Wager dispute w/BetOnline over definition of "hitting the board"

**Optional** · 06-20-18, 02:07 PM

Are you sure it wasn't an "Across The Board" ATB bet?

Can you post the betslip?

**michael777** · 06-20-18, 02:14 PM

Hitting the board means 1,2,or 3rd,sorry,but that is the definition,i have bet horses every day since 1972

**BigOrange** · 06-20-18, 02:14 PM

Across the Board is Win, Place, and Show only. It sounds like that is how they are grading it.

**BigOrange** · 06-20-18, 02:15 PM

Hitting the board is not even listed in Horse terms here:

Horse Racing Terminology

https://www.anddownthestretchtheycome.com/pages/horse-racing-terminology

Across the board: A bet on one horse to win, place, and show. Allowance or Allowance Race: A non-claiming event in which the racing secretary conditions weight allowances based on previous purse...

**michael777** · 06-20-18, 02:18 PM

online searches show hitting the board means 1,2,3,or fourth,that is 100% WRONG!! It means 1,2,or third,and I HATE BETONLINE,but they are right on this

**HedgeHog** · 06-20-18, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by ipaorange

On 6/9/18 I made a horse prop bet with BetOnline betting that Vino Rosso will "hit the board". He came in 4th place. The bet was graded as a loss because they define "hitting the board" as placing 1st, 2nd or 3rd. However every online search I do says that "hitting the board" means placing 1st, 2nd, 3rd AND 4th. I made an inquiry and got an email with their definition. When I responded to that email saying that I did multiple online searches for the definition and they all include 4th place and asked why they define it differently than everyone else I got no response. I am not a big horse better so I had to turn to the internet for help. I even took a screenshot of a page of a horse betting glossary and sent it to them in the email along with the link for the site. Can a sportsbook define a betting term differently? Or am I mistaken? I did several searches on different sites and got the same results. It's only a $500 bet but still if I won I want to get paid for it.

I made the same bet and lost. If you clicked the icon associated with the bet, it did spell out that Vino Rosso had to finish in the top three. Also "the board" has always meant top three to me when betting horses. For example, go to the clerk at the track and tell him you want $2 accross the board on a horse, and you'll end up making a $6 bet ($2 win, $2 place and $2 show).

**Optional** · 06-20-18, 03:20 PM

Thanks for that info Hedgehog

**acquavallo** · 06-21-18, 03:47 AM

In Europe, in large fields, hit the board can mean up to fourth or even fifth-- look up Betfair for example-- but this is an exception. As well, if the field is small, it means first and second only.
But this is more an exception.
On this side of the pond, BOL included, it means 1-2-3.

**ipaorange** · 06-21-18, 04:18 PM

Anywhere that I can find the term from an online search like in a few different horse betting glossary's it defines hitting the board as:
Hit the Board - Horses that 'hit the board' are those whose numbers appear on the tote board asfirst, second, third or fourth.
Here are the links for 2 of them:

http://www.teamvalor.com/Library/Glossary.pdf

Horse Racing Glossary G to P

http://www.ildado.com/horse_racing_glossary02.html

Glossary of terms, terminology.

But I am new to horse betting so that's why I am asking on here. I don't understand why it says this on so many places though. Is this a rule that could have changed? Or means something different? Am I reading it wrong?

**ipaorange** · 06-21-18, 04:33 PM

Here are several links to horse betting glossary's that ALL define "hitting the board" as:

Hit the Board - Horses that 'hit the board' are those whose numbers appear on the tote board as first, second, third or fourth.
Hit the Board - Horses that 'hit the board' are those whose numbers appear on the tote board asfirst, second, third or fourth.Hit the board: Featuring on the winner’s board by finishing in the top four places.
http://www.ildado.com/horse_racing_glossary02.html

http://www.teamvalor.com/Library/Glossary.pdf

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https://betoclock.com/horse-racing-slang-definitions/

I just don't understand why this is defined differently on these sites. I looked at a lot of glossary's online and these are the only ones that actually included this term.

**BigOrange** · 06-21-18, 04:37 PM

IPA did you not read the post by Hedgehog? He made the same bet as you and the bet was spelled out as the horse had to finish 1st, 2nd, or 3rd. Here it is again:

I made the same bet and lost. If you clicked the icon associated with the bet, it did spell out that Vino Rosso had to finish in the top three. Also "the board" has always meant top three to me when betting horses. For example, go to the clerk at the track and tell him you want $2 accross the board on a horse, and you'll end up making a $6 bet ($2 win, $2 place and $2 show).

**5918mike** · 06-21-18, 05:28 PM

It looks like it can vary, no surprise. The key is what they have as a documented definition, your arguments about what others call it is worthless, don't bother, it doesn't matter.

**michlafon15** · 06-21-18, 05:57 PM

How do you bet a horse prop and not kno this

**littlekona** · 06-21-18, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by ipaorange

Here are several links to horse betting glossary's that ALL define "hitting the board" as:

Hit the Board - Horses that 'hit the board' are those whose numbers appear on the tote board as first, second, third or fourth.
Hit the Board - Horses that 'hit the board' are those whose numbers appear on the tote board asfirst, second, third or fourth.Hit the board: Featuring on the winner’s board by finishing in the top four places.
http://www.ildado.com/horse_racing_glossary02.html

http://www.teamvalor.com/Library/Glossary.pdf

parking – Just another WordPress site

https://betoclock.com/horse-racing-slang-definitions/

I just don't understand why this is defined differently on these sites. I looked at a lot of glossary's online and these are the only ones that actually included this term.

ive been doing offshore and ADW and USA pari mutal for over 25 years...In USA hitting the board means top 3....Now there are some exceptions one is UK tracks and such in non stake events if the runner is in top four positions with fields over 16 runners it is hitting the board BUT in fields of 7 or less only the top two places are considered hitting the board....That wager is a loss unless it is specifically said top 4 in bet description...even if it was bet at betfair family platform ots a loss as it was a stakes event so only top 3 pay unless you specifically went down to top 4 which they did offer..Tough lesson but a correct one by BOL

**ipaorange** · 06-22-18, 01:14 PM

Thank You

Thank you all for responding to my post. I don't bet on horses very often so I value the experience of others. Looks like it was definitely a loss. No big deal.

**ipaorange** · 06-22-18, 01:19 PM

BigOrange yes I did see the reply and I accept my loss I am just confused as to why so many glossary's define it as top 4 when all of you experienced betters say top 3. That's all.

**Optional** · 06-22-18, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by ipaorange

BigOrange yes I did see the reply and I accept my loss I am just confused as to why so many glossary's define it as top 4 when all of you experienced betters say top 3. That's all.

It sounds like in the UK display boards at race courses showed first 4 places back in the day, and the google answers are based on that.

USA tends to do things it's own way in many areas.

**semibluff** · 06-22-18, 03:18 PM

Hit the board is not a term i've seen in the UK and i've been in and around the gambling industry for over 30 years. In the UK we have Each-Way, (E/W), betting on horse races. An each way bet is made up of 2 parts - a win bet and a place/show bet. With 4 or fewer runners the place/show terms are 'win only' at full odds. On races with 5-7 runners the terms are 1st or 2nd at 1/4 the odds for a win, (so if the horse was +700 for the win you get +700 on the win part of the bet and +175 on the E/W part of the bet). On races with 8 or more runners the E/W terms are 1/5 the odds for finishing in the 1st 3. The exception to this is on races with 12 or more runners that are in Handicap races. These are races where horses have to carry a minimum amount of weight based on the horse's grading in pounds. (EG: A horse graded 110 will have to carry a minimum weight of 110 pounds). The E/W terms on handicap races with 12-15 runners are 1/4 the odds on the 1st 3. The E/W terms on handicap races with 16 or more runners are 1/4 the odds on the 1st 4. In the UK there is win betting and E/W betting but no show/place only betting.