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  • SportsSharingun
    SBR Rookie
    • 08-26-18
    • 28

    #1
    Best books for winning players
    For a couple months I've been a winning player and I'd like to continue playing and hopefully get something extra out of sportsbetting.


    What books allow winning/pro players as long as they don't arb/crap you shouldn't be doing?


    So far I've been using Bookmaker.eu, which I've read allows professional players but I wanted to hear from the community.
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    Bookmaker
    Pinnacle
    Heritage not bad
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    • SportsSharingun
      SBR Rookie
      • 08-26-18
      • 28

      #3
      Thanks!
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      • DISTROYA
        SBR MVP
        • 04-26-12
        • 2911

        #4
        none....you will get the boot from everyone or be limited if you continue...they are prob trying to figure you out right now.
        Pinnacle if your allowed, and thats about it.
        Heritage used to be, they are #1 paranoid now.
        5dimes=ditto
        bookmaker will take good action as long as you dont kill them/give back some in their casino, GL

        sportsbetting.ag also an underrated action taker.
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        • SportsSharingun
          SBR Rookie
          • 08-26-18
          • 28

          #5
          Originally posted by DISTROYA
          none....you will get the boot from everyone or be limited if you continue...they are prob trying to figure you out right now.
          Pinnacle if your allowed, and thats about it.
          Heritage used to be, they are #1 paranoid now.
          5dimes=ditto
          bookmaker will take good action as long as you dont kill them/give back some in their casino, GL
          sportsbetting.ag also an underrated action taker.
          Thanks for the input. Noobie here, what amount is defined as "good action".
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          • BrickJames
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 05-05-11
            • 9749

            #6
            Don't for get about exchanges.
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            • TourLooper
              SBR Hustler
              • 05-24-18
              • 95

              #7
              Bookmaker is the best...stick with them. They won't boot you if you win. But they will cancel your bonuses if they think you're a pro.
              Agree with Heritage being paranoid. They won't boot you but they'll cut your limits.
              Pinnacle and Nitrogen are good for big wheelers. No bonuses though.
              LowVig has much better odds than boomaker but no bonuses. They don't care how you play and they pay fast. A+ book. I think they're a sister site to BetOnline so they have the backing.
              Bovada and 5Dimes. Meh. Overrated imho..
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              • donjuan
                SBR MVP
                • 08-29-07
                • 3993

                #8
                Originally posted by jjgold
                Bookmaker
                Pinnacle
                Heritage not bad
                LOL Heritage will pretty aggressively cut you and throw in extra juice just for fun.
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                • SportsSharingun
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 08-26-18
                  • 28

                  #9
                  Originally posted by TourLooper
                  Bookmaker is the best...stick with them. They won't boot you if you win. But they will cancel your bonuses if they think you're a pro.
                  Agree with Heritage being paranoid. They won't boot you but they'll cut your limits.
                  Pinnacle and Nitrogen are good for big wheelers. No bonuses though.
                  LowVig has much better odds than boomaker but no bonuses. They don't care how you play and they pay fast. A+ book. I think they're a sister site to BetOnline so they have the backing.
                  Bovada and 5Dimes. Meh. Overrated imho..
                  It sounds like bookmaker and pinnacle are the most uniformly agreed upon, though I don't currently have access to pinnacle.

                  You make it sound like lowvig is the probably the most optimal choice though.
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                  • robbypark
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 03-13-18
                    • 794

                    #10
                    Pinnacle is the best. They won't kick you or limit you no matter what. In fact, the book prides itself on taking punter action.

                    If you have no access to Pinnacle, Bookmaker, The Greek and even Betonline are decent choices. If you are amazing, you will eventually get the boot but that is far far away(You have to rack up a plus of high 5 or even 6 figures)
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                    • SportsSharingun
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 08-26-18
                      • 28

                      #11
                      Originally posted by robbypark
                      Pinnacle is the best. They won't kick you or limit you no matter what. In fact, the book prides itself on taking punter action.

                      If you have no access to Pinnacle, Bookmaker, The Greek and even Betonline are decent choices. If you are amazing, you will eventually get the boot but that is far far away(You have to rack up a plus of high 5 or even 6 figures)
                      Do bookmakers care more about the amount you win or the percentage you win/EV of your bets when they think about limiting/banning you?
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                      • goduke
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-17-10
                        • 11580

                        #12
                        You are fine right where you are. You'll lose your betpoints and bonuses if youre good enough but they will never limit your action at your current book
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                        • Yjacket22``
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 02-03-18
                          • 82

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DISTROYA
                          none....you will get the boot from everyone or be limited if you continue...they are prob trying to figure you out right now.
                          Pinnacle if your allowed, and thats about it.
                          Heritage used to be, they are #1 paranoid now.
                          5dimes=ditto
                          bookmaker will take good action as long as you dont kill them/give back some in their casino, GL

                          sportsbetting.ag also an underrated action taker.

                          I was with Heritage for around 6 months making small bets that averaged $20. Bet lots of teasers and never won nothing. Did good to break even and they collared me........won't let me bet open teasers or parlays no more, along with no promotions. Super paranoid. I think their risk management department gets bored and comes up with crap like this. Anyway, I've actually done better there since they collared me.
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                          • Alfie White
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 09-02-17
                            • 684

                            #14
                            You might consider switching your action to brokers; since they earn on your TO, they would welcome your action with open hands. Be wary of some though, they impose some stupid "winning per day" limits, so should be avoided.

                            (edit: if they cover your sports/markets, that is)
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                            • TourLooper
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 05-24-18
                              • 95

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SportsSharingun
                              It sounds like bookmaker and pinnacle are the most uniformly agreed upon, though I don't currently have access to pinnacle.

                              You make it sound like lowvig is the probably the most optimal choice though.
                              Bookmaker is your best choice imo. LowVig is good if you want to compare or shop for lines. You won't get booted from either one for winning. You can bet 5-10k a day on either site and they won't even blink. Just cash out your bet points on bookmaker fairly regularly in case they decide to pull your bonuses.
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #16
                                Matchbook no such thing as banning you could win $10 million and they keep coming back for you


                                For USA books I would think bookmaker
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                                • SportsSharingun
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 08-26-18
                                  • 28

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                  Matchbook no such thing as banning you could win $10 million and they keep coming back for you
                                  For USA books I would think bookmaker
                                  Is matchbook available to American players?
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                                  • danwinkler
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 05-22-18
                                    • 461

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by SportsSharingun
                                    For a couple months I've been a winning player and I'd like to continue playing and hopefully get something extra out of sportsbetting.
                                    What books allow winning/pro players as long as they don't arb/crap you shouldn't be doing?
                                    So far I've been using Bookmaker.eu, which I've read allows professional players but I wanted to hear from the community.
                                    Not many books can accommodate bigger bettors who win long term. But there are few. Here is a good list of the best ones.
                                    Also not that that any book that can't handle arb players is not a good because it means they don't have enough volume. Good book that caters to long term winners will have no problem with arb players.
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                                    • Craig22
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 01-14-16
                                      • 370

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                      Bookmaker
                                      Pinnacle
                                      Heritage not bad
                                      Heritage limits so quick if you beat the closing line consistently.
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                                      • BetBothSides
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 08-28-18
                                        • 65

                                        #20
                                        bookmaker group and pinnacle will pretty much never cut you. Betonline will probably take a long time to get limited too.
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                                        • SportsSharingun
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 08-26-18
                                          • 28

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by danwinkler
                                          Not many books can accommodate bigger bettors who win long term. But there are few. Here is a good list of the best ones.
                                          Also not that that any book that can't handle arb players is not a good because it means they don't have enough volume. Good book that caters to long term winners will have no problem with arb players.
                                          I didn't think about this, makes sense, thanks for the post.

                                          Also occurred to me that if a book is sharp then they're still profiting from the arber, its the other book that takes the L.
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                                          • tercja5
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 08-12-18
                                            • 102

                                            #22
                                            Pinacle number 1.....Bookmakers eu ...now down..... Sbobet ok...
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                                            • MikeTizzy
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-09-12
                                              • 1192

                                              #23
                                              take it from me, like JJ baldy says, its Pinnacle, Bookmaker, Heritage, then i would say Bovada recently upgraded their business model, Bovada super solid all around now, with easy bitcoin play too. I currently have legend tier 3 account there, the next and last rewards level is Hall of Fame reward tier. 5dimes is best for recreational, along with BetUS
                                              Last edited by MikeTizzy; 08-28-18, 02:46 PM.
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                                              • MikeTizzy
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-09-12
                                                • 1192

                                                #24
                                                then if u need the best books for the pros in the physical world, Westgate Las Vegas has the biggest book that takes the highest limits, Belagio has a pretty big book from what ive heard. The smaller ones have william hill shops and we stayed at the golden nugget during SBR vegas bash and they have max limits of about 1,000 - 1,500. 500 on 1h or totals, thats what they capped me off at.
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                                                • SportsSharingun
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 08-26-18
                                                  • 28

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by MikeTizzy
                                                  take it from me, like JJ baldy says, its Pinnacle, Bookmaker, Heritage, then i would say Bovada recently upgraded their business model, Bovada super solid all around now, with easy bitcoin play too. I currently have legend tier 3 account there, the next and last rewards level is Hall of Fame reward tier. 5dimes is best for recreational, along with BetUS
                                                  I didn't know Bovada allowed winning players. I swore it specifically stated on their site that they don't allow anyone deemed a pro.

                                                  I'll also keep that stuff in mind for vegas
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                                                  • Natty68
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 05-11-14
                                                    • 550

                                                    #26
                                                    The dollar amounts and level of volume Bookmaker takes on a daily basis would astound you. NEVER an issue getting paid I'm aware of. Some of my friends put thousands of dollars in play on a typical NFL weekend and they take it without blinking.
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                                                    • SportsSharingun
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 08-26-18
                                                      • 28

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Natty68
                                                      The dollar amounts and level of volume Bookmaker takes on a daily basis would astound you. NEVER an issue getting paid I'm aware of. Some of my friends put thousands of dollars in play on a typical NFL weekend and they take it without blinking.
                                                      Like what, hundreds of millions? Do sites like that actually need pro-bettors to sharpen the line so as to guarantee profits?
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                                                      • danshan11
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 07-08-17
                                                        • 4101

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by danwinkler
                                                        Not many books can accommodate bigger bettors who win long term. But there are few. Here is a good list of the best ones.
                                                        Also not that that any book that can't handle arb players is not a good because it means they don't have enough volume. Good book that caters to long term winners will have no problem with arb players.

                                                        Oh now I know why you got mad, that is your site or referrals or something, that site is tout garbage this might be the second funniest thing I read on there even funnier than the lack of understanding of bet value

                                                        "Even though the above links are affiliate partner links, we do not get anything from these books since all our clients are profitable bettors. The reason we have the affiliate partnership with these books is because these books welcome winning bettors to sharpen their lines. By being an affiliate, we will have a general idea of the volume from our clients and we can track the line moves to further improve our handicapping efficiency. Above all, the biggest advantage of using our links to join these books is that if there is ever a dispute with these books, we as affiliate partners can represent you and help you solve the issue. These are the only books that we can assure you of safety and continued winning without any interruption."

                                                        LMAO FAF
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                                                        • jbayko
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 12-29-16
                                                          • 310

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by danshan11
                                                          Oh now I know why you got mad, that is your site or referrals or something, that site is tout garbage this might be the second funniest thing I read on there even funnier than the lack of understanding of bet value

                                                          "Even though the above links are affiliate partner links, we do not get anything from these books since all our clients are profitable bettors. The reason we have the affiliate partnership with these books is because these books welcome winning bettors to sharpen their lines. By being an affiliate, we will have a general idea of the volume from our clients and we can track the line moves to further improve our handicapping efficiency. Above all, the biggest advantage of using our links to join these books is that if there is ever a dispute with these books, we as affiliate partners can represent you and help you solve the issue. These are the only books that we can assure you of safety and continued winning without any interruption."

                                                          LMAO FAF
                                                          That’s is hilarious. Meanwhile, we know that the tour industry is the exact opposite of that - picks you’d be better off flipping a coin for and affiliate links bringing in all the profits.
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                                                          • Alfa1234
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-19-15
                                                            • 2722

                                                            #30
                                                            Lots of "Pinnacle doesn't limit" in this thread. They do actually. If they identify you as a sharp they will drop your limits to 50 or 70% of their "normal" limits.
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                                                            • SportsSharingun
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 08-26-18
                                                              • 28

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Alfa1234
                                                              Lots of "Pinnacle doesn't limit" in this thread. They do actually. If they identify you as a sharp they will drop your limits to 50 or 70% of their "normal" limits.
                                                              I'm assuming those limits are still quite large?

                                                              I don't mind being limited as long as I can make decently sized bets.
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