Do any of the S-Books at the top of the screen offer free non-bitcoin payouts?

**blowjoe2020** · 01-20-17, 01:54 AM

Well, it does look like Heritage offers one free payout per 30 days on TUES & WEDS with a $300 max on the M-grm.

LOL I guess the industry is trying to move to bitcoin!

**Alfa1234** · 01-20-17, 04:19 AM

Pinnacle payouts are free if you rolled over your deposit 3x.

The Greek payouts are free is you placed bets for 4 consecutive weeks prior to the payout request.

Not sure about the others as I use bitcoin with those.

**Optional** · 01-20-17, 07:58 AM

Plenty of books offer at least one free or discounted payout per month.

But if you want to use P2P services then it simply costs a lot and it's your personal choice to pay those fees if you really want to go that way.

Saying 'I dont trust bitcoin' is just a silly excuse. The world isnt going to go backward and make P2P payments easy again. No use fighting it. Accept the restrictions or jump on the bitcoin bandwagon are the only choices really.

**blowjoe2020** · 01-20-17, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Plenty of books offer at least one free or discounted payout per month.

But if you want to use P2P services then it simply costs a lot and it's your personal choice to pay those fees if you really want to go that way.

Saying 'I dont trust bitcoin' is just a silly excuse. The world isnt going to go backward and make P2P payments easy again. No use fighting it. Accept the restrictions or jump on the bitcoin bandwagon are the only choices really.

LOL Tell that to these people who got $450 million bitcoin stolen. Is there really a rebuttal to my statement of

"I don't trust bitcoin" after you read this? Is it a "Silly excuse" by me to not trust bitcoin when somebody

stole $450 million worth of bitcoin? LOL Come on man. Get serious. I think anybody who uses bitcoin after

seeing $450 million get stolen is an idiot!

"Mt. Gox, which was once the world's largest exchange for the decentralized virtual currency, filed for bankruptcy protection in February 2014, when it was reported that 850,000 bitcoins, worth $450 million at the time, had disappeared or been stolen by hackers. Mt. Gox said it also lost $27 million in cash. May 18, 2016"

**Optional** · 01-20-17, 04:16 PM

I think the proof is in the pudding Joe.

Sportsbook users are finding it reliable for money transfers and I think you will find the hundreds using it among SBR posters would tell you no one is worried about the issues you imagine are there.

Some Japanese company that lost a bunch of money 5 years ago isn't relevant now. The bitcoin industry has matured a loooong way since then and even if it hadn't, if you are not holding bitcoin an exchange being hacked or the price of bitcoin is largely irrelevant to us as bettors.

**blowjoe2020** · 01-20-17, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by Optional

I think the proof is in the pudding Joe.

Sportsbook users are finding it reliable for money transfers and I think you will find the hundreds using it among SBR posters would tell you no one is worried about the issues you imagine are there.

Some Japanese company that lost a bunch of money 5 years ago isn't relevant now. The bitcoin industry has matured a loooong way since then and even if it hadn't, if you are not holding bitcoin an exchange being hacked or the price of bitcoin is largely irrelevant to us as bettors.

Yes, if you get in quick and get out quick with bitcoin it is pretty safe. And bitcoin is where the industry is going. I tried to buy bitcoin at coinbase on JAN 1st and I verified my bank account, then they bought the bitcoin and told me it was on hold for 10 days! So I sit there and watch bitcoin lose 15% of its value while I can't even sell it or send it in to a S-book! LOL
My money went from $975 to $800 BEFORE I could even touch it! Then I thought it was so stupid that I sold it when I finally got "access" to it, and now I'm down almost $200 and never even placed a bet! LOL Maybe no one is worried about that either, but I am!

**blowjoe2020** · 01-20-17, 04:31 PM

That's why I had to use M-grm to play on JAN 1st. Nobody on here told me that the FIRST time you use bitcoin is nowhere near "Instant" and the C-card sites won't let you buy but about $50 worth either. Yes bitcoin is "instant" but only AFTER you wait 10 days for your first time!! LOL I didn't want to bet 10 days later!

**Optional** · 01-20-17, 04:36 PM

That was a bad time for a first experience.

As long as you are rolling with it you may as well stick with it now. There's a 99% chance you will be just as comfortable with it as any other money transfer system once you've used it a few times.

You should look at the Bitpay debit card for cashing out. Cheaper than Coinbase and no delays between sending and it being converted to dollars.

**blowjoe2020** · 01-20-17, 04:37 PM

LOL Yeah, now Bitcoin is back up to $900! I got it right in the ass.

**evo34** · 01-21-17, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by Optional

I think the proof is in the pudding Joe.

Sportsbook users are finding it reliable for money transfers and I think you will find the hundreds using it among SBR posters would tell you no one is worried about the issues you imagine are there.

Some Japanese company that lost a bunch of money 5 years ago isn't relevant now. The bitcoin industry has matured a loooong way since then and even if it hadn't, if you are not holding bitcoin an exchange being hacked or the price of bitcoin is largely irrelevant to us as bettors.

The Biggest Bitcoin Hacks and Thefts of All Time

https://hacked.com/biggest-bitcoin-hacks-thefts-time/

The story of bitcoin’s most significant hacks and thefts is the story of bitcoin itself. From its early days and its first hack to the biggest theft of all time, bitcoin’s utopian promises often turned into a dystopian reality where scammers, thieves, unaccountable and often amateur exchanges, some even fully anonymous, proliferated in a wild […]

**Optional** · 01-21-17, 06:38 AM

Originally posted by evo34

https://hacked.com/biggest-bitcoin-hacks-thefts-time/

That helps show what I say.

Bitcoin is not affected even by all those companies losing their ass.

It's not relevant to us as money transfer users as we are not holding money at one of those exchanges.

And honestly, even if you are an investor, why leave your money sitting in an exchange anyway? Store it in an offline paper wallet and none of this hacking stuff is relevant either.

**BrickJames** · 01-21-17, 07:47 AM

Originally posted by Optional

That helps show what I say.

Bitcoin is not affected even by all those companies losing their ass.

It's not relevant to us as money transfer users as we are not holding money at one of those exchanges.

And honestly, even if you are an investor, why leave your money sitting in an exchange anyway? Store it in an offline paper wallet and none of this hacking stuff is relevant either.

Optional you are a smart guy.

Tell me more about storing Bitcoin offline please. I always use the blockchain wallet