Is this shady by 5dimes?

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  • sjm5122
    SBR MVP
    • 09-22-08
    • 4213

    #1
    Is this shady by 5dimes?
    I placed a bet under the following description:

    Thu 5/5 12931 LIV / VIL either team 3 or more goals +1570 3:05PM 12932 Neither team scores 3 or more goals -3135

    Notice there is no mention of first half anywhere in that description, not when I entered the bet, and not when it was pending. However, it was then graded as a loss and showed up in my wagers page as:

    European Cup Soccer 12931 LIV / VIL either team 3 or more goals 1st Half +1570* vs Neither team scores 3 or more goals

    Why make it clear it was a first half bet in the description, only after the bet goes final???
  • sjm5122
    SBR MVP
    • 09-22-08
    • 4213

    #2
    If there was some inclination that this was a 1st Half bet and I missed it, I take some responsibilty, but it certainly was nowhere to be found in the bet description. And either way, changing a description after the bet has been graded is strange
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    • Courtesywipe
      SBR MVP
      • 09-02-11
      • 1623

      #3
      It wouldn't be +1500 for 3 or more goals for entire game, that's for sure.
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      • sjm5122
        SBR MVP
        • 09-22-08
        • 4213

        #4
        Originally posted by Courtesywipe
        It wouldn't be +1500 for 3 or more goals for entire game, that's for sure.
        Yeah, can agree I was a little suspicious. I kept re-reading the original description thinking it would say both teams score 3 or more, but it didn't. And regardless of that, to be changing a bet description only after the bet goes final isn't right.
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        • rangerz2478
          SBR MVP
          • 08-06-12
          • 1194

          #5
          Originally posted by Courtesywipe
          It wouldn't be +1500 for 3 or more goals for entire game, that's for sure.
          This, if so that's a really bad line.
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          • rangerz2478
            SBR MVP
            • 08-06-12
            • 1194

            #6
            But OP is right if they changed the wording after the fact, they shouldn't have.

            If it was me, I would have just no actioned the wager.
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            • EVfollower
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 05-05-14
              • 515

              #7
              Don't take shots at books. You know better. If it was a legit line it'd be canceled.
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              • sjm5122
                SBR MVP
                • 09-22-08
                • 4213

                #8
                They are claiming I am a liar, and that the betslip wording never changed. However I know that is false, because I copied the betslip wording when it was in my pending bets tab and sent it to a friend. Asked him if I am misreading this or what. I probably should have avoided it, was a bad line, asked 5dimes to no action it because there was fault on both ends. They called me a liar and told me to produce a screenshot. Pretty sad when they're my only online book and have been using them for years with no issue. Changing wording of a betslip only AFTER it has been graded is shady as hell.
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                • rangerz2478
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-06-12
                  • 1194

                  #9
                  Originally posted by sjm5122
                  They are claiming I am a liar, and that the betslip wording never changed. However I know that is false, because I copied the betslip wording when it was in my pending bets tab and sent it to a friend. Asked him if I am misreading this or what. I probably should have avoided it, was a bad line, asked 5dimes to no action it because there was fault on both ends. They called me a liar and told me to produce a screenshot. Pretty sad when they're my only online book and have been using them for years with no issue. Changing wording of a betslip only AFTER it has been graded is shady as hell.
                  By "they" do you mean Tony specifically?
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                  • EVfollower
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 05-05-14
                    • 515

                    #10
                    Originally posted by sjm5122
                    They are claiming I am a liar, and that the betslip wording never changed. However I know that is false, because I copied the betslip wording when it was in my pending bets tab and sent it to a friend. Asked him if I am misreading this or what. I probably should have avoided it, was a bad line, asked 5dimes to no action it because there was fault on both ends. They called me a liar and told me to produce a screenshot. Pretty sad when they're my only online book and have been using them for years with no issue. Changing wording of a betslip only AFTER it has been graded is shady as hell.
                    You took a shot at a book. You're the shady one. Hope Tony kicks you out and you realize the little tantrum you're throwing is only going to hurt you further in the long run. 5dimes and every other book watches the forum. Your next payout will take an extra couple days or maybe your options will be limited. Or you'll receive an email from Tony saying you're no longer welcome.

                    Either way, you knew that if it the line was right, it was a bad line. Thats like saying you tried to steal because there were no security cameras and don't feel its right you got caught. Suck it up and move on.
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                    • shaunovery
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 11-15-07
                      • 18143

                      #11
                      Agree wouldn't be 15-1 for 3 or more goals
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                      • sjm5122
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-22-08
                        • 4213

                        #12
                        Originally posted by EVfollower
                        You took a shot at a book. You're the shady one. Hope Tony kicks you out and you realize the little tantrum you're throwing is only going to hurt you further in the long run. 5dimes and every other book watches the forum. Your next payout will take an extra couple days or maybe your options will be limited. Or you'll receive an email from Tony saying you're no longer welcome.

                        Either way, you knew that if it the line was right, it was a bad line. Thats like saying you tried to steal because there were no security cameras and don't feel its right you got caught. Suck it up and move on.
                        Understand, and i should have just left it alone. I recognized it was suspicious and should have held off. Wasnt asking to be paid out, but why is a mistake on my side punished, but them changing wording at some point OK? Can't list a bet with no wording of 1st half then add it later. And no, wasnt dealing w tony. Whatever though, they claim they never changed the wording and I didnt screenshot. Their word against mine so it's a done deal
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                        • SBR Forum
                          Administrator
                          • 12-02-06
                          • 4559

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sjm5122
                          Understand, and i should have just left it alone. I recognized it was suspicious and should have held off. Wasnt asking to be paid out, but why is a mistake on my side punished, but them changing wording at some point OK? Can't list a bet with no wording of 1st half then add it later. And no, wasnt dealing w tony. Whatever though, they claim they never changed the wording and I didnt screenshot. Their word against mine so it's a done deal
                          We'll see if we can find a similar market to see if the verbiage is there. The odds would suggest the label should have been there, and possibly was but went unnoticed - without a screen capture of the bet as you wagered on it, there's not much to dispute, unfortunately.
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                          • rockmvp1209
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 09-27-13
                            • 755

                            #14
                            this dude wouldnt be complaining if he won
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