 is not going to object because it will not get him any money to move from 15th to 14th...

**littlekona** · 05-04-19, 07:45 PM

if the race was in California, Florida, NY or NJ winner stays up as they have the clause for the best horse and implied hitting board costing a place member Bayern taking out half the field years back in classic and staying winner...This was bad call

**Ant23** · 05-04-19, 07:56 PM

littlekona.......agree 100%
mtneer1212......#1 horse had plenty more reason to object than the crybaby #20 because he was actually really close to the #7
whoever made that decision will be hiding & changing the phone #....there is a reason #7 jockey had no mud on his clothes after the race......BECAUSE HE WAS OUT FRONT THE ENTIRE GOT DAMN RACE

**mtneer1212** · 05-04-19, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by littlekona

if the race was in California, Florida, NY or NJ winner stays up as they have the clause for the best horse and implied hitting board costing a place member Bayern taking out half the field years back in classic and staying winner...This was bad call

The rule actually is the horse stays up as long as it does not cost other horses a better placing. It cost several horses a check, so your interpretation of the rule is not correct. The horse was being DQed in California, Idaho, or Saskatchewan.

**mtneer1212** · 05-04-19, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by Ant23

littlekona.......agree 100%
mtneer1212......#1 horse had plenty more reason to object than the crybaby #20 because he was actually really close to the #7
whoever made that decision will be hiding & changing the phone #....there is a reason #7 jockey had no mud on his clothes after the race......BECAUSE HE WAS OUT FRONT THE ENTIRE GOT DAMN RACE

I agree #1 was most affected. But he is not going to claim foul because it doesn't gain him anything moving up from 15th to 14th after the foul. There SHOULD have been an INQUIRY anyway. Correct call was made. It was a horrible beat for you, and I'd be fuming. But #7 was guilty, hurt several horses chances, and despite being much the best, he has to come down.

**littlekona** · 05-04-19, 08:25 PM

Per jeff seagle..

I don't know what the "letter of the law" is in Ky. I do know that in California there's a DQ only if it's determined that a placing (or a larger share of the purse) is lost due to a foul. Yes, that's a judgement call, but aren't they all? That guideline was ignored today.

Remember Bayern in classic thats all i have to say...

**Ant23** · 05-04-19, 08:34 PM

Sloppy track....do you really think with the conditions being so bad & over 140k people there that a horse who is running out FRONT is going to be able to run w/o drifting out of an INVISIBLE lane? Why do humans(refs/umpires/officials/judges) always have to screw up things so obvious Stevie Wonder could see #7 Was the best horse in the derby?
I'm so mad I walked 1/2way to the neighbors pasture & threw a rock at a horse!! Or was it a cow? Maybe I should ask an official!!! Gotta find humor in this terrible call or else I wouldn't be able to sleep!! I'm done with the ponies!! Even the virtual ones

**michael777** · 05-04-19, 09:05 PM

You are in way over your head here on this one son,just stop

**Ant23** · 05-04-19, 09:19 PM

Well Twinspires reports someone bet $2500 on #20 horse to win $162k......I wonder if he/she threw the ticket away after the race only to go through the trash trying to find it? They reported that many degenerates who took #20 had tossed their tix on the ground & had to scramble to find them after the b.s. ruling

**mtneer1212** · 05-05-19, 01:42 AM

Originally posted by Ant23

Well Twinspires reports someone bet $2500 on #20 horse to win $162k......I wonder if he/she threw the ticket away after the race only to go through the trash trying to find it? They reported that many degenerates who took #20 had tossed their tix on the ground & had to scramble to find them after the b.s. ruling

Fake news. Twinspires is an online outlet. There are no paper tickets. Secondly, if you did throw your ticket away before the official light went on, you are a moron.

**darrell74** · 05-05-19, 04:02 AM

Originally posted by Ant23

Today I placed & won....then lost due to an appeal by a jockey who was handed the 1st leg of the Triple Crown because of an objection. It will be the very last and possibly worst bad beat I've ever had on the PONIES. Never before have I seen a triple crown leg get stolen by a crying ass jockey. To the judges who made the horrible decision to steal the race from #7 I hope you like the spotlight because you are now famous......for being a got damn idiot!!!!
I'm so mad I feel like betting on a hockey game.....something else I've never done!!!
Ripped off in kentucky......and it wasn't Calipari's fault!!

You have my deepest sympathies.
I've had my heart and soul ripped out of my chest over this kind of stuff before.
I've bet horses for over 3 years, and I bet a lot. I mean a lot more than most people.on here.

Anybody on here that's giving you shit, obviously, hasn't bet enough to know that this sucks.

Truth about the call is it could have gone either way.
Yeah, you got a right to be angry.

**Thunderground** · 05-05-19, 05:17 AM

I've been p*ssed off with the stewards plenty of times, but this was a very clear DQ imo. That could have been a horrible pile-up. I also think this would have been a DQ in any race and at any place. It was a clear foul. It's just too bad it happened in the KY Derby. Mostly I feel relief that there was no disastrous outcome.

Too bad for those who lost money as a result, but stewards decisions come with the territory. It's just one race. Blow off steam and move on.

**semibluff** · 05-05-19, 01:31 PM

There was a clear foul and the likely result was that the horse that would have finished 2nd...didn't. By rule a foul that costs another competitor money from a lower placing results in a disqualification. That Maximum Security would have won anyway is irrelevant to the decision.

**picantel** · 05-05-19, 02:17 PM

I had a pile of cash on the #1 with a backup on the #7 so this one hurt badly. I also had a 1-7-all and a 7-1-all which I am almost 100% sure I would have won had there not been interference. However, the call was correct because the Ms clearly interfered with multiple horses. There was no crying.

**relaaxx** · 05-05-19, 03:26 PM

clear foul,best horse bullshit is nuts.

**Optional** · 05-06-19, 05:11 AM

Originally posted by relaaxx

clear foul,best horse bullshit is nuts.

I think the NBC commentators caused a lot of the anger over it, and talk about best horse won etc.

I thought the #20 was pushed a lane or two wider and missed one stride, so was affected enough to justify the protest myself. And it was tough to imagine the #7 would not be penalized in some way once that objection went in.

**BigdaddyQH** · 05-06-19, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by Ant23

Today I placed & won....then lost due to an appeal by a jockey who was handed the 1st leg of the Triple Crown because of an objection. It will be the very last and possibly worst bad beat I've ever had on the PONIES. Never before have I seen a triple crown leg get stolen by a crying ass jockey. To the judges who made the horrible decision to steal the race from #7 I hope you like the spotlight because you are now famous......for being a got damn idiot!!!!
I'm so mad I feel like betting on a hockey game.....something else I've never done!!!
Ripped off in kentucky......and it wasn't Calipari's fault!!

Stop your whining little girl. You obviously know nothing about the rules of Horse Racing. The horse came out 4 to 5 paths, impeded at least 4 horses, and nearly caused a major disaster. His jockey admitted that the horse was spooked. You are just like the other losers in here. Looking to blame anyone or anything for your loss except the fact that you took the wrong horse. Grow up or get the f**k out of here. There are enough losing whiners like you to last this site for years.

**15805** · 05-06-19, 01:32 PM

I love front runners & when I witnessed M Security demolishing
the field wire to wire in the Florida Derby I knew than was
my horse for the triple crown races. Got him at 9 to 1 bet $40
to win $360 at an online book. If MS hypothetically would have
raced 10 times against the eventual winner he'd win all 10 times.
The only other time a horse I bet on was taken down was
the 1967 or 68 Jersey Derby when the freakish speed demon greatest
front runner of them all Dr. Fager interfered as did Max Sec yesterday.
Dr. Fager won by 6 1/2 lengths before he didn't win. This race maybe
not the racehorse bought back memories of that day.

If anyone enjoys a battle of champions 1967 Horse of the year Damascus,
1968 Horse of the yea Dr, Fager & 1966 Horse of the year
Buckpasser. The only time 3 Horses of the Year ever matched up
was the 68 Woodword stakes in NY.

For younger racing fans Check Out On You Tube:
'Dr. Fager vs. Damascus - Meeting Of Champions'

**Ant23** · 05-06-19, 05:51 PM

LITTLE daddyQH....I got your little girl BOY. I wasn't crying about losing you moron I was complaining that NEVER in the history of the KENTUCKY DERBY has ever been DQ'ed for such. So until I ask you please keep your comments to yourself little BOY. I lost more $$$ on that b.s. race than most folks on this site make in a month. I wasn't saying the rule wasn't a rule.....but in NC homie we call a "spade" a "spade" and if they don't like it we deal with them. Enjoy chasing your 6 dealer for $5 tonight....maybe you will win some $$$ to buy your little girl something