Oh noes, I think I just made a big misstake (betus).

**thespeculator** · 07-11-09, 08:34 AM

well according to some posters they are improving , i don't think you should have problems getting your money out if you win, alot of these books offer easy deposits so people use them, but i would rather put with annoying deposit options than have to put with no payouts, stick with greek or betjm, 5dimes, matchbook

**Chuck Sims** · 07-11-09, 11:03 AM

BetUS are run by thieves. They pay their longterm losers and stiff proven winners. Even if they pay you, remember they are crooks so best to get out of there before your number comes up to be stiffed.

**ijustwant2bpaid** · 07-11-09, 01:03 PM

i wold bet opposite of jm's system, read threads concerning the fixing going on there...

**DukeJohn** · 07-12-09, 05:47 AM

Originally posted by zlikir

I bought JM's system about a month ago, I choose betus as my bookie, since he recommended it so greatly. Now I read terrible stuff about betus, not paying you etc... I put in 1000$ (biggest roll I've ever started up with in betting) and currently need to wager another 4664$ to cash out.
Is there anything I can do to cashout now, or is my only option just to wager those 4664$ and hope for the best?

Thanks in advance.

Since, I believe, his system is a chase system that rollover shouldn't take too long... Not sure how much you are betting... Also, from what I have read, if you can, you might want to open another account at another book, as not only is Betus a lower rated book, but I have read they alter the lines for JM customers...

**zlikir** · 07-12-09, 07:11 AM

My bankroll is at 1600$ now, and I'm betting 75$/a-bet...
I will change bookie as soon as I can cash out from betus, that's for sure, I just hope the payout goes smooth... I fear it won't though

.

**Justin7** · 07-12-09, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by Chuck Sims

BetUS are run by thieves. They pay their longterm losers and stiff proven winners. Even if they pay you, remember they are crooks so best to get out of there before your number comes up to be stiffed.

Chuck,

BetUS has not stiffed anyone I know of since I have been involved with SBR. Do you have first hand information to the contrary?

**brandon m** · 07-13-09, 06:52 PM

Justin7 does betus change lines for JM system bets that you know of? I'm about to start an account with them and am just reading as much as I can about them

**Justin7** · 07-13-09, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by brandon martinez

Justin7 does betus change lines for JM system bets that you know of? I'm about to start an account with them and am just reading as much as I can about them

Yes.

**Smurf71** · 08-03-09, 05:02 PM

The biggest fan of JM is JM!

I have been with JM for 2 years. I do record all his picks and plays but I have never played it for real. JM is not a crook, he has put together his chase systems based on statistical analysis. They do work up to the point and good thing he is developing them all the the time ,so they have become more advanced over the time. If you use JM system, don't be a lamb, play in BM, in other books that allow higher limits, don't use BetUs for that matter. I think that JM has a deal with BetUS that he can take them for 200-300k/year as long as he brings in new lambs to be slaughtered...If you use your head , JM can be quite good ride.

**Zelda** · 08-03-09, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by Justin7

Chuck,

BetUS has not stiffed anyone I know of since I have been involved with SBR. Do you have first hand information to the contrary?

Not Chuck

but i did read of several cases a few years ago.
Not lately no, but does that make it much better? Doubt it.

**Chuck Sims** · 08-03-09, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by Justin7

Chuck,

BetUS has not stiffed anyone I know of since I have been involved with SBR. Do you have first hand information to the contrary?

No, I do not know first hand of any current BetUS stiff jobs.

The owner of BetUS are crooks and have a history of stiffing. No respected sportsbook that I know of will do transfers with BetUS. One of the owners was shot by persons unknown. Because BetUS does mass mailing here in the states ala BetOnSports, it would not surprise me if the feds are looking to bury this book like they did BetOnSports. BetUS should be avoided.

**trixtrix** · 08-04-09, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by Smurf71

I have been with JM for 2 years. I do record all his picks and plays but I have never played it for real. JM is not a crook, he has put together his chase systems based on statistical analysis. They do work up to the point and good thing he is developing them all the the time ,so they have become more advanced over the time. If you use JM system, don't be a lamb, play in BM, in other books that allow higher limits, don't use BetUs for that matter. I think that JM has a deal with BetUS that he can take them for 200-300k/year as long as he brings in new lambs to be slaughtered...If you use your head , JM can be quite good ride.

you're the most sincere poster i have ever met

**HotStreak** · 08-04-09, 07:28 AM

Originally posted by zlikir

My bankroll is at 1600$ now, and I'm betting 75$/a-bet...
I will change bookie as soon as I can cash out from betus, that's for sure, I just hope the payout goes smooth... I fear it won't though

.

If your that concerned, set up at another shop, and try to scalp your way out of BetUs.

Best of luck.

**JELLYBEAN** · 08-04-09, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by Justin7

Chuck,

BetUS has not stiffed anyone I know of since I have been involved with SBR. Do you have first hand information to the contrary?

So that makes up for all the people who they stiffed aleady? Your a real piece of work my friend.

**PAPSMEAR** · 08-04-09, 08:55 AM

I exited BETUS after all the adverse write-ups on SBR but personally I cashed out some good amounts without any real hassle except the usual please send in your proof of ID 7 times because we want to stall on paying you routine. I can't really complain to be honest

**JoshW** · 08-04-09, 09:15 AM

I don't know anything about JM, but you should likley just play out your deposit and rollover and withdrawal and look elsewhere. Unless you need BetUS for some amazing numbers or props, you can do better with a recommended book where you won't have to worry about getting paid. BetUS has a history of slow paying and changing the rules on the fly.

**cinpls081** · 08-04-09, 09:43 AM

no issues at all paying. Not sure what happened in the past but my personal experience is they are fine. Don't take the bonus rollover is HUGE and hard to meet