Terrible Software
Horrific odds with no options to bet -110 either way, all juiced lines
Tell me why???
littlekona
SBR Hall of Famer
11-19-15
5242
#2
#1 if you wager on horses IE UK racing and are in states where betfair is not available they offer product and yes sometimes there is value esp against the USA pari mutal pools..
#2 they allow parlays on live events and have good selection of live odds and parlay-able prices...sure the odds are lower in most cases but if you wanna stack few parlays on soccer with lets say under 5.5 goals they do offer
3# they allow mix and match parlays between horses and sports
4# they grade fast and pay out instant
5# the wagering platform is very simple
They do have there flaws but I have used them for a while and am satisfied...Its good to have them as secondary option along with primary books like Heritage and Nitrogen
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388179
#3
Do you bet sides American sports?
The concept is tremendous
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littlekona
SBR Hall of Famer
11-19-15
5242
#4
Not often ESP pre match rarely...but sometimes I do on live lines as there is value sometimes esp on underdogs and thee live lines are open way more then any site I have seen like nitrogen or many fiat books
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DroopyDog
SBR MVP
11-03-16
1255
#5
You can find nice golf odds there.
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raiders72001
Senior Member
08-10-05
11116
#6
I can see littlekona's points on horse racing but they add so much more take to the Betfair line that there should be an investigation for price gouging.
-120 and -125 to -113 and -119. Still horrible. Do they have a massive bonus or something? Skybook has huge bonuses and their juice still isn't that bad...
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raiders72001
Senior Member
08-10-05
11116
#17
Originally posted by ace7550
-120 and -125 to -113 and -119. Still horrible. Do they have a massive bonus or something? Skybook has huge bonuses and their juice still isn't that bad...
No. I guess they get enough business that they can get away with it.
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Foxx
SBR Hall of Famer
05-25-11
5831
#18
So they have US racing? I don't see anything up but it's late. What price do they pay? Track payoff or something tied to Betfair?
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388179
#19
I saw Aqueduct the other day but it popped up before race started
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littlekona
SBR Hall of Famer
11-19-15
5242
#20
Originally posted by Foxx
So they have US racing? I don't see anything up but it's late. What price do they pay? Track payoff or something tied to Betfair?
Yes have US but its kinda strange as they dont post races in advance like they do UK races. They will add to betting menu when post times near and the tracks vary...They offer handfull of tracks Penn National, Aqueduct , Tampa bay, turf paradise sunland park, meadowlands, woodbine and some others...I like the fixed odds esp at smaller handle tracks when you can drop a good size wager early before the price at track goes down...Ive gotten even money + on many 2/5 shots just by knowing to bet early...Also can get decent value on non favs but you have to watch and know betting trends at track...
If you can bet through betfair though you are better off thats the best but not viable where I am....
Also if you like crazy over unders like under 5.5 in soccer they offer the odds are bad most time under 1.1 but you can parlay and build bankrolls.....I also like the live wagering esp in soccer that you can parlay..also most of there live lines on US sports or INT soccer are available all game not just on breaks and certain spots like most books...
They are good book to have...Pay fast and reliable and good CS....just are not best odds....Nitrogen Heritage and Looselines are my primary books in that order
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388179
#21
so they pay right after event is official?
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littlekona
SBR Hall of Famer
11-19-15
5242
#22
Originally posted by jjgold
so they pay right after event is official?
Yes they are the fastest payer of all btc books...graded and sent plus they grade fast and even grade during games if you win...I do crazy over unders sometimes on soccer over 1.5 goals and once 2 goals are scored it's graded winner and paid even before match is done...instant pay right to ure wallet no asking
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388179
#23
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Living The Dream
SBR MVP
12-23-09
4521
#24
I don't understand anyone who talks about how directbet not being a great place to play, then in the next breath talk about how betonline is even with the payouts taking days, or deposits being held for 30 days..
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388179
#25
Dreamer betonline lines are outstanding on ML's American Sports
Direcbet is just too juiced not really geared for American Sports
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Living The Dream
SBR MVP
12-23-09
4521
#26
Sometimes paying the juice is worth it to actually get paid.. keeping your deposit hostage is the biggest gimmick out there... People fall for it, so great business plan... The sheep will follow to slaughter in every way possible... It's hilarious
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388179
#27
good post dreamer
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raiders72001
Senior Member
08-10-05
11116
#28
Originally posted by Living The Dream
Sometimes paying the juice is worth it to actually get paid.. keeping your deposit hostage is the biggest gimmick out there... People fall for it, so great business plan... The sheep will follow to slaughter in every way possible... It's hilarious
Withdrawals are normally within 10 minutes at Nitrogen. You will get paid and they have reduced juice.
It's impossible to overcome the juice at DB and there's a chance of being stiffed or not having a bet accepted/rejected until mid-game.
Top books are not going to use DB's model. If there is any type of problem with the blockchain, your wallet, DB's wallet or double spend, you can get stiffed or not know whether you have a bet until the game ends.
Even though DB accepted a bet, confirmed it on the bet slip and the money was in their wallet, they manually canceled a 3 team parlay after 2 legs won and the 3rd was winning because of a problem with an input. The player was free rolled.
Withdrawals are normally within 10 minutes at Nitrogen. You will get paid and they have reduced juice.
It's impossible to overcome the juice at DB and there's a chance of being stiffed or not having a bet accepted/rejected until mid-game.
Top books are not going to use DB's model. If there is any type of problem with the blockchain, your wallet, DB's wallet or double spend, you can get stiffed or not know whether you have a bet until the game ends.
It's happened twice to me with a wallet issue and bet being confirmed yet they never received the btc so wager was canceled after marked winner and payout settlement In process..both times with blockchain wallet but it was a wallet issue...so I can't blame them and I did get the wager amount credit back...one thing that prevents this is using there wallet which guarantees all wagers will be funded...I've used it few times and it's not bad and secure
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raiders72001
Senior Member
08-10-05
11116
#31
This happened 3 days ago. They confiscated the players money accusing him of an attempted double spend without proof. For the amount bet and won, approximately $65, it doesn't make sense for this player to try a double spend.
DB has confiscated much more in the past claiming double spend attempt. Not only did they confiscate winnings, but the deposit as well.
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raiders72001
Senior Member
08-10-05
11116
#32
The player paid a 43 cent fee on a live wagering event. DB refunded the bet after the game won claiming that the money never hit their wallet.
Most likely there was some type of problem with DB's wallet since it hit the blockchain. This is a case where there is the possibility of a free roll since the bet wasn't confirmed/rejected until the game went final.
I've never had an issue with DB but I only use them for soccer. Being from U.S. and wanting to use bitcoin only, I find DB and Cloudbet very handy and can get at least 1 bitcoin bet an any soccer match at DB. Cloudbet sometimes has very low limits on certain matches.
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raiders72001
Senior Member
08-10-05
11116
#35
A problem today at DB. They confiscated .16 BTC. Unpaid balance normally means they are accusing someone of a double spend attempt without proof.
Message : A Payout of 0.16313601 BTC used to cover unpaid bets 12QAa5LVJcYFKMkuoWdXnrmto7PygsjqPF and 1Hf12R68FEq3VRQrpWCiaU6xv6byL1rrS2