Is Fairlay Legit?

[beardso3]

I came across this site called Fairlay, has anyone bet and cashed out on the site before? I was curious why it doesn't have any reviews on sbr and I cannot find much info on it doing a google search.

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I came across this site called Fairlay, has anyone bet and cashed out on the site before? I was curious why it doesn't have any reviews on sbr and I cannot find much info on it doing a google search.

Been a few posts about it. I think it's having trouble gaining traction as US players are not used to exchanges but not heard anything negative yet.

[yellowman]

Played there quite a bit over the past year or so, always been paid promptly. Their interface takes some getting used to, but worth the effort.

[bigdaddy1]

never even heard of them

[PharaohUB]

They are the best book going right now in my opinion. They have good odds, and live betting on pretty much everything. Fastest withdraws in the business. You hit withdraw and switch over to your wallet and the coins are there. I timed it around 5-10 seconds and this was for like a 5BTC withdraw. The site could use some work, but it's not that big of a deal once you get used to it. I have zero reason to use Nitrogen anymore.

[littlekona]

I heard good things about there horse race markets but could not understand the site so gave up before placing wager

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I heard good things about there horse race markets but could not understand the site so gave up before placing wager

I remember first starting out with Betfair and finding it confusing. Not so much usage but the strategy.

Half the battle is understanding that you dont have to just be the bettor, but can think and act like a book too.

[Theo_Goodman]

Fairlay is legit, just like the others said you have to get used to the interface.

[Dr. Fager]

Looking to give it a tickle. First impression is confusing. Short video explained the concept of bettor vs bettor as opposed to typical, bettor vs bookie. Would have liked to seen an explanation of the interface. Will have to spend a bit more time on there but looks appealing.

[evo34]

One interesting thing is that Pinnacle will move on action from certain Fairlay accounts. That is, if you place a bet at Fairlay (not necessarily a huge one), the Pinnacle line will move immediately (less than a second). As to why this is occurring, I'll let others speculate.

[rangerz2478]

One interesting thing is that Pinnacle will move on action from certain Fairlay accounts. That is, if you place a bet at Fairlay (not necessarily a huge one), the Pinnacle line will move immediately (less than a second). As to why this is occurring, I'll let others speculate.

Pretty sure it's the other way around.

[Hareeba!]

Pretty sure it's the other way around.

yeah, that's what tends to happen on exchanges such as Betfair and Matchbook

[evo34]

Pretty sure it's the other way around.

You really think I'm just watching lines as a passive observer? What I described is 100% accurate and repeatable.

[evo34]

yeah, that's what tends to happen on exchanges such as Betfair and Matchbook

Just realized you were responding to rangerz. Yes, obviously, everyone knows market makers at exchanges follow Pinnacle. What I am reporting is that the reverse is true -- at least for some Fairlay accounts.

[Hareeba!]

Just realized you were responding to rangerz. Yes, obviously, everyone knows market makers at exchanges follow Pinnacle. What I am reporting is that the reverse is true -- at least for some Fairlay accounts.

So, you're suggesting that somehow Pinnacle can monitor activity at Fairlay on individual accounts?

Wow! That's a most interesting issue regarding privacy.

[evo34]

So, you're suggesting that somehow Pinnacle can monitor activity at Fairlay on individual accounts?

Wow! That's a most interesting issue regarding privacy.

That's one possibility. The other ones (that I can think of):

1) The MMs are laying off action they deem sharp with Pinnacle, who in turn has the MMs' accounts flagged for auto-moves.
2) Pinnacle is seeding Fairlay, and/or owns some or all of Fairlay.

I'm not in the industry and so have no clue as to the likelihood of any of these, but clearly there is an automated connection (or series of connections that occur within seconds) from Fairlay to Pinnacle.

[luctens]

That's one possibility. The other ones (that I can think of):

1) The MMs are laying off action they deem sharp with Pinnacle, who in turn has the MMs' accounts flagged for auto-moves.
2) Pinnacle is seeding Fairlay, and/or owns some or all of Fairlay.

I'm not in the industry and so have no clue as to the likelihood of any of these, but clearly there is an automated connection (or series of connections that occur within seconds) from Fairlay to Pinnacle.

That's a complete fairy story you're conjuring up. Most probably your connection to Pinnacle isn't tip top so you're seeing moves on your screen on Fairlay before Pinnacle, whereas if you had top connections to both sites you would be seeing moves on Pinnacle before Fairlay.

The automated connection would be that Fairlay are going by Pinnacle odds, it is most certainly not the other way around, it would be the same as Matchbook who follow Pinnacle's odds.

One thing we can most definitely say is that Pinnacle, the best bookmaker that there has ever been, has absolutely no dealings whatsoever with some tinpot bitcoin betting exchange, so you really need to get back into the real world.

[raiders72001]

One interesting thing is that Pinnacle will move on action from certain Fairlay accounts. That is, if you place a bet at Fairlay (not necessarily a huge one), the Pinnacle line will move immediately (less than a second). As to why this is occurring, I'll let others speculate.

Fairlay hedges their position at times through Pinny that can cause a line move.

[raiders72001]

Nitrogen also clones Pinny but a bet at Nitrogen will never move the line at Pinny.

[evo34]

That's a complete fairy story you're conjuring up. Most probably your connection to Pinnacle isn't tip top so you're seeing moves on your screen on Fairlay before Pinnacle, whereas if you had top connections to both sites you would be seeing moves on Pinnacle before Fairlay.

The automated connection would be that Fairlay are going by Pinnacle odds, it is most certainly not the other way around, it would be the same as Matchbook who follow Pinnacle's odds.

One thing we can most definitely say is that Pinnacle, the best bookmaker that there has ever been, has absolutely no dealings whatsoever with some tinpot bitcoin betting exchange, so you really need to get back into the real world.

I'm not "seeing line moves on my screen," you douche. I'm lifting offers on Fairly and seeing a Pinnacle line move within one second -- 30 times without fail. What do I care if some Pinny fanboy believes it or not. I'm merely reporting information -- something you seem to lack altogether. I would suggest you test it for yourself, but then again you're not sharp enough for them to care about your action.

[evo34]

Fairlay hedges their position at times through Pinny that can cause a line move.

That's a "complete fairy story" according to our favorite thread-hijacker, luctens. But yes, this explanation, which I also brought up in my earlier post, is perfectly reasonable.