Betphoenix, book transfers??

**HedgeHog** · 05-08-09, 08:12 AM

Matchbook for sure, and I think that's the only one currently.

**The Judge** · 05-08-09, 01:40 PM

We are pleased to announce that BetFirstClass and BetPhoenix have an agreement in place to process book-to-book transfers for our mutual customers.

There will be a nominal charge of $20 which will be assessed by the book that the funds are being transferred from and a 2 time rollover of the amount transferred to the receiving book will be required prior to withdrawal. Minimum amout that can be transferred is $100.

If the players wants to claim any deposit bonus that the receiving may offer, the standard 6 time rollover requirement will apply.

Thanks to Richard and the rest of the guys at BetPhoenix for their cooperation in getting this arrangement in place. If anyone has any questions, you can ask them in this thread.

**kmarinouofm** · 05-08-09, 02:07 PM

question# 1 Who the Hell is Bet First Class
question #2 So no transfers to Bodog?
question # 3 Where is their rep on SBR.. that guy is usually on top of everything..

**kmarinouofm** · 05-08-09, 02:12 PM

Holy Crap thanks SBR.. looks like BetFirstClass is a D book.. and after taking a look at the website it looks like crap... I am kinda worried that the only book BetPhoenix does Book to book transfers with is D book...

**RJbetphoenix** · 05-08-09, 02:38 PM

A rated Matchbook as well. BFC and us share some common clients. We are simply trying to facilitate ease of use in consideration for those clients from both ends. These types of things should be seen as a positive for players.

**playz** · 05-08-09, 03:25 PM

I would never want to see a book transferring to a low quality book. It shows that they do not care about safety of funds and it puts both books at risk.

**Peep** · 05-08-09, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by playz

I would never want to see a book transferring to a low quality book. It shows that they do not care about safety of funds and it puts both books at risk.

Geezs.

Shouldn't the player have the right to make his own assessment of the "safety of his funds"? Be fcked if I want to have some CR bookie making that assessment for me......

**kmarinouofm** · 05-08-09, 03:56 PM

RJ up should look into opening relationships with the Greek and Bodog.. it would at least make me really happy.

**RJbetphoenix** · 05-08-09, 04:12 PM

I am looking at any option that can make it easier for players to move funds. The decision on where to move them is always a players choice. BFC and ourselves share a few venues and do have some common clients who have requested this option. We are simply attempting to facilitate that for them.

**katstale** · 05-08-09, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by RJbetphoenix

A rated Matchbook as well. BFC and us share some common clients. We are simply trying to facilitate ease of use in consideration for those clients from both ends. These types of things should be seen as a positive for players.

And for all the REAL players they are seen exactly like that. Thanks for the continual upgrades. Now if the ewallet liquidity issues were finally resolved, you guys would be A all over.

**kmarinouofm** · 05-08-09, 04:17 PM

ok RJ i am a player at BetPhoenix.. can you have my funds moved to Bodog??

**RJbetphoenix** · 05-08-09, 04:27 PM

That only depends on their willingness to engage in that with us. I am open for that at any time.

**RickySteve** · 05-08-09, 04:38 PM

Bodog has never had a transfer relationship with any book.

**playz** · 05-08-09, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by Peep

Geezs.

Shouldn't the player have the right to make his own assessment of the "safety of his funds"? Be fcked if I want to have some CR bookie making that assessment for me......

You have the right but if a top rated book decides to transfer to a D book and the funds get confiscated some how that looks bad for the top rated book. And there is also greater risk for the player and the top rated book. Why do think matchbook only does transfers with top rated books?

**Peep** · 05-08-09, 05:19 PM

Well, I don't know who matchbook does transfers with but I do know that one of the books that they do transfers with is Bet First Class. They transferred $3500 to my Matchbook account a few months ago.

**RJbetphoenix** · 05-08-09, 06:47 PM

Playz,

I think BFC transfers with Pinny as well as Match, and the references all came back positive and through the appropriate advocates. You will not need to worry.

**BigDaddy** · 05-08-09, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by Peep

Well, I don't know who matchbook does transfers with but I do know that one of the books that they do transfers with is Bet First Class. They transferred $3500 to my Matchbook account a few months ago.

peep i'm pretty sure that was not a book to book but an account to account payment

BFC has a personal account at matchbook most likely and just did the transaction that way

that is a big difference if that is the case concerning matchbook.

i'm not 100% sure but im pretty sure that is the case

please judge correct me if i'm wrong?

**Peep** · 05-08-09, 07:35 PM

All I know is that the money ended up in my personal account at Matchbook, all $3500. What methods were used, I really don't know or care. They got 'er done.

For what it is worth, they say they now offer book to book with Pinnacle as well for non-USA accounts. Again, how this works, I don't know. And wouldn't care, as long as the transfer is done.

**BigDaddy** · 05-08-09, 08:09 PM

glad you were paid peep they have paid everyone that i know of so far fast. but thats not my point i was just backing up what playz said as that is important.

maybe they should contact matchbook and have them added to the cashier portion of the website for interbook transfers as i still don't see them listed.

**The Judge** · 05-08-09, 09:17 PM

The input from Peep, Richard and even Big Daddy is certainly appreciated. How this agreement between BetPhoenix and BetFirstClass can in any way be perceived to be a negative thing for players is beyond me.

Regarding Playz' comments about BFC being a "low quality book", I am unaware of a single player complaint about our shop despite the tremendous scrutiny that we have received here at SBR and elsewhere. If someone has information to the contrary, I encourage them to correct me and make us aware of this.

Bottom line is that to date, BFC has taken all punches thrown our way and our detractors have proven to be wrong in their assumptions about how we conduct our business.

I think an important point that needs to be made is that the SBR management is tremendously cautious with their initial rating of any new post up shop who enters the arena. I respect and admire this policy and am content with allowing our past and future actions to determine how BFC is rated moving forward. ...

**kmarinouofm** · 05-09-09, 12:33 AM

i agree the Judge.. its tough.. but time will tell.. keep it up and SBR will notice.. drop the ball... and everyone will know..

RJPHoenix since you are open to convo's like you said.. i guess are you willing to engage with The Greek or Bodog.. or am i expected to contact those books myself??

**TomG** · 05-09-09, 02:29 PM

FWIW and FYI I completed a successful book-to-book transfer from Matchbook to BetPhoenix today.

**Santo** · 05-09-09, 02:51 PM

Bodog have never entered a relationship, and Greek only do it with very select books, so I suspect you'll have no luck with either, and it's not really a comment on BFC other than longevity.

**kmarinouofm** · 05-10-09, 01:14 AM

i guess rjbetphoenix will get back to me..