Why does Pinnacle put extra vig on parlays?

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  • Gaze73
    SBR MVP
    • 01-27-14
    • 3291

    #1
    Why does Pinnacle put extra vig on parlays?
    I can think of two reasons. 1. They think mugs don't care about a few % lower payout even though it's a blatant thievery. Though that doesn't make much sense because mugs don't play at pinnacle anyway. 2. They were losing money to parlay sharks without that extra juice. Now I'm gonna have to make another account just so I can make parlays with a bookie that's not a parlay thief.
  • Optional
    Administrator
    • 06-10-10
    • 61407

    #2
    From their point of view parlays are regular juice and singles are at reduced juice. Not extra for the parlay.

    It's probably to do with sharps using parlays as a way to increase their max bet there, more than hoping for mugs.
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    • Gaze73
      SBR MVP
      • 01-27-14
      • 3291

      #3
      As far as I know you can do max bet multiple times, you just get lesser odds each time. The parlays also seem to put much bigger vig on the favs. E.g They had Benfica at 1.47 but only 1.43 on a parlay, that's a pretty big difference when their true odds are 1.4.
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      • Optional
        Administrator
        • 06-10-10
        • 61407

        #4
        If nothing else, it suggests parlays are not an obvious mugs bet as commonly believed.
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        • KVB
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 05-29-14
          • 74817

          #5
          Originally posted by Optional
          If nothing else, it suggests parlays are not an obvious mugs bet as commonly believed.

          Of course they aren't. Parlays paying the right odds are a dangerous weapon in a bettor's arsenal. I used to bet dozens of two picks a day.

          Anytime you can decrease your risk and increase your reward it's a good idea. Over time the results won't be too bad and in line with your expectation. The bigger the parlay, the more losses between big wins, just volatility.

          Unfortunately, the bigger the parlay, the higher the chance that the bettor is getting shorted on his payout.

          You should be getting +265 for at two pick, but +260 is acceptable when you have no choice.

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          • Barrakuda
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 02-28-18
            • 786

            #6
            Originally posted by KVB
            Of course they aren't. Parlays paying the right odds are a dangerous weapon in a bettor's arsenal. I used to bet dozens of two picks a day.

            Anytime you can decrease your risk and increase your reward it's a good idea. Over time the results won't be too bad and in line with your expectation. The bigger the parlay, the more losses between big wins, just volatility.

            Unfortunately, the bigger the parlay, the higher the chance that the bettor is getting shorted on his payout.

            You should be getting +265 for at two pick, but +260 is acceptable when you have no choice.

            How does a parlay "decrease risk?"
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            • KVB
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 05-29-14
              • 74817

              #7
              Originally posted by Barrakuda
              How does a parlay "decrease risk?"
              Assuming your bet amounts are the same, and for the most part they should be, instead of risking two bets (one on each game) you are only risking one bet on the parlay.

              That's half the risk and you are still betting both games.

              One mistake bettors make is that they risk less on the parlay than they do on single games. Always risk the same unit, even on the parlay.
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              • Gaze73
                SBR MVP
                • 01-27-14
                • 3291

                #8
                Originally posted by KVB
                Assuming your bet amounts are the same, and for the most part they should be, instead of risking two bets (one on each game) you are only risking one bet on the parlay.

                That's half the risk and you are still betting both games.

                One mistake bettors make is that they risk less on the parlay than they do on single games. Always risk the same unit, even on the parlay.
                Depends on the odds. Would you risk the same $100 on a -330 fav and a +120 parlay having 3 such favs? The fav has roughly 75% chance to win and the parlay only 42%. But yeah, parlay can minimize risks. There's a difference between risk 990 to win 300 and risk 300 to win 360. I've seen people lose all 3 legs of a "dead cert" parlay many times.
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                • littlekona
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-19-15
                  • 5242

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Optional
                  From their point of view parlays are regular juice and singles are at reduced juice. Not extra for the parlay.

                  It's probably to do with sharps using parlays as a way to increase their max bet there, more than hoping for mugs.
                  That is a good point...heritage is same way
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